Who do you think Stevie is talking about here? - Page 2

DrummerDeanna · #16 10-07-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by no_spoken_word

I don't think it's about Prince. Does anyone have that Details article from 1994? She talks about her history with Prince; the recording of Stand Back and when she freaked out at the premiere of Purple Rain, then the incident with the cough syrup, but I think that's all there was between them.

Oh jeez, anybody have that article?

Alright - I gotta admit here - I don't know the details of Stevie and Prince....cough syrup episode??? Purple Rain Premire....someone enlighten me please...I'd love to know about those two things...

DeeGeMe · #17 10-07-2004, 05:24 PM

I gotta go with Walsh here. We know he was one of the three great loves of her life. We know that her breakup with him was painful and that she wrote a lot of songs about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know he's ugly as the day is long, but a lot here fits. He is strange. He is eccentric. He used to travel with a chainsaw, the better to trash hotel rooms with. The Eagles hired a bodyguard to protect him---from himself when they were on the road.

gldstwmn · #18 10-07-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeeGeMe

I gotta go with Walsh here. We know he was one of the three great loves of her life. We know that her breakup with him was painful and that she wrote a lot of songs about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know he's ugly as the day is long, but a lot here fits. He is strange. He is eccentric. He used to travel with a chainsaw, the better to trash hotel rooms with.

Oh God. I forgot about that. He was banned from The Brown Palace Hotel here for destroying antique stained glass windows and his room, I believe.

AliP · #19 10-07-2004, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Alright - I gotta admit here - I don't know the details of Stevie and Prince....cough syrup episode??? Purple Rain Premire....someone enlighten me please...I'd love to know about those two things...

I don't have the entire article, but here is the quote.

Details Magazine - August 1994
(a story about Prince)"I was sick, and Prince brought some cough syrup up to my hotel room. He was sweet-he walked around the room folding things, fluffing pillows, tidying up in general. Then he gave me a spoon of it himself. But when I asked for another spoonful he changed-he said, 'I didn't come all the way up here just to get you hooked on another substance!" Then he left.(Do you still see him?) No. I was at the premiere of Purple Rain, and in the scene where he slaps Apollonia I freaked and had to go sit in the bathroom. Afterward I went back to see him, and when he asked why I'd left, I had to tell him, 'When you popped Apollonia, it kinda popped my brain.' He looked at me like it just killed him. We've never spoken since. (sighs) It’s a shame, really ... we were alike in so many ways."

SuzeQuze · #20 10-07-2004, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Joe Walsh? Heck no. It's all about Prince. Walsh and Stevie didn't break up because he thought her life was too wild, she left him because he didn't give her enough attention.

I think it's a dead giveaway that it's about Prince when she says "one of the stranger male rock stars." She used to call Prince a friend, he more than likely thought she was wicked when it came to how she lived her life (drugs, booze, etc.), and that's why they stopped being friends (the cough syrup incident

). Yet she doesn't understand how he can be so judgemental about ehr life when he's just as wild as she is.

My gut feeling on this is that it is about Prince too. I see how Joe kind of fits but "stranger male rock stars today" makes me think of Prince since he is more modern. Plus we know that he criticized her lifestyle. I kind of doubt Joe ever questioned it. When would he have had the presence of mind to?

As an aside, I saw Joe when he was on a solo tour at some point in the early 90s at a small venue, I think it was the Palladium in RI. It was not his best performance. He drank champagne from the bottle the whole night. He was very scruffy looking with crazy white hair everywhere and messy, shapeless clothes. He looked like a bum. He also had a blow up doll up there! He was largely incoherrent. So when hell froze over, and I saw him a few years later with the Eagles, the cleanup seemed miraculous! It was awesome.

amber · #21 10-07-2004, 06:36 PM

Plus, doesn't she say somewhere in Love is Like a Rivah "he was just like me"?

strandinthewind · #22 10-07-2004, 06:40 PM

Sighs - you never wanna do any research

Love Is Like a River
- written by Stevie Nicks
- appears on Street Angel (1994)
Lyrics

You used to call me wicked
I used to call you friend
They say your life is wild
Compared to what...lifestyle
You must have many things...to remember
Cause nothing else in your life has really changed
Everything is almost...like it was before
And I don't want to do this...anymore

CHORUS:
When you lose your sight (Love is like a river)
And there's nothing to see (Love is like a river)
She was just like me (Love is like a river)
And suddenly...the day comes

Some call it love...
Some say they're above that
Well I believed in love...
I called it worth it

CHORUS:
Some call me...all the time (Love is like a river)
Well love is like a river (Love is like a river)
And when you lose your sight
And suddenly...the day comes

(SOLO)

Everything all around me is electric now
But I haven't burned a candle in a real long time
And only when your heart says it's over does it die
Well love is like a river...running...
Straight back to the sea

Some call it love...
Some say they're above it...(above that)
Well I believed in love...
I called it worth it...(worth it)...

CHORUS:
Well some call me all the time
(Love is like a river)
I say you can't stay home and give up the fight
(Love is like a river)
I think you're uptight lady...ooh, out of sight
That's just what I wanted to hear...ooh, out of sight
You know you can't stay home
In the middle of the night
Love is like a river
You can't say no in the middle of the night
(Love is like a river)
I think you're uptight lady...ooh, out of sight
And you can't say no in the middle of the night
Love is like a river
Well I think you're uptight lady...uptight lady...
Ooh, out of sight...out of sight, baby

(kudos to the Nicksfix where I cut it)

strandinthewind · #23 10-07-2004, 06:43 PM

I think the above lyrics are about a love affair. I cannot believe that she talks about not being able to say no in the middle night to just a friend - that line screams of sex to me. But, who can say for sure!!!!

amber · #24 10-07-2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Sighs - you never wanna do any research

She was just like me (Love is like a river)

This is what i was talking about. And i didn't research because it was an idle conversation in which i thought i already knew the lyric. And there is nothing much that i "never" do. And don't provide it if your going to grumble about it every time...Especially if there's no love implied

It's not like i specifically asked you, Strandie, to provide me with the lyric...and by the way, I just "researched" the words to a song called "she" by Charles Aznavour which was #1 in UK on the day i was born. And yes, on this board, I often figure that someone else will easily know the answer to some query i may have, and gladly jot it down if they feel like it because a lot of people know more than me, and this is a conversational board.

strandinthewind · #25 10-07-2004, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

This is what i was talking about. And i didn't research because it was an idle conversation in which i thought i already knew the lyric. And there is nothing much that i "never" do. And don't provide it if your going to grumble about it every time...Especially if there's no love implied

It's not like i specifically asked you, Strandie, to provide me with the lyric...and by the way, I just "researched" the words to a song called "she" by Charles Aznavour which was #1 in UK on the day i was born. And yes, on this board, I often figure that someone else will easily know the answer to some query i may have, and gladly jot it down if they feel like it because a lot of people know more than me, and this is a conversational board.

well, if ya can do it there

amber · #26 10-07-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

well, if ya can do it there

well, i thought i had it right, and also, i am at work, and only you seem to be the one who is all "

" at me, other people just answer if they know, or, i guess ignore me if they don't. I mean, i understand what you're saying, but seriously, you don't have to tell me if it's that much trouble, or whatever...I mean, do you like telling me answers while complaining about my lack of research? I don't really get it

And you said before it wasn't done with love, and trying to make me a better person and all that, so why even bother? For fun? It doesn't really seem fun to you

I mean, I love ya, strandie, but....I mean, obviously, you can say whatever you want, but i'll probably say this same thing every time, with slight variance depending on the situation...But either way the basic message from me will be "feel free not to answer me if you're going to b**** about it"

Amberguesa

gldstwmn · #27 10-07-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

As an aside, I saw Joe when he was on a solo tour at some point in the early 90s at a small venue, I think it was the Palladium in RI. It was not his best performance. He drank champagne from the bottle the whole night. He was very scruffy looking with crazy white hair everywhere and messy, shapeless clothes. He looked like a bum. He also had a blow up doll up there! He was largely incoherrent. So when hell froze over, and I saw him a few years later with the Eagles, the cleanup seemed miraculous! It was awesome.

Anyone remember the Letterman appearance when he was drunk off his ass? I'm surprised Dave let him come out. Dave handled him with kid gloves and they got through it. Corbin Bernson came out and told Joe what a big fan he was, etc. I don't even know if he played anything that night. He's incredibly talented but he sure was a mess for a while.

bwboy · #28 10-30-2016, 12:31 PM

I find it interesting that we fans often assume a Stevie song is written about a specific or particular person or event, when Stevie has mentioned in various liner notes, etc that that's not always the case. Look at Sara, apparently written about Mick Fleetwood and her relationship with Don Henley, or Edge of 17, written about the deaths of her uncle and John Lennon. So with Love is Like a River, it seems obvious she's probably singing about her relationships with both Joe Walsh AND Prince and maybe even others.