You guys think there will be a deluxe Tango? - Page 6

Andrew Smith · #76 10-13-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

Kenshi got the missing songs, but when I say I'd like to see the other performances I'm referring to the fact that The Dance was recorded over 3 nights. Which means there's 3 versions of The Chain that were filmed, and every other song they performed.

You mean a lot of material performed over those three nights has never been released at all?

I never knew that. I always thought it was a "one night only" gig. I've also always thought that "My Little Demon" sounds like it was recorded in the studio.

StevieNicksfann · #77 10-13-2016, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

The short version...

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I'm looking forward to the Deluxe Tango.
And so is Rusty.

Thanks for letting us know. Is TTMAR - take the money and run? Never saw that acronym before so had to look it up lol

sorcerer999 · #78 10-13-2016, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

You mean a lot of material performed over those three nights has never been released at all?

I never knew that. I always thought it was a "one night only" gig. I've also always thought that "My Little Demon" sounds like it was recorded in the studio.

According to Ken Caillat, ALL of the vocals for the "live" CD/DVD were re-recorded in the studio, as well as many instrumental overdubs. So, in essence, "The Dance" is really only a live experience in a visual sense. Most of what you hear is a "studio affectation".

iamnotafraid · #79 10-14-2016, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by StevieNicksfann

Thanks for letting us know. Is TTMAR - take the money and run? Never saw that acronym before so had to look it up lol

You're welcome.

Yes, that's what it stands for. It was
just to see if anyone pays attention.
Plus it's Alec's motto.

iamnotafraid · #80 10-14-2016, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

According to Ken Caillat, ALL of the vocals for the "live" CD/DVD were re-recorded in the studio, as well as many instrumental overdubs. So, in essence, "The Dance" is really only a live experience in a visual sense. Most of what you hear is a "studio affectation".

So "The Dance" is Red Rocks II?

sorcerer999 · #81 10-14-2016, 12:41 PM

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So "The Dance" is Red Rocks II?

Vocally, yes.

Thank God they didn't go back and do any "close up" re-shoots.

**jbrownsjr** · #82 10-14-2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

Vocally, yes.

Thank God they didn't go back and do any "close up" re-shoots.

haha! this cracked me up..

AnthonyMI · #83 10-14-2016, 03:17 PM

I think it would be cool to add the Juliet Book of Miracles hybrid someone did a few years ago

peer_gynt10 · #84 10-14-2016, 05:09 PM

I never knew this about The Dance. Should I be disappointed or relieved?

**mylittledemon** · #85 10-14-2016, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

You mean a lot of material performed over those three nights has never been released at all?

I never knew that. I always thought it was a "one night only" gig. I've also always thought that "My Little Demon" sounds like it was recorded in the studio.

Well I'd imagine they performed the same 22 songs all three nights, so there'd be loads of footage we haven't seen, as well as variances in the performances.

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Originally Posted by peer_gynt10

I never knew this about The Dance. Should I be disappointed or relieved?

Doesn't change my enjoyment of it... but I still think the greatest shame of the concert is that they didn't film it in widescreen.

**jbrownsjr** · #86 10-14-2016, 07:34 PM

Agreed, mylittledemon... they were on the cusp of new tech... That video should have been way better..

olive · #87 10-14-2016, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

According to Ken Caillat, ALL of the vocals for the "live" CD/DVD were re-recorded in the studio, as well as many instrumental overdubs. So, in essence, "The Dance" is really only a live experience in a visual sense. Most of what you hear is a "studio affectation".

They all do it

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss-alive/

**mylittledemon** · #88 10-14-2016, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Agreed, mylittledemon... they were on the cusp of new tech... That video should have been way better..

Yep. No idea why they weren't shooting on film... probably due to cost or something.

Anyway, didn't mean to derail the thread there. But yes... there has to be a deluxe TITN. But I don't want them to brick wall Tango like they did with the new Mirage.

The 5.1 mixes are probably the real gems in these new sets.

sorcerer999 · #89 10-15-2016, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

The 5.1 mixes are probably the real gems in these new sets.

Agreed! They take the experience of each album to a whole new level! I wish they would have included the DVD Audio of Rumours in the super deluxe boxed set. I do believe it's extremely hard to find now.

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I don't want them to brick wall Tango like they did with the new Mirage.

What do you mean by "brick wall"?

**mylittledemon** · #90 10-15-2016, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

Agreed! They take the experience of each album to a whole new level! I wish they would have included the DVD Audio of Rumours in the super deluxe boxed set. I do believe it's extremely hard to find now.

No idea why they didn't include the DVD-A, but yes it was a shame

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What do you mean by "brick wall"?

It can be a tough thing to explain but I'll give it a go. What happens is they take the song and put a limiter on it... a limiter removes large peaks in the track. Google the term "wav form" and you'll be able to see what I'm talking about from a visual perspective... natural "hills" and "valleys" in the song. Anyway, hit on the snare drum from Mick can cause these peaks, or maybe a crash on a cymbal. When these peaks are removed, the overall volume of the rest of the song can then increase. But what happens is you lose some of the natural dynamics that previously existed. Sure, quieter parts become loud, and more pronounced (Hey, I heard a guitar lick I've never heard before!), but the parts that were always easy to hear also have now been turned up to 11. (Nigel Tufnel reference there) The subtleties of the album are often lost. Back in my audio engineering days this would've lent to what's called listener fatigue... like being at a concert... your hearing becomes diminished over time from the wall of loudness. (Did that make any sense at all?) haha