Beautiful Quote about Christine by Lindsey

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

From the liner notes...

Thankfully, there were some stabilizing influences at the Chateau including the calming presence of Christine McVie. Nicks notes, “When Christine is around, the atmosphere is much better. Lindsey likes her a lot and recognizes her talent and doesn’t have any baggage with her. She’s sort of the Earth Mother who can speak truth to anybody. That’s always been her role. She’s not just a great voice — she’s the great voice of reason. She is able to make everyone come to their senses and get back to work. And she’s the kind of person who will say, ‘We’re not getting anywhere, I’m going to go home and cook.’ She doesn’t put up with much — and never has. She’s no nonsense — and we always have a lot of nonsense going on.

This might be the greatest thing I've ever read from Stevie.

[nicepace]

I think it can be broken down to "Like Stevie, I made Christine's songs better than they were, but she didn't mind it as much as Stevie."

That's a misinterpretation, in my opinion. It's not that she doesn't mind what Lindsey does for her songs; she embraces and acknowledges what Lindsey does for her songs as a producer and co-musician. There is no dislike at all; in that sense, Christine's attitude is the polar opposite of Stevie's. Also, Lindsey is acknowledging that Christine has valuable input into his songs as a co-musician. This is the way a band is supposed to work.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by nicepace

That's a misinterpretation, in my opinion. It's not that she doesn't mind what Lindsey does for her songs; she embraces and acknowledges what Lindsey does for her songs as a producer and co-musician. There is no dislike at all; in that sense, Christine's attitude is the polar opposite of Stevie's. Also, Lindsey is acknowledging that Christine has valuable input into his songs as a co-musician. This is the way a band is supposed to work.

When I wrote with a latino a few years back, we had this amazing chemistry. But our solo work was completely different. He produced the music and he said that he learned so much having to produce music other than his own. It opens new doors.

[ryan4136]

Ha, why use 10 words, when 50 will do.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by ryan4136

Ha, why use 10 words, when 50 will do.

I swear I kept waiting for some punctuation, any punctuation marks.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

"I would say that it's...an intangible thing. It's a very strong thing of what I always thought was, for lack of a better term, the whole being greater than the sum of the parts...and I think in that sense Christine and I as two musicians who are very well-grounded in their craft have a kind of symmetry of respect and love for each other on a creative and a musical and a personal level, and I think that was a big part of what that whole being greater than the sum of the parts was at the time. The fact that what I could do for her, I did it for Stevie too but the fact that she (McVie) could infuse her sensibilities into my stuff and I could tap into what I do as a producer, say, and give back so much to her."

weren't there rumors from some insiders that SN is working on the new solo album, instead of joining FM? sounds like 2014 history repeat!

so glad that FM finally decided to stop waiting and go ahead and finish album they have mostly wrapped up already!

[sorcerer999]

Originally Posted by elle

weren't there rumors from some insiders that SN is working on the new solo album, instead of joining FM? sounds like 2014 history repeat!

That was a blatant lie told by Joe Seerg/Moe Sizlack/Welcomechris/SLN1, this forum's resident troll. There has been no official announcement about a new solo album.

[elle]

Originally Posted by sorcerer999

That was a blatant lie told by Joe Seerg/Moe Sizlack/Welcomechris/SLN1, this forum's resident troll. There has been no official announcement about a new solo album.

oh ok, thanks.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Here's another quote I found:

"The thing is, the music itself comes from an... organic place. That's something that a lot of people, I guess in layman terms, the fans, if you will, don't really understand is that without that chemistry, the music doesn't really exist. It's just instruments. But Christine gets that, and understands that if she's not able to play the keyboards, then on a personal level I say to myself, and anyone who might still be listening to my voice, "I'll play the keyboards then," and Christine gets that. It's more than a collaboration, it's a triage, only with two of us instead of three of us, because Stevie doesn't understand that. Or a square, because with John and Mick, there's four of us. Really, it's more of a rectangle, because our musical process is not equal, with myself as the foundation, Mick and John on the sides, all having to lift and support Christine, to help her raise her game, so to speak."

i'm not sure how i feel about this.... Now, if he'd said this about Stevie, whom I love, I would say this was a very fair statement.

I think Christine brings a hella lot more to the table than this quote seems to imply, so I'm not sure if he was intentionally being overbearing or it just came out wrong. So if he'd left out the "having to" life up Christine I'd be ok with it. The "having to" is a bit douchey.

I dislike when he creates the impression that the same isn't true of him-- that they all build a foundation to make him raise HIS game-- because he has to adapt to the other writers' material and because in Chris' case she brings much more complete songs/arrangements compared to Stevie (tho Stevie works with other musicians and brings real demos and has for a while-- she doesn't give him many raw piano songwriting demos anymore). By having a more complete demo from Chris, it forces HIM to raise his game as a producer because he has to adapt to what she's brought in versus getting much more of a blank canvas with Stevie's stuff. And Chris' playing and singing on his stuff makes it better too.

[AncientQueen]

^^^THIS!
I'm going further here, imho Lindsey can't write a hook and Christine certainly can. So all his "I make her records better" is just covering up that fact.
Honestly, he ruined SYW with his outdated production antics. Listen to "Everybody finds out" with the sampled "Big Love" moans in it for further reference.
And that was not even the worst.

Hey FM, here is my plan: Hire a producer (Rick Rubin would be good), make sure that Lindsey is gagged and bound in the attic, Troubadix-style, but free him for a bit guitar picking ever so often. So you get rid of the 80s sound and overproduced crap, make some music by just playing your instruments, you can do it.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

i'm not sure how i feel about this....

BWBOY MADE THAT STATEMENT YOU ARE ANALYZING UP.

i was just waiting for it to be buried a bit and for someone to pick it up as real.

[bwboy]

Bombaysapphires and AncientQueen, I'm sorry, I made that quote up. When I read the original quote, I was like, "WTF?" I apologize but honest to God, his original quote was just as stupid as the one I made up, and I was making fun of that. No disrespect intended to anyone here on the Ledge.

Like Lindsey, I guess I was being loquacious.

[elle]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Bombaysapphires and AncientQueen, I'm sorry, I made that quote up. When I read the original quote, I was like, "WTF?" I apologize but honest to God, his original quote was just as stupid as the one I made up, and I was making fun of that. No disrespect intended to anyone here on the Ledge..

You should also modify the original post where you made up the quote to make it clear its not lindseys quote, but yours.

Otherwise in 2 weeks someone will read it as real again, and we will have to go through this process again... and again.... and again.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by elle

You should also modify the original post where you made up the quote to make it clear its not lindseys quote, but yours.

Otherwise in 2 weeks someone will read it as real again, and we will have to go through this process again... and again.... and again.

Talk about losing credibility. As soon as I read it I knew it was fake and I'm pretty sure you did, as well. But yes, I'm sure some folks will read that and ponder it.

[elle]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Talk about losing credibility. As soon as I read it I knew it was fake and I'm pretty sure you did, as well. But yes, I'm sure some folks will read that and ponder it.

yes, i pointed out at the time that it's made up, so peeps didn't dwel on it. but by now it popped up again.

so thank you bwboy for fixing your original post with that made-up quote.

you are justifying your post by pointing out that Lindsey's original quote was rambling. which you pointed out first, and many agreed. but then you decided to make up similar quote but with throwing not-so-hidden daggers at Christine. people who are ready to believe all the worst about Lindsey, and even some who are necessarily not, took your made-up quote at face value, easily. John and i haven't because with know better, that he would NEVER say such things about Christine.