A FM Album without Stevie is just a Lindsey solo album

[Nick]

^Disagree. Fleetwood Mac to most people is Stevie and Lindsey. Christine's return a few years ago may not be known (or cared about) to casual music fans. Sorry, Stevie is the Beyonce of this group. LOL

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Nick

^Disagree. Fleetwood Mac to most people is Stevie and Lindsey. Christine's return a few years ago may not be known (or cared about) to casual music fans.

Yeah, that's why tickets cost four times as much and were harder to get.

And, Stevie had the fewest top-ten Fleetwood Mac hits.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Yeah, that's why tickets cost four times as much and were harder to get.

And, Stevie had the fewest top-ten Fleetwood Mac hits.

You can't be serious regarding Billboard hits when crap like "Macarena" spent 14 weeks at #1. Child please.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Saying FM should not tour as a foursome without Stevie because people at the water cooler at work know her and like her better than the others is ridiculous.

Ah, now I see why this thread is making people cranky. I'm not saying FM shouldn't tour without Stevie, in fact I would see FM in concert without her- this thread is my opinion of why I think they won't release an album or tour without her. I really think Mick and the others want to avoid what happened before, with Behind the Mask polarizing fans, or worse yet Time, which crashed and burned. After the success of the Dance, they've done a really good job of keeping their legacy going. The band went from nearly disappearing to being the comeback of the decade, and I think they all want to go out on a high note, and the best way to ensure that would be to have all 5 participate in the recording and tour.

I bet Mick thinks the album and tour won't be nearly as successful without Stevie, and that's why they're holding off. And I agree with him. Doesn't mean a tour wouldn't make money, but even Christine said without Stevie, they would play at more 'intimate' venues, so clearly the band feels the same way.

Again, I love Christine- Save Me, As Long As You Follow, Brown Eyes, Warm Ways, You Make Loving Fun, Did You Ever Love Me, Skies the Limit, Love in Store, my God, the woman sings most of my favorite FM songs! I even like her solo record from 1984 or whenever. But do you really think people under 30 know she wrote Don't Stop? They don't. We fans, who check this board and know every song by every member, and can name every solo album and what year they came out, we are the minority.

Sorry if my opinion irritated anyone, that was not my intent. But so many of us are speculating why Chris and Lindsey haven't went ahead and just released the album without Stevie, and this is my guess.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Nick

You can't be serious regarding Billboard hits when crap like "Macarena" spent 14 weeks at #1. Child please.

Stevie couldn't wipe Beyonce's ass... album sales or ticket sales...

child please... stay in your lane.

[Macfanforever]

I'll take both sides on this one.I say yes on one hand and I say no on the other hand because you have Christine there.If the Mac was only with Mick ,John and Lindsey.Then I consider a Lindsey solo with the Mac rhythm section of Mick and John as guests.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Yeah, that's why tickets cost four times as much and were harder to get.

And, Stevie had the fewest top-ten Fleetwood Mac hits.

Lindsey had Go Your Own Way, Tusk, and Big Love. Stevie had their only #1 hit, Dreams (I had to be snarky LOL) and Sara. Rhiannon, Gypsy, and Seven Wonders were, of course, complete failures because they didn't reach the top 10, and therefore don't count. And Silver Springs and Landslide were utter failures, as well. Considering the way Lindsey dominated their albums, it's interesting he's had the most recorded FM songs and yet the fewest singles. What could that say about his songs? Maybe they weren't strong enough to sell an album? I love a lot of his songs, whether they were hits or not, but if your measure of success is top 10, I don't know...

Since you mentioned the top 10, how many top 10 singles have Lindsey, Christine, and Stevie had outside of FM, since that's your measure of success? Lindsey-1;. Christine-1; Stevie-5. Top 20 hits? Lindsey-0; Christine-0; Stevie-5 more. Top 10 solo albums? Or can we quit already?

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by Nick

You can't be serious regarding Billboard hits when crap like "Macarena" spent 14 weeks at #1. Child please.

I like that tune.

If it was today's crap yes but I do like that tune.LOL.

[Macfanforever]

Looks like hot topic here.LOL................................................................Carry on guys.LOL................................................................................

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Rhiannon, Gypsy, and Seven Wonders were, of course, complete failures because they didn't reach the top 10, and therefore don't count.

Not saying they were failures, just as Say You Love Me, Think About Me, and Everywhere weren't failures. But, you can't blindly say that because Stevie is the bigger household name, she's the only one the public cares about. She was a bigger household name in 1987, the last time they had a hit album of new material, and Lindsey and Christine had top five hits, while Stevie barely cracked the top 20.

And Silver Springs and Landslide were utter failures, as well.

As were Second Hand News, I'm So Afraid, and Songbird.

Considering the way Lindsey dominated their albums, it's interesting he's had the most recorded FM songs and yet the fewest singles.

How is that surprising? He's also the one who was hell bent on moving the band away from the mainstream, which ultimately saved their artistic credentials.

Since you mentioned the top 10, how many top 10 singles have Lindsey, Christine, and Stevie had outside of FM, since that's your measure of success? Lindsey-1;. Christine-1; Stevie-5.

Actually, Stevie only had four:
SDMHA: (a Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers song that they turned into a duet for her album).
Leather & Lace (a duet with Don Henley)
Stand Back
Talk To Me (which she didn't write)

Christine and Lindsey wrote or cowrote their solo singles. So, if you limit it to songs they wrote/cowrote and sang lead by themselves (no celebrity duets to pad the numbers), they're pretty even at one apiece.

However, Stevie SHOULD have more success as a solo artist. She's the only one who worked to be a name outside of Fleetwood Mac (with hit duets with Kenny Loggins, Tom Petty, and Don Henley to begin her career outside of the band). Lindsey (before he left), Christine, and Mick only did solo projects as extracurricular activities.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Hey, I love Christine McVie!! But I'm a FM fanatic. Unfortunately, most of my co-workers don't know who she is. And mentioning Got a Hold on Me doesn't ring any bells for them. The average person has no idea who she is.

Average person? I'm glad that you're in touch with that element.


You may have underestimated the element here.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

But, you can't blindly say that because Stevie is the bigger household name, she's the only one the public cares about. She was a bigger household name in 1987, the last time they had a hit album of new material, and Lindsey and Christine had top five hits

Actually, Stevie only had four:
SDMHA: (a Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers song that they turned into a duet for her album).
Leather & Lace (a duet with Don Henley)
Stand Back
Talk To Me

You forgot Whenever I Call You Friend, which was a top 10 song. And a top 10 song is a top 10 song, whether it was a duet or written by someone else.

And I don't think Stevie is "the only one the public cares about." I'm not saying that she's better than Lindsey or Christine, or John and Mick, for that matter. Having more hits or albums doesn't mean artistically she's a better singer... but it does make her very well known. If American Idol had asked Christine to be on the show, she probably would have declined, for whatever reason- fear of flying or maybe she is quiet and has no desire to be on tv. The point is, AI was a huge show and iconic, and it introduced Stevie to younger kids. America's Got Talent did the same thing for her.

THAT is why people know Stevie and not Christine.

[jmn3]

There's too much nonsense in this thread to respond to all of it, but just responding to the title and initial post - an album released by Fleetwood Mac containing songs written and sung by Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham only, is as much a Fleetwood Mac album as Say You Will, Time, Behind the Mask, Rumours, Mystery to Me, Bare Trees, and Then Play On. Give me a break...

[olive]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Stevie couldn't wipe Beyonce's ass... album sales or ticket sales...

child please... stay in your lane.

beyonce had a struggle selling tickets here they were put on sale umm special offer packages

[Nick]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Stevie couldn't wipe Beyonce's ass... album sales or ticket sales...

child please... stay in your lane.

No, you stay in yours. I love how people want to bring up "most Billboard hits" and conveniently forget to mention that the only #1 FM song was sung by Stevie.