Fleetwood mac WILL record new album says stevie - Page 74

mitzo · #**1096** 06-16-2016, 05:15 PM

Funny, I would have thought he main reason Lindsey left FM in the late '80s was that he physically assaulted Stevie. There is ample evidence he is prone to violence and has an uncontrollable temper. All that, combined with his micromanagement of the recording process, and his tendency to fill FM albums with what are basically his solo songs, may make some people think twice about even bothering.

SteveMacD · #**1097** 06-16-2016, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

Funny, I would have thought he main reason Lindsey left FM in the late '80s was that he physically assaulted Stevie. There is ample evidence he is prone to violence and has an uncontrollable temper. All that, combined with his micromanagement of the recording process, and his tendency to fill FM albums with what are basically his solo songs, may make some people think twice about even bothering.

shackin'up · #**1098** 06-16-2016, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

Funny, I would have thought he main reason Lindsey left FM in the late '80s was that he physically assaulted Stevie. There is ample evidence he is prone to violence and has an uncontrollable temper. All that, combined with his micromanagement of the recording process, and his tendency to fill FM albums with what are basically his solo songs, may make some people think twice about even bothering.

Hahahaha!
That is funny.

iamnotafraid · #**1099** 06-16-2016, 06:14 PM

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There are plenty of great songs on those albums. And on the solo albums in the mean time (no pun intended).

And why are the other albums ignored? Are you only considering albums that have Stevie and Lindsey both on them, but Christine take or leave?

The new songs on The Dance, to me weren't very
good at all.

Consider in the ten years that passed after Tango, the
best they could do between three songwriters was:

Temporary One
Bleed To Love Her
My Little Demon
Sweet Girl.

The best I could say is that Lindsey's songs were listenable.
And that's not really a compliment. I do like Christine and
Stevie but their songs were horrible. And again consider how
much time had passed - and that was the best they could do.

As far as the albums I ignored, there's a reason for that.
For me there are two Fleetwood Macs. There's Peter Green's
Fleetwood Mac. And Lindsey and Stevie's Fleetwood Mac.

Without Peter or Lindsey they are a rudderless ship. Behind
The Mask and Time proved as much.

I like the 5, but after Tusk there is little that I would wholeheartedly
recommend to anyone that wasn't a serious Fleetwood Mac fan.

Danielle · #**1100** 06-16-2016, 07:42 PM

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Hahahaha!
That is funny.

It's not funny at all, in my opinion.

SteveMacD · #**1101** 06-16-2016, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Danielle

It's not funny at all, in my opinion.

Oh, it's hilarious. Lindsey was such a tyrant that Stevie told an audience at one of the last BTM shows that she hoped Lindsey could find it in his heart to work with her someday. Stevie had him produce "Twisted," had him play on two out of three of her last solo albums, and they've made cameos at each other's shows. Clearly she got over any of his past transgressions (and he her's, but I forgot we're not supposed to talk about that).

Lindsey was such a tyrant that Mick split up an admittedly dying Fleetwood Mac to go work for him. Lindsey was so hard to work with that Christine gave him her demos before she officially rejoined.

Lindsey's no saint, and clearly he's gone through a lot of therapy, but they're over it, and have been for a while. We don't know the guy, what he's gone through, or what they went through with him. What we do know is that, for whatever reason that's none of our business, they forgave him and decided that they could work with him. And, it should be noted that they got to a forgiving place before he got there.

mitzo · #**1102** 06-16-2016, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Oh, it's hilarious. Lindsey was such a tyrant that Stevie told an audience at one of the last BTM shows that she hoped Lindsey could find it in his heart to work with her someday. Stevie had him produce "Twisted," had him play on two out of three of her last solo albums, and they've made cameos at each other's shows. Clearly she got over any of his past transgressions (and he her's, but I forgot we're not supposed to talk about that).

Lindsey was such a tyrant that Mick split up an admittedly dying Fleetwood Mac to go work for him. Lindsey was so hard to work with that Christine gave him her demos before she officially rejoined.

Lindsey's no saint, and clearly he's gone through a lot of therapy, but they're over it, and have been for a while. We don't know the guy, what he's gone through, or what they went through with him. What we do know is that, for whatever reason that's none of our business, they forgave him and decided that they could work with him. And, it should be noted that they got to a forgiving place before he got there.

So why no new album then?

BombaySapphire3 · #**1103** 06-16-2016, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

The new songs on The Dance, to me weren't very
good at all.

Consider in the ten years that passed after Tango, the
best they could do between three songwriters was:

Temporary One
Bleed To Love Her
My Little Demon
Sweet Girl.

The best I could say is that Lindsey's songs were listenable.
And that's not really a compliment. I do like Christine and
Stevie but their songs were horrible. And again consider how
much time had passed - and that was the best they could do.

As far as the albums I ignored, there's a reason for that.
For me there are two Fleetwood Macs. There's Peter Green's
Fleetwood Mac. And Lindsey and Stevie's Fleetwood Mac.

Without Peter or Lindsey they are a rudderless ship. Behind
The Mask and Time proved as much.

I like the 5, but after Tusk there is little that I would wholeheartedly
recommend to anyone that wasn't a serious Fleetwood Mac fan.

So the potential for any new album to be terrible to mediocre at best is almost certain? So perhaps it is for the best that it has been shelved

mitzo · #**1104** 06-16-2016, 09:28 PM

There will be no new album.

MikeVielhaber · #**1105** 06-16-2016, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

The new songs on The Dance, to me weren't very
good at all.

Consider in the ten years that passed after Tango, the
best they could do between three songwriters was:

Temporary One
Bleed To Love Her
My Little Demon
Sweet Girl.

The best I could say is that Lindsey's songs were listenable.
And that's not really a compliment. I do like Christine and
Stevie but their songs were horrible. And again consider how
much time had passed - and that was the best they could do.

As far as the albums I ignored, there's a reason for that.
For me there are two Fleetwood Macs. There's Peter Green's
Fleetwood Mac. And Lindsey and Stevie's Fleetwood Mac.

Without Peter or Lindsey they are a rudderless ship. Behind
The Mask and Time proved as much.

I like the 5, but after Tusk there is little that I would wholeheartedly
recommend to anyone that wasn't a serious Fleetwood Mac fan.

But again you're acting like those were the first songs they'd written and released in 10 years. Stevie contributed to a Fleetwood Mac album and a few solo albums. Christine contributed to two Fleetwood Mac albums and Lindsey had a solo album plus the one that became a lot of Say You Will. They weren't holding on to songs for 10 years for the day they reunite the Rumours lineup.

BombaySapphire3 · #**1106** 06-16-2016, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

There will be no new album.

Right. The sessions were stopped and shelved over 2 years ago.

mitzo · #**1107** 06-16-2016, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Right. The sessions were stopped and shelved over 2 years ago.

It's over. We will get another oldies tour in 2017 and maybe a rerelease of something. There is no general will for a new album.

SteveMacD · #**1108** 06-16-2016, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

So why no new album then?

I don't know. With the lack of any new information, solo or band outside of the one-off in July, I don't know that they're not working on something as we speak. The silence is deafening.

There could be a lot of reasons that we don't know about for the lack of an album. That having been said, specific situations that happened 30 years ago are probably not relevant to today's situation, since they have worked together in and out of Fleetwood Mac since. The only thing that is consistent is the personality conflict between Stevie and Lindsey that probably goes back to before they even joined the band.

SteveMacD · #**1109** 06-16-2016, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

It's over. We will get another oldies tour in 2017 and maybe a rerelease of something. There is no general will for a new album.

Well, there is. Four-fifths want a new album, one doesn't appear to be convinced (assuming nothing's changed since the tour ended). Personally, I'd rather get a new album without the holdout. She's not on my alternative Tango track listing, and it sounds fine.

elle · #**1110** 06-16-2016, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

It's over. We will get another oldies tour in 2017 and maybe a rerelease of something. There is no general will for a new album.

no general will aka Nicks cannot write anymore.

unlike Lindsey and Christine, it is pretty apparent Nicks actually wants to be an oldies act, and the best she can do is pretend she is still creative by re-recording 40 yo songs.

btw, there was this tweet from David Wild earlier today:

I am supposed to talk with Lindsey Buckingham tomorrow. So here's one of my favorite LB songs ever -- "Countdown" https://t.co/QEIiYu3H2Q
— David Wild (@Wildaboutmusic) June 16, 2016