Fleetwood mac WILL record new album says stevie - Page 72

**jbrownsjr** · #**1066** 06-15-2016, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Thats cool that you can revise history and get people to say "right on!". It was not Lindsey's idea or desire to turn his solo albums into Fleetwood Mac albums. It was either the band or the record company who demanded it of him. For SayYou Will, I don't think it was so much that they didn't want a Lindsey album but they really wanted a Fleetwood Mac album (which resulted in The Dance and subsequently Say You Will) and the way to force that was to refuse to release Lindsey's album. Lindsey was never the one to initiate getting the band back together and he's plenty happy with his solo audience. Who needed who?

Exactly, and if Stevie was so independent she wouldn't have needed this tour. I guess it's hard to turn down 10 million when you're splitting a smaller ticket with Rod Stewart.

sue · #**1067** 06-15-2016, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Exactly, and if Stevie was so independent she wouldn't have needed this tour. I guess it's hard to turn down 10 million when you're splitting a smaller ticket with Rod Stewart.

SIR Rod Stewart, if you don't mind.....
Yes, unbelievable, I know....

**jbrownsjr** · #**1068** 06-15-2016, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sue

SIR Rod Stewart, if you don't mind.....
Yes, unbelievable, I know....

LOL... sorry Sir, Rod!!

Macfanforever · #**1069** 06-15-2016, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Exactly, and if Stevie was so independent she wouldn't have needed this tour. I guess it's hard to turn down 10 million when you're splitting a smaller ticket with Rod Stewart.

Will the Sir Rod combo tour did a number on her and ruined her IYD release.I think it was a big mistake going out on tour with him at that time.If she went out with him on a year which was she was not promoting any album .It would be fine if she did tour with him.I did enjoy seeing him live.He's an excellent entertainer.It was bad timing as always.

aleuzzi · #**1070** 06-15-2016, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

Considering it took sixteen years to record a studio
album between Tango and Say You Will, I'd say
they're right on schedule.

If I had a worry about the new album, it wouldn't
be it's release date. It would be how good it could
possibly be.

The new songs on The Dance, Say You Will and
then the extended play doesn't bode well for the
new album.

Couldn't disagree more. New music is something to respect and honor, no matter how well or poorly it measures up to a standard now forty years old.

And I loved the new Dance and SYW songs. The EP? Let's just say I was glad they did it.

mitzo · #**1071** 06-15-2016, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Thats cool that you can revise history and get people to say "right on!". It was not Lindsey's idea or desire to turn his solo albums into Fleetwood Mac albums. It was either the band or the record company who demanded it of him. For SayYou Will, I don't think it was so much that they didn't want a Lindsey album but they really wanted a Fleetwood Mac album (which resulted in The Dance and subsequently Say You Will) and the way to force that was to refuse to release Lindsey's album. Lindsey was never the one to initiate getting the band back together and he's plenty happy with his solo audience. Who needed who?

I do not think we really know whose idea it was to turn Linds's doomed solo projects into FM releases. All we do know is that it happened.

And he was able to simultaneously use Stevie's audience-drawing persona and domineer her.

He was also able to leave the band for a decade and waltz right back in at will, brandishing more unreleasable solo work.

He is the problem.

shackin'up · #**1072** 06-15-2016, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

I do not think we really know whose idea it was to turn Linds's doomed solo projects into FM releases. All we do know is that it happened.

And he was able to simultaneously use Stevie's audience-drawing persona and domineer her.

He was also able to leave the band for a decade and waltz right back in at will, brandishing more unreleasable solo work.

He is the problem.

That's why he recorded with Christine and Mick. To not release a Mac album.

AliceLover · #**1073** 06-15-2016, 06:48 PM

What's most mysterious to me is Stevie and Lindsey's lack of activity this year. Even after huge Mac tours, they usually jump into either solo shows or solo albums. It's weird to me that BOTH of them haven't had an ounce of activity this year. The optimist in me thinks they are secretly recording together.

DauphineMarie · #**1074** 06-15-2016, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

I do not think we really know whose idea it was to turn Linds's doomed solo projects into FM releases. All we do know is that it happened.

And he was able to simultaneously use Stevie's audience-drawing persona and domineer her.

He was also able to leave the band for a decade and waltz right back in at will, brandishing more unreleasable solo work.

He is the problem.

I have been wanting to say this for ages, but was too afraid to even breach the subject. Thank you for your bravery!

This is so true. Lindsey's condescension toward Stevie and her contributions to FM is well known, despite the fact that without her Fleetwood Mac would probably not exist as it is, and after Rumours, his successful contributions became almost non-existent. It is Stevie who is the one who has consistently returned to Fleetwood Mac despite her solo success, and puts the band before her solo work. After Stevie's treatment during the making of Say You Will (see Destiny Rules), I really don't blame her for not wanting to make an album with a guy who consistently criticizes her work, then releases flops.

elle · #**1075** 06-15-2016, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up

That's why he recorded with Christine and Mick. To not release a Mac album.

lol exactly! makes so much sense, no?

and yes, poor Stevie must have wanted to contribute at least 3 new songs to the EP, same as Lindsey, but he wouldn't let her and relegated her to re-record a single, pre-FM song.

actually, how many really good / musically creative songs has Stevie released that she didn't write some time pre-BN album?
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BlueDenimLamp · #**1076** 06-15-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Thats cool that you can revise history and get people to say "right on!". It was not Lindsey's idea or desire to turn his solo albums into Fleetwood Mac albums. It was either the band or the record company who demanded it of him. For SayYou Will, I don't think it was so much that they didn't want a Lindsey album but they really wanted a Fleetwood Mac album (which resulted in The Dance and subsequently Say You Will) and the way to force that was to refuse to release Lindsey's album. Lindsey was never the one to initiate getting the band back together and he's plenty happy with his solo audience. Who needed who?

Yes that's it!!!

While on the other hand Stevie has put out 3 (yes three) solo albums since she returned to FM...If the way to get them to record FM records is to refuse the solo projects why have they (WB or FM) not done that with Stevie? Stevie recorded "TISL" just prior to "SYW" (but WB declined LB solo) Stevie recorded "In Your Dreams" instead of going in the studio with FM (like Mick wanted) Stevie even recorded 24 Karat Gold while FM was hard at work recording the as yet and unfinished and unreleased project...Why did WB not tell Stevie "Finish the FM record BEFORE you record another solo album"???

elle · #**1077** 06-15-2016, 08:02 PM

i was thinking about this recently - you know what i love about this place lately? it is balanced! just read through the last few pages in this thread, there are opinions on all sides! there are fans of everyone, not just fans of a single songwriter with blinders on, dumping on everyone else.

i was reading some old threads on the LB board, and while there was lots of activity, there would be one Buck fan there, and 10 chiffs just dumping on both Lindsey and that fan. on a Lindsey board!

DauphineMarie · #**1078** 06-15-2016, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Yes that's it!!!

While on the other hand Stevie has put out 3 (yes three) solo albums since she returned to FM...If the way to get them to record FM records is to refuse the solo projects why have they (WB or FM) not done that with Stevie? Stevie recorded "TISL" just prior to "SYW" (but WB declined LB solo) Stevie recorded "In Your Dreams" instead of going in the studio with FM (like Mick wanted) Stevie even recorded 24 Karat Gold while FM was hard at work recording the as yet and unfinished and unreleased project...Why did WB not tell Stevie "Finish the FM record BEFORE you record another solo album"???

Because WB knows that Stevie's albums will be mildly successful.. #5 (TISL +IYD), #7 (24KG) while not #1's, will still sell better than anything Lindsey could sell solo-wise.

That, and 24KG was the last album Stevie had to release to fulfill her contract.. If anything, they told her to release the album quickly so FM could tour and record without that contract hanging over her head. They announced Christine's return at the beginning of 2014, with dates scheduled for later that year. That couldn't have been enough time to assemble, record, and promote a new FM album, so most likely Stevie knew she had to go on the road and wouldn't have time to fulfill her contract if she were to wait.

All that being said, this now frees up everyone from their respective contracts, making the case for a joint effort in the near future.

MikeVielhaber · #**1079** 06-15-2016, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

I do not think we really know whose idea it was to turn Linds's doomed solo projects into FM releases. All we do know is that it happened.

And he was able to simultaneously use Stevie's audience-drawing persona and domineer her.

He was also able to leave the band for a decade and waltz right back in at will, brandishing more unreleasable solo work.

He is the problem.

We know exactly how it happened. They haven't been tight lipped about what went on and they haven't given conflicting reports. He returned at the same time as Stevie and Christine who had both left as well. It wasn't "at will". It was an agreement of 5 people who had all gone separate ways to reunite. And he didn't do it because his solo career was floundering. His solo albums have gotten critical acclaim. Again, you're making up your own facts to try to make a point that has no merit. Either come back with some real facts or maybe you'd be best served to just quit already.

MikeVielhaber · #**1080** 06-15-2016, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Yes that's it!!!

While on the other hand Stevie has put out 3 (yes three) solo albums since she returned to FM...If the way to get them to record FM records is to refuse the solo projects why have they (WB or FM) not done that with Stevie? Stevie recorded "TISL" just prior to "SYW" (but WB declined LB solo) Stevie recorded "In Your Dreams" instead of going in the studio with FM (like Mick wanted) Stevie even recorded 24 Karat Gold while FM was hard at work recording the as yet and unfinished and unreleased project...Why did WB not tell Stevie "Finish the FM record BEFORE you record another solo album"???

Well if I'm not mistaken they were no longer under contract with Warner brothers after the Dance. They shopped around Say You Will and released the EP independently. They are currently not under any contract.