2016 Presidential Election (#2)

[SisterNightroad]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Trouble everywhere.Very interesting read .Thanks.I'm part Italian since my late dad was full Italian and his dad was from Italy.I cant remember which part of Italy he was from .I have to ask my Aunt or Uncle where he was from .I just heard on the radio the Venezuela is petitioning to get their president removed from power.Its a big mess down there.Mr Trump has another speech tonight lets see if it goes out of hand.I dont mind the protesting.Just keep it civil and the violence out.What is scary is my late dad was the same way as Mr Trump is with "Say It like it is". He probably would support Mr Trump.

You're welcome. This article was different from all the others that stress the similarity between Trump and Berlusconi so it immediately caught my attention. I remembered that you and another ledgie (I think Penguin-head?) were of Italian ancestry.
Also Berlusconi was (is) much say it like it is, I still remember when he called Angela Merkel an "un****able fat-ass".
Yes, the scariest eye-opening moments are when you realize what your parents would want to do in your place. My mother is very Right wing and sometimes she likes Trump. But she comes from a very conservative family, her grand-father was a royalist. And my father's family has always been communist.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

I'd bet that most protesters don't know
what they're protesting.

I agree .Some are paid pro-protesters by the elites as I read months ago.Its interesting watching some of the interviews on the Youtube vids of some of these.Just listen to the stupidity from some of them.Most are teens and 20 somethings and some college kids. I like to know what are they teaching in school these days .Nevermind the lack of parenting.

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

You're welcome. This article was different from all the others that stress the similarity between Trump and Berlusconi so it immediately caught my attention. I remembered that you and another ledgie (I think Penguin-head?) were of Italian ancestry.
Also Berlusconi was (is) much say it like it is, I still remember when he called Angela Merkel an "un****able fat-ass".
Yes, the scariest eye-opening moments are when you realize what your parents would want to do in your place. My mother is very Right wing and sometimes she likes Trump. But she comes from a very conservative family, her grand-father was a royalist. And my father's family has always been communist.

Yes the same here with family.My dad was always on the right and my mom was on the left.

[Macfanforever]

Looks like Mr Trump will get the nomination before the convention while Hillary still dealing with Bernie hanging on for the ride.



https://www.google.com/#q=republican...hort/m.09c7w0/

[BlueDenimLamp]

Fair is fair...Let's give Hillary some attention and not just focus on Donald Trump...

https://t.co/DdTXgbpnuY #BernieTrumpDebate #FeelTheBern #BernieSandersForPresident2016 #DropOutHillary #BernieOrBust #StillSanders

— edmund katso (@ekatso) May 26, 2016

From The Observer...(click the Hillary picture)

Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign chair, Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, is currently under investigation by the FBI and Department of Justice over questionable contributions to his 2013 campaign. According to a recent CNN report, the investigation—which has been going on for at least a year—calls into question Mr. McAuliffe’s service as a board member to the Clinton Global Initiative, a subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation. A $120,000 donation from a Chinese businessman, Wang Wenliang, made through U.S.-based businesses, raised red flags with investigators—along with several other donations, like the $2 million he gave the Clinton Foundation.

Governor McAuliffe is just one of several close associates to the Clintons currently under investigation for corruption. Ms. Clinton’s 2008 campaign co-chair, DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is under immense pressure to resign thanks to her favoritism for Ms. Clinton throughout the Democratic primaries. Ms. Wasserman Schultz essentially tipped the scale against Senator Bernie Sanders, a violation of the impartiality her position at the DNC demands. Prominent Clinton supporter and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio is also under review as part of an ongoing federal investigation into two businessmen with close ties to the mayor. The Podesta Group, implicated in the release of the Panama Papers, was founded by Tony Podesta and Hillary Clinton’s campaign chief, John Podesta. Several other prominent donors to the Clinton Foundation have also been linked to the Panama Papers, and the Clinton Foundation itself has been frequently cited as a source of money laundering and exchanging political favors for large donations.

It comes as no surprise that Hillary Clinton’s closest associates are involved in a litany of ethics violations as corruption has been the modus operandi of Ms. Clinton’s campaign for the entire duration of the primaries. Hillary Clinton has publicly vocalized support for campaign finance reform, yet owes much of her success in the primaries to the current corrupt system, which enables her to fundraise unethically, bending and possibly breaking current campaign finance laws. The Hillary Victory Fund, a joint fundraising committee between the Clinton campaign and the DNC, was recently revealed by Politico to be laundering money to the Clinton campaign to circumvent campaign finance laws. Mr. Sanders’ campaign has also highlighted additional violations and ethical breaches made by the Hillary Victory Fund.

“The financial disclosure reports on file with the Federal Election Commission indicate that the joint committee invested millions in low-dollar, online fundraising and advertising that solely benefits the Clinton campaign,” states a press release from Mr. Sanders‘ campaign. “The Sanders campaign ‘is particularly concerned that these extremely large-dollar individual contributions have been used by the Hillary Victory Fund to pay for more than $7.8 million in direct mail efforts and over $8.6 million in online advertising’ according to the letter to the DNC. Both outlays benefit the Clinton presidential campaign “by generating low-dollar contributions that flow only to HFA [Hillary for America] rather than to the DNC or any of the participating state party committees.”

In an interview with Think Progress, two campaign finance experts emphasized that what the Hillary Victory Fund has done is unprecedented and should be illegal.

“Their argument is usually that it helps the party generally, but the practical and legal reality is that it benefits Hillary Clinton. You just don’t expect this kind of thing to happen in the primaries,” Larry Noble, with the Campaign Legal Center, told Think Progress. The article noted that this type of fundraising has only been legal since 2014, when the Supreme Court, in the McCutcheon v. FEC ruling, revoked what legal protections in campaign finance law remained after the 2011 Citizens United ruling.

The Democratic National Committee has completely disregarded the democratic process by colluding with the Clinton campaign to simultaneously raise funds for itself while helping Hillary Clinton secure the presidential nomination. The Party should be pushing to reform campaign finance law—not embracing policies that allow wealthy individuals and corporations to buy off elections. While a few members of Congress push to get big money out of politics—most notably Bernie Sanders—the Democratic leadership has only strengthened its ties to wealthy and corporate donors who have hijacked the party for their own interests over the progressive agenda held by voters identifying as Democrats.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Fair is fair...Let's give Hillary some attention and not just focus on Donald Trump...

https://t.co/DdTXgbpnuY #BernieTrumpDebate #FeelTheBern #BernieSandersForPresident2016 #DropOutHillary #BernieOrBust #StillSanders

— edmund katso (@ekatso) May 26, 2016

From The Observer...(click the Hillary picture)

Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign chair, Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, is currently under investigation by the FBI and Department of Justice over questionable contributions to his 2013 campaign. According to a recent CNN report, the investigation—which has been going on for at least a year—calls into question Mr. McAuliffe’s service as a board member to the Clinton Global Initiative, a subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation. A $120,000 donation from a Chinese businessman, Wang Wenliang, made through U.S.-based businesses, raised red flags with investigators—along with several other donations, like the $2 million he gave the Clinton Foundation.

Governor McAuliffe is just one of several close associates to the Clintons currently under investigation for corruption. Ms. Clinton’s 2008 campaign co-chair, DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is under immense pressure to resign thanks to her favoritism for Ms. Clinton throughout the Democratic primaries. Ms. Wasserman Schultz essentially tipped the scale against Senator Bernie Sanders, a violation of the impartiality her position at the DNC demands. Prominent Clinton supporter and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio is also under review as part of an ongoing federal investigation into two businessmen with close ties to the mayor. The Podesta Group, implicated in the release of the Panama Papers, was founded by Tony Podesta and Hillary Clinton’s campaign chief, John Podesta. Several other prominent donors to the Clinton Foundation have also been linked to the Panama Papers, and the Clinton Foundation itself has been frequently cited as a source of money laundering and exchanging political favors for large donations.

It comes as no surprise that Hillary Clinton’s closest associates are involved in a litany of ethics violations as corruption has been the modus operandi of Ms. Clinton’s campaign for the entire duration of the primaries. Hillary Clinton has publicly vocalized support for campaign finance reform, yet owes much of her success in the primaries to the current corrupt system, which enables her to fundraise unethically, bending and possibly breaking current campaign finance laws. The Hillary Victory Fund, a joint fundraising committee between the Clinton campaign and the DNC, was recently revealed by Politico to be laundering money to the Clinton campaign to circumvent campaign finance laws. Mr. Sanders’ campaign has also highlighted additional violations and ethical breaches made by the Hillary Victory Fund.

“The financial disclosure reports on file with the Federal Election Commission indicate that the joint committee invested millions in low-dollar, online fundraising and advertising that solely benefits the Clinton campaign,” states a press release from Mr. Sanders‘ campaign. “The Sanders campaign ‘is particularly concerned that these extremely large-dollar individual contributions have been used by the Hillary Victory Fund to pay for more than $7.8 million in direct mail efforts and over $8.6 million in online advertising’ according to the letter to the DNC. Both outlays benefit the Clinton presidential campaign “by generating low-dollar contributions that flow only to HFA [Hillary for America] rather than to the DNC or any of the participating state party committees.”

In an interview with Think Progress, two campaign finance experts emphasized that what the Hillary Victory Fund has done is unprecedented and should be illegal.

“Their argument is usually that it helps the party generally, but the practical and legal reality is that it benefits Hillary Clinton. You just don’t expect this kind of thing to happen in the primaries,” Larry Noble, with the Campaign Legal Center, told Think Progress. The article noted that this type of fundraising has only been legal since 2014, when the Supreme Court, in the McCutcheon v. FEC ruling, revoked what legal protections in campaign finance law remained after the 2011 Citizens United ruling.

The Democratic National Committee has completely disregarded the democratic process by colluding with the Clinton campaign to simultaneously raise funds for itself while helping Hillary Clinton secure the presidential nomination. The Party should be pushing to reform campaign finance law—not embracing policies that allow wealthy individuals and corporations to buy off elections. While a few members of Congress push to get big money out of politics—most notably Bernie Sanders—the Democratic leadership has only strengthened its ties to wealthy and corporate donors who have hijacked the party for their own interests over the progressive agenda held by voters identifying as Democrats.

You are right.Equal time..I just caught this report on google news.

[BlueDenimLamp]

By Editorial Board

May 25 at 7:13 PM

HILLARY CLINTON’S use of a private email server while secretary of state from 2009 to 2013 has been justifiably criticized as an error of judgment. What the new report from the State Department inspector general makes clear is that it also was not a casual oversight. Ms. Clinton had plenty of warnings to use official government communications methods, so as to make sure that her records were properly preserved and to minimize cybersecurity risks. She ignored them.

The 83-page report declares that “beginning in late 2005 and continuing through 2011,” the department revised its Foreign Affairs Manual and “issued various memoranda specifically discussing the obligation to use Department systems in most circumstances and identifying the risks of not doing so.” Ms. Clinton didn’t.

During her tenure, State Department employees were told that they were expected to use approved, secure methods to transmit information that was sensitive but unclassified, or SBU. If they needed to transmit SBU information outside the department’s network, they were told to ask information specialists for help. The report said there is no evidence that Ms. Clinton ever asked, “despite the fact that emails exchanged on her personal account regularly contained information that was marked as SBU.” On June 28, 2011, a cable was sent to all diplomatic and consular posts over her signature warning that personal email accounts could be compromised and officials should “avoid conducting official Department business from your personal e-mail accounts.” At the time, Ms. Clinton was doing exactly that.

On March 11, 2011, an assistant secretary sent a memorandum on cybersecurity threats directly to Ms. Clinton, noting a “dramatic increase” in attempts to compromise personal email accounts of senior department officials, possibly for spying or blackmail. That didn’t stop Ms. Clinton either. There were also numerous notifications that some emails (but not all) are considered federal records under the law and that she should print and file those in her office and, before leaving office, surrender all emails dealing with department business. She did so only about two years later, in December 2014.

The Inspector General's office said on May 25 that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's use of a personal email account was “not an appropriate method” for preserving those emails. (Peter Stevenson,Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)

Starting in 2009, there was a new, electronic system, known as SMART, to properly archive department emails without having to print and file them, but Ms. Clinton opted not to use it, out of concern that there was “overly broad access to sensitive materials.” According to the report, after a staff member “raised concerns” with another official about Ms. Clinton’s personal email server, the staff was instructed “never to speak of the Secretary’s personal email system again.”

The department’s email technology was archaic. Other staffers also used personal email, as did Secretary Colin Powell (2001-2005), without preserving the records. But there is no excuse for the way Ms. Clinton breezed through all the warnings and notifications. While not illegal behavior, it was disturbingly unmindful of the rules. In the middle of the presidential campaign, we urge the FBI to finish its own investigation soon, so all information about this troubling episode will be before the voters.

Washington Post

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

You are right.Equal time..I just caught this report on google news.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, basically used her position as the DNC chair to fill as many positions within the DNC as she could with people supportive of Hillary thereby stacking the deck against Bernie.

[SisterNightroad]

Donald Trump signed off deal designed to deprive US of tens of millions of dollars in tax
Exclusive: US presidential hopeful Donald Trump signed off on a controversial business deal that was designed to deprive the American government of tens of millions of dollars in tax, the Telegraph can disclose.

[Wdm6789]

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad

Donald Trump signed off deal designed to deprive US of tens of millions of dollars in tax
Exclusive: US presidential hopeful Donald Trump signed off on a controversial business deal that was designed to deprive the American government of tens of millions of dollars in tax, the Telegraph can disclose.

Good for him.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the presidency just got harder with the release of the State Department inspector general’s finding that “significant security risks” were posed by her decision to use a private email server for personal and official business while she was secretary of state. Contrary to Mrs. Clinton’s claims that the department had “allowed” the arrangement, the inspector general also found that she had not sought or received approval to use the server.

Read the entire article at NY Times

You can bet that Donald Trump and the Republican campaign team will endlessly hammer Hillary over this...It might go something like this..."As Secretary of state "Crooked Hilary" significantly jeopardized the security of the United States by the using her private computer to e-mail sensitive government documents...She couldn't be trusted as SOS so how can we trust her as President"...Donald will also tell us that he has posted links to the Inspector Generals report on his web site...

[BombaySapphire3]

Bernie and Hillary have pulled to a statistical tie here in California ..I will be voting for Bernie in the primary and hope he wins big here.If he can't get the nomination then I hope Trump is right that Joe Biden will be drafted at the convention .If that happens Trump's chances will disappear like mist in the morning sun.

[Wdm6789]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Bernie and Hillary have pulled to a statistical tie here in California ..I will be voting for Bernie in the primary and hope he wins big here.If he can't get the nomination then I hope Trump is right that Joe Biden will be drafted at the convention .If that happens Trump's chances will disappear like mist in the morning sun.

The last thing we need is another corrupt democrat.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Wdm6789

The last thing we need is another corrupt democrat.

As opposed to a totally crazy pseudo -RepublicanI guess there could be a twisted fascination in watching Rome burn while Nero plays the fiddle.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Bernie and Hillary have pulled to a statistical tie here in California ..I will be voting for Bernie in the primary and hope he wins big here.If he can't get the nomination then I hope Trump is right that Joe Biden will be drafted at the convention .If that happens Trump's chances will disappear like mist in the morning sun.

Thats good news you will be voting for Bernie.one less vote for Hillary.I hope Bernie wins Cali. Also I think Mr Trump wont be going to disappear in the morning sun quite yet.Which I said before .The trickery and shenanigans at the RNC could pull the rug out from him and place some elite person in his place like which could happen with the DNC mentioned here.Mr Trump ,Mrs Clinton and Mr Sanders will be outside looking in if the DNC/RNC gets their way with the inside jobs they do and we will have a fresh new candidates for November.What a riot that would be.

Originally Posted by Wdm6789

The last thing we need is another corrupt democrat.

I agree .

[~*BellaDonna*~]

Can someone wake me up when the next president has been elected? That would be great. Thanks.

Did anyone catch the Office Space refrence?