Holy Crap--Over and Over Outro--Expanded Version

ryan4136 · #1 01-28-2016, 01:18 PM

Holy Crap this outro is really strong, the original fades away and lulls you, this version kinda slaps you in the face not expecting it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYFD...FHQofVCsyXsrNw

secondhandchain · #2 01-29-2016, 01:32 AM

I love it too. If you listen to the remastered album version you can here those vocals at the very end. I like both but I love the this new version. I wonder if hey should have left those vocals mixed in more with the other version.

Wdm6789 · #3 01-29-2016, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan4136

Holy Crap this outro is really strong, the original fades away and lulls you, this version kinda slaps you in the face not expecting it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYFD...FHQofVCsyXsrNw

This is the version of Over & Over they should have put on the album, except all the over and overs at the end should have been Christine with Stevie and Lindsey singing back up harmonies like they sang it live. In this outtake it sounds like it's just Lindsey singing the over and overs and it sounds weird that he's singing it and not Christine.

Macfan4life · #4 01-29-2016, 06:26 AM

Cool.
Some Mac songs sound better live and this is definitely one of them. In fact, I would say its #1 for their entire catalog that sounded better live.
I always thought the studio version sounds like Chris holding back on her vocals some. Its such a better song live for a million reasons.

Wdm6789 · #5 01-29-2016, 09:56 AM

I think the problem with a lot of the songs on Tusk is that Lindsey was more concerned with them sounding different than he was with them sounding good.

**jbrownsjr** · #6 01-29-2016, 10:56 AM

This version is sublime. I understand this song so much more with every live or outtake version I hear.

Christine and Lindsey did such amazing work together. I can see why he was so stoked about working with her again.

Makes me want that new album even more.

vivfox · #7 01-29-2016, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789

I think the problem with a lot of the songs on Tusk is that Lindsey was more concerned with them sounding different than he was with them sounding good.

What a load of crap. Lindsey put his blood, sweat & tears into making that album the masterpiece that it is.Every nuance of every song was carefully articulated during the 13 months of recording.People seem to forget there are 4 other people in that group and try to blame every bad thing on Lindsey. As the Producer he had to be a tad bit more serious than all the others. I'm sure that meant he couldn't allow himself to be as drunk or as high and that would make him come across as an Ayatollah to some, perhaps. But when you are steering the ship it is your job to make sure you stay on course while the rest of the crew has more time to catch some rays on the deck.

nicepace · #8 01-29-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Christine and Lindsey did such amazing work together. I can see why he was so stoked about working with her again.

Makes me long for a Buckingham McVie duo album.

louielouie2000 · #9 01-29-2016, 11:53 AM

Over & Over is one of my all time favorite Christine songs. The Live (1980) album version totally blows my socks off every single time I hear it. What a monster it was compared to the downright staid studio/album cut.

That's what has always made this song such an interesting study in contrasts to me- the lyrics are about starting a new relationship, and Christine having to pinch herself because it's such a dream come true. Yet the music is positively mournful. I guess maybe that's the genius of the song, though- it's capturing the anxiety and obsession of a new relationship, and the reality that it might not work out.

I kinda like how different the final album cut and the live renditions are, though. The album version is so solemn- almost like a private prayer; yet the song onstage just totally taps into those explosive feelings. Such a great song.

**jbrownsjr** · #10 01-29-2016, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Over & Over is one of my all time favorite Christine songs. The Live (1980) album version totally blows my socks off every single time I hear it. What a monster it was compared to the downright staid studio/album cut.

That's what has always made this song such an interesting study in contrasts to me- the lyrics are about starting a new relationship, and Christine having to pinch herself because it's such a dream come true. Yet the music is positively mournful. I guess maybe that's the genius of the song, though- it's capturing the anxiety and obsession of a new relationship, and the reality that it might not work out.

I kinda like how different the final album cut and the live renditions are, though. The album version is so solemn- almost like a private prayer; yet the song onstage just totally taps into those explosive feelings. Such a great song.

Wow! I love this analysis. It's so spot on and I never thought about the mournfulness of the music. Yet, it so fits the Tusk concept and Lindsey's vision. Again, making me understand how this song starts the album.

**jbrownsjr** · #11 01-29-2016, 05:57 PM

Can you guys hear the little extra guitar licks on the left channel... They are so beautiful... sometimes they float to the right channel...

BLY · #12 01-29-2016, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

What a load of crap. Lindsey put his blood, sweat & tears into making that album the masterpiece that it is.Every nuance of every song was carefully articulated during the 13 months of recording.People seem to forget there are 4 other people in that group and try to blame every bad thing on Lindsey. As the Producer he had to be a tad bit more serious than all the others. I'm sure that meant he couldn't allow himself to be as drunk or as high and that would make him come across as an Ayatollah to some, perhaps. But when you are steering the ship it is your job to make sure you stay on course while the rest of the crew has more time to catch some rays on the deck.

You nailed it on the head!

justcrazylove · #13 01-29-2016, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789

I think the problem with a lot of the songs on Tusk is that Lindsey was more concerned with them sounding different than he was with them sounding good.

What a load of crap, can you lay off with the Lindsey hate! That album wouldn't be what it is without him.

Wdm6789 · #14 01-29-2016, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

What a load of crap. Lindsey put his blood, sweat & tears into making that album the masterpiece that it is.Every nuance of every song was carefully articulated during the 13 months of recording.People seem to forget there are 4 other people in that group and try to blame every bad thing on Lindsey. As the Producer he had to be a tad bit more serious than all the others. I'm sure that meant he couldn't allow himself to be as drunk or as high and that would make him come across as an Ayatollah to some, perhaps. But when you are steering the ship it is your job to make sure you stay on course while the rest of the crew has more time to catch some rays on the deck.

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Originally Posted by justcrazylove

What a load of crap, can you lay off with the Lindsey hate! That album wouldn't be what it is without him.

I'm not hating on Lindsey. I'm making an observation. That is how I interpret Tusk after listening through it many many times.

Btw, the "what a load of crap" comment was a little rude.

BLY · #15 01-30-2016, 06:59 AM

Tusk has always been my favorite album since its release. After the release of this amazing box set its like I'm appreciating it at new level. What Lindsey did with Stevie and Christine's songs to fit in with his songs and vision was spot on. He was and is a master at his trade. I can't wait to hear what's next.