Fleetwood mac WILL record new album says stevie - Page 19

Missy · #**271** 01-20-2016, 07:55 PM

Could be right they are assuming an equal share, I have no way of knowing. But they shouldn't misrepresent things like that. Because they had both of them earning more income than Beyonce, who is supposed to be so powerful. Safe to say, they both did very well.

Even though I am primarily a Nicks fan (I listen to rock more than easy listening) I do respect Christine and think her contribution is just as valuable. She was the only reason why I bought a ticket last year. I don't go to concerts often it's a long way to travel. I didn't want to see the same show as 2004. But when I heard it was going to be all five, I wanted to go. When I got there I thought the crowd was a lot bigger than it was in 2004. In fact the scale of everything in general seemed bigger and it was a real buzz.

Some of my favorite and most memorable moments of the concert were Christine and she really gave a lot of energy all evening, which seemed to have also rejuvenated the others. It was great to see her come out from behind the keyboard to the front. I was in the front rows and thought she looked more like in her 40s. In my opinion, she deserves an equal share.

I've heard the Rolling Stones have very unequal payments. Despite being a very long term member, Bill Wyman said he was making more from his restaurant after he quit. But getting off track...

MikeInNV · #**272** 01-20-2016, 08:24 PM

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From what I've seen Forbes just goes by box office receipts, divides by 5, and guesstimates what people on their lists make. I wouldn't assume that Forbes is privy to what the internal contracts are about how that money gets divvied up within the band.

Yes, that article was about women in the music business who make a lot of money. Fleetwood Mac was a top earner last year, and there are two women in it, hence the women made a lot of money. I don't think it was an exact ranking.

michelej1 · #**273** 01-20-2016, 09:36 PM

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Well, to be fair, I recall it was Lindsey (according to Stevie) that didn't think Christine should be on Say You Will if she wasn't going to tour.

I know, I know. Not the same thing.

I don't think Stevie said Lindsey said that. She did say that he said Christine "can't just come and go" more recently, when they were doing their London show and Chris came up to sing Don't Stop (before we knew the band was discussing her permanent return to the fold) but she didn't say that he said that when they were doing the SYW album. Lindsey may have said it, but she and Mick didn't attribute their position to anyone in particular. Stevie was the one who said what if they used Chris' song and it turned out to be a hit and then they couldn't do it in concert.

Mick indicated that he heard Lindsey and Christine talking on the phone and wondered if Christine could really do something on the SYW album. So, I wondered about that phone call. But I don't think they specified who said she can't record and not tour.

Michele

KarmaContestant · #**274** 01-20-2016, 09:39 PM

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I don't think Stevie said Lindsey said that. She did say that he said Christine "can't just come and go" more recently,
Michele

Thanks! That is what I remember, I just didn't remember it correctly.

**jbrownsjr** · #**275** 01-20-2016, 09:44 PM

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Except it's just an opinion, and not one held by everyone.

I'd love a new Fleetwood Mac album as much as anyone else, but trash-talking Stevie's solo work isn't going to make it manifest.

Maybe when she finally does hit the studio, she can record a cover of that song by Talk Talk. "It's my life. Don't you forget."

I guess I'm just saying: Consider the fact that Stevie is not married to Fleetwood Mac. She has her own career, her own goals, and things on her own list to accomplish before she's done, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Now, if she'd just send Lindsey some damn demos to work on, we could put this all behind us.

Haha!! First off, I love that song. Secondly, my ears are bleeding just thinking of her singing it.

But, you're right it's her life and she's done well with her career.

I just wish she would explore her FM magic again rather than put out what I call crap. Her singing at the piano is god awful in my opinion. Her FM stuff is stellar in comparison.

bombaysaffires · #**276** 01-20-2016, 11:44 PM

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Yes, that article was about women in the music business who make a lot of money. Fleetwood Mac was a top earner last year, and there are two women in it, hence the women made a lot of money. I don't think it was an exact ranking.

agreed,but Forbes gave them some sort of ranking, and the original poster's point was that the article rated Stevie and Christine at the same rank (regardless of what that ranking was) -- implying they made the same money off the tour. We're simply saying it seems highly unlikely they made the same money. I don't think anyone is disputing whatever amount it was, it was a lot.

MikeInNV · #**277** 01-21-2016, 12:03 AM

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agreed,but Forbes gave them some sort of ranking, and the original poster's point was that the article rated Stevie and Christine at the same rank (regardless of what that ranking was) -- implying they made the same money off the tour. We're simply saying it seems highly unlikely they made the same money. I don't think anyone is disputing whatever amount it was, it was a lot.

Right. I'm guessing that Forbes figures that Stevie and Christine are 40% of Fleetwood Mac, so they probably used 40% of the band's haul to determine how they ranked as an entity in relation to the other women on the list. The implication that they made the same amount is just that, an implication. If anything, Forbes probably underestimated their take. It's certainly not an equal 5-way split, so Stevie and Christine's shares together would undoubtedly be more than 40% and maybe more like half.

Of course I could be completely wrong, and maybe Forbes has more inside info than I'm imagining.

Macfanforever · #**278** 01-21-2016, 12:53 AM

This seems backwards to me.

Mick Fleetwood and John McVie are the founders of FM.By right they should earn their part better then anybody else.

I cant picture Mick and John making 15 percent each.

SteveMacD · #**279** 01-21-2016, 01:17 AM

I still haven't seen any evidence that they don't split evenly between the five of them.

Last I read (Mick's first book), they're equal partners in the band.

HomerMcvie · #**280** 01-21-2016, 02:32 AM

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I just wish she would explore her FM magic again rather than put out what I call crap. Her singing at the piano is god awful in my opinion. Her FM stuff is stellar in comparison.

Sir, your definitions are spot on.

And she should STOP "playing" piano for the interviews. My Grandma plays better piano than Stevie...and she's been dead for years! It's truly embarrassing when she bangs out those F and G chords. Makes me wonder if "she" thinks she's good...ego and all taken into account...

mitzo · #**281** 01-21-2016, 06:47 AM

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Sir, your definitions are spot on.

And she should STOP "playing" piano for the interviews. My Grandma plays better piano than Stevie...and she's been dead for years! It's truly embarrassing when she bangs out those F and G chords. Makes me wonder if "she" thinks she's good...ego and all taken into account...

Got to agree with this. A real "WTF was she thinking?" deal.

James89 · #**282** 01-21-2016, 07:29 AM

Yes, I absolutely love Stevie but why she feels the need to attempt to play the piano I'll never know....

KarmaContestant · #**283** 01-21-2016, 01:16 PM

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Haha!! First off, I love that song. Secondly, my ears are bleeding just thinking of her singing it.

It would be awful.

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I just wish she would explore her FM magic again

Me too, but I sometimes wonder if there's really any magic left there. It wasn't on Say You Will (the songs were good, but they didn't really sound like Fleetwood Mac, in the way that Dreams or Gypsy or Sara sounded like Fleetwood Mac).

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Her singing at the piano is god awful in my opinion.

Thank goodness Lady was the only piano track on 24 Karat Gold, and it wasn't Stevie playing it. Maybe you don't have the album, but it wasn't a compilation of demos.

SteveMacD · #**284** 01-21-2016, 02:15 PM

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Me too, but I sometimes wonder if there's really any magic left there. It wasn't on Say You Will (the songs were good, but they didn't really sound like Fleetwood Mac, in the way that Dreams or Gypsy or Sara sounded like Fleetwood Mac).

That's been the case since TITN. Fleetwood Mac clearly became secondary for Stevie after "Mirage," and the proof can be heard on TITN, BTM, and SYW. I'd argue that she got out of those albums what she put in.

FuzzyPlum · #**285** 01-21-2016, 03:31 PM

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I've heard the Rolling Stones have very unequal payments. Despite being a very long term member, Bill Wyman said he was making more from his restaurant after he quit. But getting off track...

Well that would be fair enough. The 'Glimmer Twins' write all the songs so its only fair they get the bulk of the cash. I think Wyman barely wrote anything in the Stones. I think the suggestion he didnt make much might be a bit of an exaggeration.

One who I think was a bit hard done by was Rick Wright in Pink Floyd. He was made a salaried player after The Wall despite being an original member and significant songwriter.