Going Their Own Way (Sunday Times, 24th May)

[sue]

Originally Posted by gssmith

They should take a vacation after the tour. They will probably take 6 months off. People including band members that were talking about releasing the album in 2016 were so unrealistic. 2017 is more likely. I still think we will see an album in 2017.

Agree, they need 6 months away from each other. Go and spend some of the millions they've earned, spend some time with their friends and families..
Anything but see each other and think about ---getting into the studio---.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by sue

Agree, they need 6 months away from each other. Go and spend some of the millions they've earned, spend some time with their friends and families..
Anything but see each other and think about ---getting into the studio---.

But it would be a forced vacation for 4 of them. Only one of them is claiming to be tired and in need of a break.

[tabruns]

What comes through to me in this is just utter exhaustion from most of them, but particularly Nicks. Given some time off and rest I think the perspective could be different, maybe. I also think that whatever went down on Say You Will has apparently turned off Nicks from working under Buckingham-produced Mac for a long time.

In a way, from the way she sounds - and again, its clear she's really just very tired of the touring right now - I could see Nicks actually quitting Fleetwood Mac after this tour. She sounds that exhausted, Christine back or no. And if Mick is being honest about no Mac if not this Mac then what a shame, they'd be done.

Hopefully they'll finish the tour, take time off, let Nicks recuperate, and then pull it together for one great last double album.

[elle]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

But it would be a forced vacation for 4 of them. Only one of them is claiming to be tired and in need of a break.

exactly.

i'm amused how so many people keep reading the article with interviews from 5 people are extrapolating how they are all tired and exhausted even though 4 of them appear reinvigorated and want to forge on.

perhaps SN being tired of 4 of them has led to her giving a green light they can all talk about what is actually going on?

[turquoise5]

This article/interview just makes me sad....I understand Stevie wanting a break after a mammoth tour. But the prospect of her not being part of a new album, or being minimally involved like she was with Tango, just depresses my spirit. Why did the Mac stretch out their tour so long? In the U.S. they covered many cities twice...seems unnecessary and that it was done for the almighty dollar.

I wish they had recorded a new album before they started the tour, but of course, "yesterday's gone....."

[sue]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

But it would be a forced vacation for 4 of them. Only one of them is claiming to be tired and in need of a break.

I agree, Stevie is the only one who sounds to be exhausted, but I still think they need a break from each other........haven't these people got homes to go to?

[snroxman]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

I think you're ignoring the nuances of the situation. First of all, Stevie is partially to blame for the situation she's in. She has a say in what the band does and does not do and yet she seems to hold resentment in having to do this tour. Second I don't think people are complaining so much that There isn't an album being released imminently, so much as Stevie shows no interest in doing an album or writing songs for the band. She didn't last year before the tour when the rest were in the studio and she hasn't at any point since. She didn't say and has not expressed or implied at any point that she would be interested in doing a Fleetwood Mac album after she takes a break (Lindsey basically confirms this....she's not committed to doing a studio album at all). She's the reason there hasn't been an album since 2003 and she barely contributed to the 2013 EP and even with the return of Christine her stance on the subject still has not changed. So this isn't all about her situation right at this moment and that "she's tired and she needs some rest" because this has been going on for a long time. The rest of the band understands this and they all want to do it now. The fact that Christine's return didn't motivate Stevie one bit to get back in the studio with the band should be a concern. It may never happen with Stevie on board.

But all that aside they don't have all the time in the world. Time catches up to everyone.

Well stated!

She is partly responsible for this situation. She used the "Christine's not here" line for awhile, something no one dreamed would ever happen.

But then, Poof!!! The FMac machine worked its magic and Christine returned. One would think Stevie would have been thrilled. Reality - not so much. She might have been better off choosing something else with a lower chance of happening.

Now, if I'd only have bought lottery tickets when the whole subject of Christine returning came up.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by snroxman

But then, Poof!!! The FMac machine worked its magic and Christine returned. One would think Stevie would have been thrilled. Reality - not so much. She might have been better off choosing something else with a lower chance of happening.

I think, "when pigs fly" still works.

Michele

[SteveMacD]

Mick-New album and tour
John-Whatevet Mick wants
Christine-New album and tour
Lindsey-New album and tour
Stevie-I'm tired

Questions?

[wheart]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Mick-New album and tour
John-Whatevet Mick wants
Christine-New album and tour
Lindsey-New album and tour
Stevie-I'm tired

Questions?

Love this! So I think Stevie's been "tired" of Fleetwood Mac since the whole Say You Will album and tour unpleasantness went down. But it was a once every three year commitment so she dealt with it. In her mind she'll participate in the 2013 tour then bye bye FM for another three or four years, while she can do what she really wants to do: make another record with Dave Stewart and do some touring. But then Christine came back. This wasn't in Stevie's plans and I think she still trying to wrap her head around it. I don't think she's quite as overjoyed as she claims to be at Chris' return. I think she now feels trapped by this never ending tour and potential album, neither of which were part of her three year plan. I think what she's experiencing now is the clashing of two very strong forces: her loyalty to Fleetwood Mac (& Christine) and her desire to do what she truly wants to do. I believe she had the final years of her career very well planned out and then everything got completely and totally screwed up.

[sorcerer999]

"He and Stevie don’t get on. On stage, they act. Privately, no."

I think Lindsey is just as much to blame for Stevie's lack of interest in participating. He doesn't make the recording process enjoyable for her. It's "his way"..."his vision"...a fact that was painfully pointed out in the "Destiny Rules" Doc, and then again on in her own "In Your Dreams" Doc.

I don't want another Fleetwood Mac album that houses tension a la "Rumours". It's been done. If they are going to do one last record to bring everything "full circle", I'd much prefer happiness, harmony and fun in the same vein as the White 1975 self titled album.

If this isn't possible because of Stevie and Lindsey acting like spoiled children, then it's better Fleetwood Mac go on as a "foursome" and let Stevie go on with her own solo thing.

One can only hope this "sham" and "act" those two have been giving their audiences night after night will finally someday translate into a real life situation of mutual love and respect when they realize their shared history, success, and music is much more important than any petty "power plays" or "my ways!"

Just my opinion.

[lilyfee]

Originally Posted by wheart

Love this! So I think Stevie's been "tired" of Fleetwood Mac since the whole Say You Will album and tour unpleasantness went down. But it was a once every three year commitment so she dealt with it. In her mind she'll participate in the 2013 tour then bye bye FM for another three or four years, while she can do what she really wants to do: make another record with Dave Stewart and do some touring. But then Christine came back. This wasn't in Stevie's plans and I think she still trying to wrap her head around it. I don't think she's quite as overjoyed as she claims to be at Chris' return. I think she now feels trapped by this never ending tour and potential album, neither of which were part of her three year plan. I think what she's experiencing now is the clashing of two very strong forces: her loyalty to Fleetwood Mac (& Christine) and her desire to do what she truly wants to do. I believe she had the final years of her career very well planned out and then everything got completely and totally screwed up.

Well said.

[UndoingTheLaces]

Well, it couldn't possibly be Lindsey creating drama for publicity. No, he'd never do that.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

Well, it couldn't possibly be Lindsey creating drama for publicity. No, he'd never do that.

People always say things like this. Is there some famous example of them playing up drama when in fact there was none?

[UndoingTheLaces]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

People always say things like this. Is there some famous example of them playing up drama when in fact there was none?

He said in the Destiny Rules documentary that he intentionally plays up the Lindsey/Stevie romance and drama for the audience when they're on stage. I'd really rather see a good performance than see someone pretend to show feelings for someone they really don't like. And if he'd go that far I wouldn't be surprised if he played up internal drama to sell concert tickets or drum up interest in an album project.