So I just listened to Why for the first time.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

And they raised the key a whole step!

These days, the keys are dropping like Stevie's wig hair!

Hey now! She did a dance during GDW during the 12/6/14 Forum concert. I swear it looked like she was having a seizure, it was so weird. But I have to hand it to her, not one strand of hair fell out.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by Wdm6789

I think it might be the most beautiful Fleetwood Mac song. Even more than Sara.
Although, I would have rather them have a minute and a half instrumental at the end of the song than the intro they had.

I love that intro, and I love your post!

[bethelblues]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

And they raised the key a whole step!

These days, the keys are dropping like Stevie's wig hair!

Stevie wears a wig? That's news to me.

[gssmith]

Originally Posted by sorcerer999

I'm baffled as to why you ALWAYS have to insult or make a jab at Stevie on thread topics that have nothing to do with her. ALWAYS. It's getting pretty old.

Oh come on. Why let it bother you? Don't be like that. Homer is like the Homer from the Simpsons- a character you roll you eyes at. (No comedian has not been the clown. Haha sorry) I think he or she is funny. For example, just look at its profile picture. I think it tried to choose a pic that wasn't flattering to Stevie, but that pic is hilarious! The only reason why the pic seems to me to be an attempt to mock Stevie in a negative way is because the posts are usually negative. Homer is actually one of my favorite people to post. I really mean that. It's important to have diversity anyway! Yea I know Homer has some crazy ideas about why Stevie is this or that, but every now and then it does a good job of calling her out.
Also you have to sympathize with Homer. It is one of those Mac fans that try to claim they don't like Stevie because she has annoying die hard fans. That is a ridiculous reason to not like a star because A) what star doesn't have die hard fans? Even a commoner like myself has a few. Maybe Homer is a Lindsey die hard? B) I'm can almost guarantee Stevie thinks some of those die yards are nut jobs. The guys chasing me around are crazy because no matter how I try to tell them to F off, they still want the D. It's not my fault or Stevie's that people are crazy. If I was a really big Lindsey fan (I'm a fan, just not his number 1) I'd be a little jealous by the attention Stevie gets too. Jealousy is an extremely negative emotion that blinds people.
So don't hate on Homer! You have to be more understanding and relax.

P.S. Elle tends to be similar to Homer but Elle is not as funny.

[chiliD]

Yep...we've never met in person, but just from some of the interaction both here on The Ledge & FB, I think Homer & I'd be "peas from the same pod" (as how Christine once described John McVie & Eric Clapton). Which could possibly be hazardous to both of our healths.

And, as the long-time Ledgies can attest, I've had my time as the resident "Stevie basher" around these here parts...I've just seemed to have passed the torch on to the more astute & comedic parties.

[SteveMacD]

I think fans of the band's overall career get annoyed by the overly self-important comments Stevie, and to a lesser extent Lindsey, make on a fairly frequent basis, and get equally annoyed when the band's history that didn't involve Stevie and Lindsey is so quickly dismissed by Stevie and/or Lindsey fans.

[chiliD]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I think fans of the band's overall career get annoyed by the overly self-important comments Stevie, and to a lesser extent Lindsey, make on a fairly frequent basis, and get equally annoyed when the band's history that didn't involve Stevie and Lindsey is so quickly dismissed by Stevie and/or Lindsey fans.

Right on, brother!

(although, I wouldn't really say "lesser extent" regarding Lindsey. He's almost been MORE dismissive than Stevie of anything Fleetwood Mac related that didn't involve him.)

[bethelblues]

He's just passive-agressive since Peter Green especially has a sterling guitar god reputation that's really picked up in the years following the 60s and early 70s. And arguably, Green is the best guitar player the band has had. Certainly contributed incredible material.

How can you not poke fun at Stevie and Lindsey? They are such characters. Even diehard fans must recognize that they say some pretty laughable things...and repeat themselves and contradict themselves. "Lindsey's an artist...I did the cleaning and cooking," yeah ok nods head haven't heard that before lol.

[sasja]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Yep...we've never met in person, but just from some of the interaction both here on The Ledge & FB, I think Homer & I'd be "peas from the same pod" (as how Christine once described John McVie & Eric Clapton). Which could possibly be hazardous to both of our healths.

And, as the long-time Ledgies can attest, I've had my time as the resident "Stevie basher" around these here parts...I've just seemed to have passed the torch on to the more astute & comedic parties.

Count me in with ChiliD's and Homer 's astute observations

Keep the snark coming, you guys!!

[Dreamz19]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

The middle, transitional period of Fleetwood Mac circa 1970-1974 (Kiln House, Future Games, Bare Trees, Penguin, Mystery to Me and Heroes are Hard to Find) is so fascinating and beguiling. Each album has its own unique dimensions, containing lots of unsung sonic treasures.

When I first got into FM (through Stevie), FM quickly became one of my favorite bands. However, the middle period really helped in cementing them as my favorite band of all-time. A treasure is a great way to describe it. I felt like I was unlocking a lost treasure the first time I heard Bob Welch singing Hypnotized.

[Dreamz19]

Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott

When I met Mick at a book-signing recently I asked him about Why and if they might perform it again. I'll never forget his incredulous reaction when I told him there was a video on youtube of them doing it in 1976. A studio re-working would be great, too.

It's just a sublime track. The crazy thing about the studio verstion is that only about a minute and a half of it is taken up by vocals, but somehow you don't notice this.

It's all too late now, and the music industry has moved on, but I so wish there had been a compilation album in the 80s and 90s of the best of the Bob Welch years. It might have opened the doors to this era for so many people. It's always annoyed me that this period has either been ignored (the Very Best of Fleetwood Mac) or under-represnented (the Chain-25 years) on official compilations. I suppose we can only blame the label and Stevie, Lindsey and Chris for this (unless Clifford Davis has some kind of unseen legal influence).

Induct Bob! Play Why!

I agree. This period of the band is so criminally underrated, but its one of my favorite eras of FM. Such a shame that Bob Welch did not get the credit he deserved. His one of my favorite members of FM.

[Dreamz19]

Originally Posted by chiliD

It was my experience (Forum, 11/28) that there were people walking in & out throughout the concert. About 3 or 4 just in my row alone. JEEEZ, people...do you have THAT bad of bladder control? Do you really need TWO MORE beers before the next song? Sit your a$$es down, watch & listen...is it really THAT much to ask? After all, you paid through the nose for your tickets.

I saw the same in D.C. Constantly seeing people getting up and leaving for drinks and whatever else. A group behind me sent someone to get beers during every song it seemed. They got so hammered and then almost got into a fist fight with a guy behind them.

[gssmith]

People getting up and down, up and down is so much worse at sport games then concerts. I never really noticed it too much at concerts maybe because I'm always so focused on the live show.

Christine is the reason why I explored the pre Rumours era and that is some of the best music nobody has ever heard. Too bad classic rock radio only plays the same old hits over and over.

[aleuzzi]

The Sausalito version of Why from the 1974 soundboard/radio show is incredible, not least of all because of Welch's incredible electric guitar work throughout. He really understood the song and maneuvered very well through it. Obviously the album version will always be associated with Weston, who did a great job with it, but Welch's version shows him to be a very deft guitar player with considerable range. He could go from the Peter Green-influenced solos on the cover songs to some really incredible jazz chording and atmospherics on his own tunes. But then you hear him ripping away through Why and Believe Me and you realize he possesed many sounds and had an enormous, criminally-underrated talent. John McVie in particular was fond of his playing, and even spoke highly of it in an interview in 77 or 78.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by chiliD

Yep...we've never met in person, but just from some of the interaction both here on The Ledge & FB, I think Homer & I'd be "peas from the same pod" (as how Christine once described John McVie & Eric Clapton). Which could possibly be hazardous to both of our healths.

And, as the long-time Ledgies can attest, I've had my time as the resident "Stevie basher" around these here parts...I've just seemed to have passed the torch on to the more astute & comedic parties.

Yeah Steve, we are peas from the same pod.

And I HONESTLY feel badly when sensitive Stevie lovers get upset with my comedic bashing. I really do(that's why I hadn't responded to the above complaint). I do think that she's a joke, but I respect others willingness to worship her. I wish I could make my jokes without others getting offended, but alas...