Nicks says she doesn't know whether she'll ever be on board with new FM album - Page 10

Angie1980 · #**136** 11-14-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dex

*shrugs* Stevie often talks about how she was left idle for long periods of Fleetwood Mac's recording sessions because she "isn't a musician". Those are her own words, and they are the truth. She simply isn't a core force in the band's sound and music because she isn't a musician. The other members are. That's not to say she doesn't work damn hard, it's just a reality of her job which she is very matter-of-fact about. It was a perfectly fair comment for PenguinHead to make.

Fair enough and you are right it is a fair comment to make. I should have been a little more precise.... I was mostly thinking about the period of time since Christine left the band and I am not saying that Stevie is the ONLY lead singer... But, in my opinion, since Christine left FM has put out ONE studio album (not counting the EP) but done several tours and taking that into consideration I still don't think Stevie is less worthy "wearing the crown" than anyone else. That is my opinion.

Can't help but wonder what the reactions would have been if it were Lindsey not wanting to put out an album.....

SteveMacD · #**137** 11-14-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

But Mick does...If Stevie stands her ground and FM (Mick) has to make a decision between keeping Stevie in the band ( no record ) and continuing the "cash cow tours" or parting ways with Stevie and putting out a record and playing smaller venues at reduced ticket prices what option do you think the band (Mick) will choose?

What if Christine and Lindsey stand their ground and Mick has to decide between doing a new album and tour and that Stevie is in or she's not, or they walk? Which would he choose, a Stevie-less Fleetwood Mac that still has Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham or no Fleetwood Mac?

olive · #**138** 11-14-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

But Mick does...If Stevie stands her ground and FM (Mick) has to make a decision between keeping Stevie in the band ( no record ) and continuing the "cash cow tours" or parting ways with Stevie and putting out a record and playing smaller venues at reduced ticket prices what option do you think the band (Mick) will choose?

they could replace her with (ugh) sheryl crow to get even with her

SteveMacD · #**139** 11-14-2014, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Angie1980

Can't help but wonder what the reactions would have been if it were Lindsey not wanting to put out an album.....

Probably the same, especially since they've had to go there with Lindsey before. Lindsey has been told he's either in the band or he's not before, and the band threatened to use another producer in 1986 when he was stonewalling on doing TITN.

SteveMacD · #**140** 11-14-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by olive

they could replace her with (ugh) sheryl crow to get even with her

Or, they could just go on as a quartet again.

Dex · #**141** 11-14-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Probably the same, especially since they've had to go there with Lindsey before. Lindsey has been told he's either in the band or he's not before, and the band threatened to use another producer in 1986 when he was stonewalling on doing TITN.

This situation is different, though, hence people's frustrations. They could've given Stevie a similar ultimatum long ago, but they're not playing it that way and they simply won't. So we get stuck with a lot of "Oh hmm well we'll see I guess" from everyone. I'd really just like an actual answer so I can be excited about something.

ryan4136 · #**142** 11-14-2014, 12:17 PM

Do you think Lindsey really wants to do a FM album without Stevie?

Of course not, she has them by the balls. If Stevie isn't part of it, LB will just release more solo stuff. I'm guessing being a guest on LB's solo album would be enough to satisfy Chris.

If Stevie wants a new album, it'll happen, but until then it's still born.

SteveMacD · #**143** 11-14-2014, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex

This situation is different, though, hence people's frustrations. They could've given Stevie a similar ultimatum long ago

Could they have? This tour is establishing that Christine is back in the band for good. Without THAT being established first, the band really had no leverage with Stevie. Now that the public knows Christine is back, and has responded overwhelmingly to her return, Stevie leaving wouldn't be a fatal blow to the band's viability.

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Do you think Lindsey really wants to do a FM album without Stevie?

There's a difference between wanting to do something and being willing to do something. I think Lindsey would prefer to do a FM with Stevie, but would still do one without her.

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Of course not, she has them by the balls.

Not really. The band could easily go on as a quartet with only two of the three writers from the classic band, like they did when Christine was out of the band. Between Christine and Lindsey, it would be easy to replace Stevie's songs in the set (probably with new material). Lindsey's preference has always been for Fleetwood Mac to release new music, and now he has a partner in that.

michelej1 · #**144** 11-14-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gypsyrock

Totally agree with everything you said. Besides she hasn't exactly said no to it.

Her 'not exactly saying no to it', is part of the problem. When four people are trying to plan their lives and careers around your participation, you don't keep them dangling on a string. The others have been waiting and seeing what she's going to do since early this year.

You don't really want me, you just keep me hanging on ....

Stevie sounded ok when she sang that song, but you really shouldn't make it your personal motto.

But it comes down to their not letting her do this to them. I don't know how much money they're making this tour. I have to believe it's $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 each. They've profitted hugely already and don't need to fear alienating her. If that's not enough to get them to take a stand against this stonewalling, then they're getting just what they deserve.

They need to proceed without her and then look her up in 2017 and see if she wants to go on tour.

Michele

Macfanforever · #**145** 11-14-2014, 01:32 PM

Yes She and every one else in the the band has bill to pay.Stuff and cost of living is not cheap like it used too be.

Stevie and the band got pay their help.They dont work for free.

Please no more Rod tours.Towards the end of the tour it seem they were not getting along with each other and that outing blew her IYD release.

Sorry to say this.I dont know why we are getting hot and upset over this.

Meantime whos the boss of FM.Mick and John came to mind.Stevie helps too.They will decide what will happen.

michelej1 · #**146** 11-14-2014, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

There's a difference between wanting to do something and being willing to do something. I think Lindsey would prefer to do a FM with Stevie, but would still do one without her.

Right, everyone wants to do an FM album with her. That's been established already and Lindsey has said he's wanted to do that since he got off of the SYW tour. Desire hasn't gotten him very far. Christine's return gives him a new opportunity to do an album, as part of a new quartet. Hey, he'd have more songs on it. That certainly shouldn't be a turn off to him.

Stevie will be mad for a year or two, but I'm sure she'd get over it and then they could all do a whole batch of interviews about their reconciliation and put a new spin on this prolific, profound and tired story.

Michele

KenshiMaster16 · #**147** 11-14-2014, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

It's a form of applying peer pressure and bullying.

Like Stevie playing coy and noncommittal to an album just to possibly get her way isn't peer pressuring the band and bullying them to bend to her will? Yeaaaaaahhhhh suuuuure, whatever you say pal.

StreetAngel86 · #**148** 11-14-2014, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie W/Heart

^^^^

Plus she can drag her photo exhibition along with her

THAT'S when we can have our Q&A

**jbrownsjr** · #**149** 11-14-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetAngel86

THAT'S when we can have our Q&A

LOL.. that cracked me up...

Jondalar · #**150** 11-14-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

Like Stevie playing coy and noncommittal to an album just to possibly get her way isn't peer pressuring the band and bullying them to bend to her will? Yeaaaaaahhhhh suuuuure, whatever you say pal.

Get her way for what? You mistake being coy for being nice. She doesn't want to do the album. If she said so now the press would jump all over it.