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SaraRhiannon · #61 09-04-2003, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
Oh and one more thing. My files are so damn big, from WAY back and encompass several sites, and I did not need any additional space. You must have a small hard drive. Trying to compensate somehow?

Gypsy · #62 09-04-2003, 10:42 PM

Been away for a while, come back and... de can is open and de worms is a-crawlin' all over de place! Whew!
So, to educate the uninformed...
A. How do we know 'Pix' is 'Trin'?
B. If Pix is Trin, why is he posting here all of a sudden?
C. Is the Mick message board gone?
D. What the heck is going on with ousting JT?
E. What the heck is going on with fan club refunds?

Thanks for the info.
Love & Light (man, this place needs it!)
Gypsy

seeknpeace · #63 09-04-2003, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by SaraRhiannon

Damn, you my GIRL. hahaha. TY for bringing a good memory to me...That one got worn OUT over there. haha.. I liked it when you made it a marquee.

Smokin Joe · #64 09-04-2003, 10:43 PM

I see tunnel vision has become a real peoblem in this area. There is more going on in the concert/fan world than your war with the FM fan club. But, don't come here and have an opinion about anything. People are so paranoid here that anyone that isn't in the "IN" crowd is an enemy. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Tomorrow I will get up and have the same type of coffee and drive the same way to work and do the same things I did today when ever i feel like. You won't or can't change that, and, you sure as hell won't change me.

gldstwmn · #65 09-04-2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by SaraRhiannon

Sara, I love you!

seeknpeace · #66 09-04-2003, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy
Been away for a while, come back and... de can is open and de worms is a-crawlin' all over de place! Whew!
So, to educate the uninformed...
A. How do we know 'Pix' is 'Trin'?
B. If Pix is Trin, why is he posting here all of a sudden?
C. Is the Mick message board gone?
D. What the heck is going on with ousting JT?
E. What the heck is going on with fan club refunds?

Thanks for the info.
Love & Light (man, this place needs it!)
Gypsy

Hey, ok here is how. He has signed many of his posts with his name, so that is how we have known from the beginning. I don't think that he is ashamed of it or has kept it secret.

Why is he posting here? Good question. No, far as I know it is not gone yet. It is not active and a grave yard, but, not gone.

Damn I wish that I could answer that number d. So frustrating. I cannot. I can tell you that 480 ppl agree with JT needing to be gone and ppl sign the petition everyday. New fan club members find it eveyday and sign.

The refunds? I don't know if they will be forthcoming or not in the near future, but, if they aren't I am hopeful that something may be done for the fans. Not sure on that one though.

Cour · #67 09-04-2003, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Pix
What I was talking about as you accusing me of letting people say whatever the want... basically attacking users that they don't agree with. Which is exactly what has gone on here. Not as bad on this thread as some others, but it’s still here.

I have warned several users about going after others, and even if nobody wants to admit it they know it's true. Nobody goes after others now... I have stated many times that this is the job of the admins.

I am accusing you because that is what has gone on and still goes on over on that site. I think that TSK TSK TSK thread is still there, it was disgusting the way MissyRen was treated by that person over and over again and you did nothing to stop it, nothing! WHY? The double standard is that so many were thrown out for saying far less (and I don't need to hear who you threw out and who you didn't throw out). YOU saw so much of that attacking going on to people who had legitimate complaints and a right to be upset. This happened AFTER we were all thrown out and you did nothing to stop it. You can hardly compare the double standard over at your site the same as what happened h to you here. You have an avenue to complain here and could have used it but didn't, again that was your choice.

Where were we supposed to take our complaints about Jonathan Todd's actions and the way that site and the fanclub were being run. When we were banned from posting and from viewing the site, where should we have complained and where were you?

Where were you trying to help people here months ago during the presales when they couldn't get an answer from the club and weren't allowed on that site? Let's not forget that people actually paid money to be treated that badly.

Do you think there was a double standard when you made your comment about the LACK OF CIVILITY while we're watching your chosen members bash anyone who had a complaint and you sit by and leave the posts and don't ban the posters. You didn't have a problem leaving the nasty posts from the chosen bashers over there. Maybe it was to send a messsage to others who wanted to complain.

You joined the fanclub when we all did, you know darn well there was NO AGREEEMENT for you to view and accept. You KNOW that Jonathan Todd inserted that later and claimed it was there all along. He then went about changing it and revising it several times. Who should we have complained to about that after we were thrown out? Where were you saying this is wrong and I won't stand for it?

You want to talk double standards, you seem to have one set of standards when it comes to defending Jonathan Todd and condoning what he does and another that the rest of us should
live up to.

You wanted to start this dialogue, here it is. Answer the tough questions.

EDITED: It seems the TSK TSK TSK thread and many others have been deleted, isn't this shocking!!

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The Tower · #68 09-04-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy
So, to educate the uninformed...
A. How do we know 'Pix' is 'Trin'?
B. If Pix is Trin, why is he posting here all of a sudden?
C. Is the Mick message board gone?
D. What the heck is going on with ousting JT?
E. What the heck is going on with fan club refunds?

Thanks for the info.
Love & Light (man, this place needs it!)
Gypsy

I would love detailed answers to these questions, as well! After all this stink started up, I decided to go back to the FM.com site and see what wuz there- but there ain't nothin' there!! No BBS, no forum, no nothin'. It's all flash, but there's no content (not that there ever was that much to begin with).

Questions "A" & "B" aren't really an issue with me, but I'd love to know about "C" & "D".

Gypsy · #69 09-04-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by seeknpeace
Hey, ok here is how. He has signed many of his posts with his name, so that is how we have known from the beginning. I don't think that he is ashamed of it or has kept it secret.

Why is he posting here? Good question. No, far as I know it is not gone yet. It is not active and a grave yard, but, not gone.

Damn I wish that I could answer that number d. So frustrating. I cannot. I can tell you that 480 ppl agree with JT needing to be gone and ppl sign the petition everyday. New fan club members find it eveyday and sign.

The refunds? I don't know if they will be forthcoming or not in the near future, but, if they aren't I am hopeful that something may be done for the fans. Not sure on that one though.

Thank You, Seek.
And thank you for all your hard work in standing up for FM fans.

Gypsy

seeknpeace · #70 09-04-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by Smokin Joe
I see tunnel vision has become a real peoblem in this area. There is more going on in the concert/fan world than your war with the FM fan club. But, don't come here and have an opinion about anything. People are so paranoid here that anyone that isn't in the "IN" crowd is an enemy. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Tomorrow I will get up and have the same type of coffee and drive the same way to work and do the same things I did today when ever i feel like. You won't or can't change that, and, you sure as hell won't change me.

And you know what Joe? No one wants to. I am ok with a differing opinion, it is just that a lot of damage was done to the community by Pix and that crew. A lot of hurt and disappointment and it is not over and not forgotten. It settles hard when anyone wants to defend it or comdemn us for being upset for what was done to us individually and as a community. that is the whole of it.

No, don't change, and you are right about your coffee, and your life. This is an aside. But, it is still important to those that were hurt, offended and feel robbed to boot. Imagine now, if you have said how you feel and done what you felt you needed to on this board and you tried to sign on tomorrow and found out you were banned. NO one emailed you or told you or anything, just cut you off with no explanation, just the same blanket explanation for everyone banned. And, I can promise you that you will never, hopefully, ever find another board that has banned so many ppl so quickly for expressing their feelings and having unanswered questions anywhere. That is what Pix represents to us.

The Tower · #71 09-04-2003, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Smokin Joe
I see tunnel vision has become a real peoblem in this area. There is more going on in the concert/fan world than your war with the FM fan club. But, don't come here and have an opinion about anything. People are so paranoid here that anyone that isn't in the "IN" crowd is an enemy. And you know what? It doesn't matter. Tomorrow I will get up and have the same type of coffee and drive the same way to work and do the same things I did today when ever i feel like. You won't or can't change that, and, you sure as hell won't change me.

Well, I'm not paranoid and I'm certainly not a member of "The Ledgie 'IN' crowd" ....

I just trying to do some archaeology on how I lost $400.00. (I would put the "laughy" smilie here, but it's not that funny, is it?).

seeknpeace · #72 09-04-2003, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by Destiny
hmmm
You know seek I have had several attacks on my computer of late and given your outrageous behavior towards me and those from others here, I am not so sure those attacks havent come from this site.
Of course I don't know where they originated from but I am planning on having it investigated so if you aren't meaning to sound malicious towards me I just thought I would be nice and give you the heads up on that and to go easy on mention of my computer.

After all this is just debate I wouldn't want it to get really nasty.

::Falls on the floor laughing::

Honey, I would not know how to begin to mess with anyones computer. hahahahahaha.. that is not my field. I do not make websites nor am I a computer guru, so you have nothing to fear from me. Also, I have NOTHING to do with this site, so whatever you have on this site cannot be affected by this site. If you make that allegation, you are not accusing me but, someone who will not take this nicely.

And as for having it looked into? Good luck. I wish NO one to have done to their computer what was done to mine and my friends. And, there are just not a lot of efforts made by any of the agencies out there to work with it. Trust me, save yourself some time. I know.

seeknpeace · #73 09-04-2003, 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by The Tower
I would love detailed answers to these questions, as well! After all this stink started up, I decided to go back to the FM.com site and see what wuz there- but there ain't nothin' there!! No BBS, no forum, no nothin'. It's all flash, but there's no content (not that there ever was that much to begin with).

Questions "A" & "B" aren't really an issue with me, but I'd love to know about "C" & "D".

Hi Tower, the problems occured on the www.mickfleetwood.com site, not the FM one. We were promised a board on the FM one, but, never got one. Like so many other things. Also, you won't find a lot on Micks site as Jonathan Todd deleted all of it. He banned a ton of ppl and took all the threads down so that it was not readable and he would not have to prove why he banned us. It was basically for asking him questions that he wouldnot answer and then getting upset at him not answering and a lot of bitterness ensuing. Bad scene all the way around. And, the two admins, Trinity and Jackie, who are volunteer admins, contiunued the bannings and scoldings and so forth when JT went basically underground or away.

seeknpeace · #74 09-04-2003, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by The Tower
Well, I'm not paranoid and I'm certainly not a member of "The Ledgie 'IN' crowd" ....

I just trying to do some archaeology on how I lost $400.00. (I would put the "laughy" smilie here, but it's not that funny, is it?).

No, and to some it was tragic and heart breaking. We really aren't the In Crowd, we are the out crowd, I think. At least that is what we were told when we were banned and forbidden to read or respond to the things happening on the only site or board that the fan club ever made available to us.

But, just the same, welcome to the Ledge. It is really a great place to be and to be free.

David · #75 09-04-2003, 11:51 PM

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Originally posted by Pix
Thanks for the words, but now they will accuse you of being someone from Mick's board.

Actually, I'm the head moderator over at Mick's board, & I'm very happy to meet you!