Say You Will faves...Now and Then

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by secret love

Maybe Stevie dropped two of her new songs to piss Lindsey off...

How would that piss him off; what is the incentive? She's just doing a disservice to herself, and fans who want to hear a fresh set. If anything, Lindsey wouldn't care at all that there are two less Stevie songs he doesn't have to perform.

Exactly how many times was Destiny Rules performed? Correct me if I'm wrong, but was this only single performance of Running Through the Garden?
It's a shame, because both songs were fantastic on stage, and they got a rousing response from the audience.

Four new Stevie songs in a set is a respectable balance between old and new. I wonder why she reduced it to just two songs - Say You Will and Goodbye Baby? Decisions like that are very perplexing to fans, especially since they such solid performances.

[nicole21290]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Exactly how many times was Destiny Rules performed? Correct me if I'm wrong, but was this only single performance of Running Through the Garden?
It's a shame, because both songs were fantastic on stage, and they got a rousing response from the audience.

Running Through The Garden was only played the once in 2003 - Columbus (May 7). Destiny Rules was played in Columbus (May 7) and Pittsburgh (May 10) in 2003. It then came back in 2004 for the second US leg but only in Madison (May 8), Champaign (May 9), and Green Bay (May 12).

From the band tour report on the 13th May 2003 in Cleveland:

There was a slight set list change for this show, continuing the song/order alchemy in pursuit of the perfect set. The band placed Eyes of the World third, followed by Peacekeeper and then Second Hand News. Destiny Rules was dropped from this show. By most accounts this tweaking provided great pacing and was well appreciated.

And then on May 10th 2004 (Madison), Cory wrote:

Then out from the depths of the Buckingham Nicks era (and a brief, albeit glorious appearance on the FM Live album) came Don’t Let Me Down Again. That calls for pee your pants excitement in my opinion! It sounds great, and they played it at the first show in Madison. If you were at the Madison show, consider yourself lucky, because I think it will be leaving the set. Sadly, it seems it can’t find a place to fit in. It will be sorely missed, but at least I got to see it come to life, it was like a little piece of history...farewell Don’t Let Me Down Again, it was nice knowing you...sigh. But we’ve got Sara (big huge yay!), Destiny Rules (double yay!) and Red Rover (pass out from excitement yay!).

Then in her recap on the 16th of Greenbay/Nashville/Atlanta:

Okay, set list discussion. Don’t Let Me Down Again has in fact taken a permanent vacation, (insert expletive here), Goodbye Baby has been rehired, although I love the song, I kind of liked ending the show on a high note. Goodbye Baby is so sad! But I suppose it’s the logical follow-up to Songbird...I guess tradition is tradition. Destiny Rules got the boot, which I’m livid about. There are a few of us who have told Stevie we will not speak to her until they put it back in the set. (I think she knows that we work for her and that we have to speak to her, so she kind of called our bluff.)

[Keith]

Originally Posted by nicole21290

Running Through The Garden was only played the once in 2003 - Columbus (May 3). Destiny Rules was played in Columbus (May 7) and Pittsburgh (May 10) in 2003. It then came back in 2004 for the second US leg but only in Madison (May 8), Champaign (May 9), and Green Bay (May 12).
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They played "Destiny Rules" also at the DC show I was at. I remember loving it, but being disappointed that "Running Through the Garden" was dropped. A head scratcher to the drops.

[jcalzaretta]

It bums me out the two songs were dropped. Both came off excellent live. I would have loved to have seen them.

[Dragonfly]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Everybody finds out was my favorite then and now. The lyrics are incredible but the music is a symphony with so much going on. The music builds and builds and then explodes when everybody finds out. It should have been the first single from the album.

In 100% agreement with you!

This song is the one track on the album that could have been a smash as it sounded very current. I listen to this on my ipod most days and never tire of it, just wish they'd have done it live.

Also one of the most 'naughty' lyrics Stevie has ever written don't you think?

[bethelblues]

There was really no excuse for Stevie not to perform Thrown Down and Everybody Finds Out for that tour...probably her best two songs on the album. Those two plus Say You Will and either Destiny Rules or Running Through the Garden. There, 4 new songs.

[kak125]

I agree! When the album came out I was thinking that Thrown Down and Everybody Finds Out would be so amazing live and I was disappointed they never made it into the set list. I think Stevie just didn't want to go all out on Everybody Finds Out and I think performing Thrown Down would have just been too hard for her.
I will say the Say You Will tour tops all of them for me I think because of all the new songs. It was refreshing to hear new music from them and to see the amount of energy they had on stage and I loved the Stevie/Lindsey interaction. I feel that is one thing missing from their performances now its like they are purposely distancing themselves from each other.

[bethelblues]

This is what the 24-song set should have looked like. Why write new songs and make an album if you're not going to play it...that's the only way an audience will hear and learn new songs:

1. I Don't Want to Know
(In hindsight, they should've dropped The Chain...the Chain was broken, wasn't it? But they thought Christine was gone for good, so they couldn't permanently retire it)
2. Dreams
3. Second Hand News OR Blue Letter

4. Thrown Down
5. Peacekeeper
6. Say You Will
7. The Ledge (Need a Lindsey Tusk song that's not the title track...I guess if Stevie needs Rhiannon, replace this one or Come, but believe it or not, she did NOT have Rhiannon in the opening night set)
8. Come

9. Gypsy Acoustic OR Sara (she wore red!!!!)
10. Crystal DUET
11. Big Love
12. Red Rover
13. Landslide

14. Running Through the Garden (This sounded great!!)
15. Bleed to Love Her
16. Beautiful Child
17. What's the World Coming To
18. I'm So Afraid
19. Everybody Finds Out (there's the Stevie fast song, not Stand Back)
20. Tusk
21. Go Your Own Way

Encore
22. Don't Stop
23. Say Goodbye

24. Goodbye Baby (OR do this for encores: Gold Dust Woman, Don't Stop, and end with Say Goodbye)

[He's So Unusual]

I loved Illume, Steal Your Heart Away, Miranda, Thrown Down and Destiny Rules from the moment I heard them and still love them to this day. I've warmed to Silver Girl and Running Through the Garden over the years, but I definitely prefer the '80s demos. I still don't like Murrow Turning Over in His Grave. Say You Will (the song) is still very twee.

[bethelblues]

Can I just say I'm really digging John's bass work in Everybody Finds Out. It gives the song its great groove. Thanks you guys for turning me onto that song.