Standing at the stage - On with the Show tour

[ThunderHappens]

Just curious what the experience has been like for fans being allowed up to the stage on this tour, so far. I know it seems to be different at each venue.

How many rows have been allowed up?

Are others on the floor allowed to move up to the empty seats/rows while the original occupants are at the stage?

How has security been on this subject? Strict? Relaxed?

I know this has been discussed in date-specific threads, but I thought it would be nice to have a dedicated thread for people to share and discuss their experiences on this. So please do!

[Eugene]

My observation in Philadelphia was that there is a security person sitting in the aisle around the 3rd row, thus preventing anyone sitting beyond that point from getting to the stage.

[kak125]

In Pittsburgh for the floor sections 2 & 3 they only let up the first row but for section 1 floor they let pretty much anybody up there. I was super pissed about it (I had 3rd row in section 3) because I think it was due to a guy in a baseball hat in the front row of section 2 that was complaining to security on our side for about 20 minutes before the show. I have no idea why he cared though. Total jerk!
The last 2 shows in Pittsburgh security was so lax and nobody cared about anything but this time they were jerks pretty much the entire time.

[loverly13]

At MSG they said that their policy was first three rows could rush because after that, the band hand selected other people they wanted at the stage. I ended up running up the aisle from row 17 and into the third row of the center section, where I climbed over the seat in front of me and worked my way over to the aisle.

[Boston Steve]

I don't like the concept of allowing people to "rush the stage". I had front row seats which I paid for and was forced to stand up for the whole show- people standing where my seat was spilled stuff all over my seat and ruined one of my autographed pictures from MF. I am probably in the minority here but if someone buys a seat in the front row- they should be entitled to sit in it occasionally and not be obstructed .People with seats in the 4th row on have their seats downgraded by having three extra rows of people standing in front of them. If the band is so concerned about the "real fans" getting close then make the ticket prices less expensive and do away with VIP packages platinum seats, etc. Last year at Jones Beach people were in front of me- I went form the 6th row to the 10th row with all the extra people- and I paid for a platinum seat. There were people standing in the aisles- a fire hazard and general overall lack of respect for the purchaser of the ticket/Finally if this type of "festival seating" is a practice then it should indicated as such on TM where tix are purchased- otherwise when one buys a ticket in the 4 row- and really sees the show from the 8th row- then the customer, not knowing at the time of purchase this could happen has been defrauded. The tix are "Reserved Seats", not "General Admission".

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by Boston Steve

I don't like the concept of allowing people to "rush the stage". I had front row seats which I paid for and was forced to stand up for the whole show- people standing where my seat was spilled stuff all over my seat and ruined one of my autographed pictures from MF. I am probably in the minority here but if someone buys a seat in the front row- they should be entitled to sit in it occasionally and not be obstructed .People with seats in the 4th row on have their seats downgraded by having three extra rows of people standing in front of them. If the band is so concerned about the "real fans" getting close then make the ticket prices less expensive and do away with VIP packages platinum seats, etc. Last year at Jones Beach people were in front of me- I went form the 6th row to the 10th row with all the extra people- and I paid for a platinum seat. There were people standing in the aisles- a fire hazard and general overall lack of respect for the purchaser of the ticket/Finally if this type of "festival seating" is a practice then it should indicated as such on TM where tix are purchased- otherwise when one buys a ticket in the 4 row- and really sees the show from the 8th row- then the customer, not knowing at the time of purchase this could happen has been defrauded. The tix are "Reserved Seats", not "General Admission".

I have to agree and disagree. Honestly, I think all seats she vary in price by location, and if they all did letting people rush the stage would be unacceptable. However, technically (aside from platinum seats) all floor seats have the same face value. Someone in the very back row pays the same as someone in row 1. This of course doesn't always hold true when you factor in "platinum seats" and sites like stubhub.

[Boston Steve]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

I have to agree and disagree. Honestly, I think all seats she vary in price by location, and if they all did letting people rush the stage would be unacceptable. However, technically (aside from platinum seats) all floor seats have the same face value. Someone in the very back row pays the same as someone in row 1. This of course doesn't always hold true when you factor in "platinum seats" and sites like stubhub.

I think many floor seats do vary in face value price. Perhaps you know, but for those who don't , Platinum seats are sold on Ticketmaster by most artists. (not stub hub or a ticket broke site) and the only way to get a front row seat was to got to the M&G ( which was very good). I had a "front row VIP package" My ticket - which I got from will call- has a price of $750 on It- far from most floor seat face value price.

[elle]

Originally Posted by Boston Steve

I think many floor seats do vary in face value price. Perhaps you know, but for those who don't , Platinum seats are sold on Ticketmaster by most artists. (not stub hub or a ticket broke site) and the only way to get a front row seat was to got to the M&G ( which was very good). I had a "front row VIP package" My ticket - which I got from will call- has a price of $750 on It- far from most floor seat face value price.

yes and if i pay that much (and possibly much more for platinums!), i'm paying that price so i can have my right to stand right at the stage.

so while you are paying the price to sit and watch, if i was willing to pay it, it would be so i can be sure to be able to stand at the stage (not at my front row seat) and watch. if i wanted to sit and watch in peace, i'd get a side seat at the stage. other than FM, i usually get that for most shows i go to anyway. sound is much better from there too.

[Boston Steve]

Originally Posted by elle

yes and if i pay that much (and possibly much more for platinums!), i'm paying that price so i can have my right to stand right at the stage.

so while you are paying the price to sit and watch, if i was willing to pay it, it would be so i can be sure to be able to stand at the stage (not at my front row seat) and watch. if i wanted to sit and watch in peace, i'd get a side seat at the stage. other than FM, i usually get that for most shows i go to anyway. sound is much better from there too.

I have no problem if you have a front row seat and want to stand at the stage in front of your seat- I agree with you; my issue is with those who do not have a ticket for the front row.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Boston Steve

I don't like the concept of allowing people to "rush the stage". I had front row seats which I paid for and was forced to stand up for the whole show- people standing where my seat was spilled stuff all over my seat and ruined one of my autographed pictures from MF. I am probably in the minority here but if someone buys a seat in the front row- they should be entitled to sit in it occasionally and not be obstructed .

I agree with you completely. And keep in mind, people who are standing are not just standing, they are flailing around wildly, obstructing views with their cameras, elbowing those around them and everything else that is obnoxious under the sun. People always say they want to dance to the music. They can dance at home. When I'm at a concert, I want to SEE the performers in the flesh. I can't do that at home. Michele

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Boston Steve

I have no problem if you have a front row seat and want to stand at the stage in front of your seat- I agree with you; my issue is with those who do not have a ticket for the front row.

Yeah, let the first 3 rows go stand by the stage if they want, but ONLY those rows. Let everyone else stay back. Cordon them off. Tie 'em up. I don't care.

Michele

[Boston Steve]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Yeah, let the first 3 rows go stand by the stage if they want, but ONLY those rows. Let everyone else stay back. Cordon them off. Tie 'em up. I don't care.

Michele

No- I did not say "let the first 3 rows go stand by the stage if they want, but ONLY those rows"- I said if the concert is Reserved Seating- not general admission- your ticket entitles your to the space at your seat- not my seat.

[kak125]

I think what the Mac needs to do is to just sell say 50-75 general admission tickets at each show for people to stand at the front of the stage. They seem to want people at the front so I think if they did that then only those people would be allowed up there. I have gone to many shows like that and they just give you a wristband so they know that you belong there and aren't just trying to get up front. I think it would help a lot and then people wouldn't be so pissed off about it.
I've had front row and have also not had front row and have been allowed up to the front so I can see both sides of it. I do think what people need to realize is that just because they spent an insane amount of money on their ticket it doesn't give them anymore privileges than the person next to them that spent like 1/4 of the amount.
One more thing too I will say is if you want to sit at a rock concert and actually see the show then get the seats in the 100 level of an arena. DO NOT get floor seats. Everybody on the floor stands so please dont think you are going to make an entire section sit down because you dont want to stand.

[ejb1969]

Originally Posted by ThunderHappens

Just curious what the experience has been like for fans being allowed up to the stage on this tour, so far. I know it seems to be different at each venue.

How many rows have been allowed up?

Are others on the floor allowed to move up to the empty seats/rows while the original occupants are at the stage?

How has security been on this subject? Strict? Relaxed?

I know this has been discussed in date-specific threads, but I thought it would be nice to have a dedicated thread for people to share and discuss their experiences on this. So please do!

Security In Indianapolis was pretty cool. As long as the aisles were clear, they were okay and would just walk through occasionally and ask folks to return to their seats if things got too crowded. There were some older people sitting through the show, but everyone was kind and seemed to peacefully co-exist.

With respect to those who pay for Platinum seats, it is reasonable to expect to stand and is--in my opinion, it is not practical to expect fans that close to the stage at a rock concert to be seated and remain so. For those who have special needs (such as my fiance--who has some mobility issues), arrangements can be made in advance to accommodate. (Laura MacFan had a wonderful time at her first FM show!)

For the more genteel crowd--who were willing to spend the additional funds to see the show--those who want a more controlled, comfortable experience should consider a suite.

Again, I am sharing my experience and opinion only, and no disrespect is intended.

[Boston Steve]

Originally Posted by kak125

I think what the Mac needs to do is to just sell say 50-75 general admission tickets at each show for people to stand at the front of the stage. They seem to want people at the front so I think if they did that then only those people would be allowed up there. I have gone to many shows like that and they just give you a wristband so they know that you belong there and aren't just trying to get up front. I think it would help a lot and then people wouldn't be so pissed off about it.
I've had front row and have also not had front row and have been allowed up to the front so I can see both sides of it. I do think what people need to realize is that just because they spent an insane amount of money on their ticket it doesn't give them anymore privileges than the person next to them that spent like 1/4 of the amount.
One more thing too I will say is if you want to sit at a rock concert and actually see the show then get the seats in the 100 level of an arena. DO NOT get floor seats. Everybody on the floor stands so please dont think you are going to make an entire section sit down because you dont want to stand.

You make many good points in your post- the GA idea is a good one and FM may wish to consider it. I have no problem with a person who has a legitimate seat next to me to stand up near the stage, dance, sing, etc. If the ticket is a legitimate ticket for the same section and row then of course that ticket holder has the same rights as others in the section. People without tickets to the section/row do not have the same rights as one who has a legit ticket. And please do not misunderstand me- I do not prefer to sit an entire show. As a matter of fact I prefer to stand most of it. The problem with the current system is, if I went to sit down for one song, a person, without a legit ticket to the section and row will take my spot which I am entitled to.
I had stuff ruined because of some careless person spilled fluid on my bag of merchandise. I was not able to keep a eye on it nor go back to check on it.
I don't expect people in their appropriate seat to sit- Stand all they want! I don't want a seat to a "front row MF m&G package" to be overtaken nor by view blocked by people who do not belong there and have no right taking my space. If FM allows GA - then it should be clearly expressed at or before the time of purchase. Otherwise when people rush the stage from other sections or rows and get n front of those who paid- the people with a legit ticket in, say, row 4, now have three or four more rows of people standing in front of them. No other band have ever seen, in a reserves seating arena, allows this type of practice in the 35 + years I have been going to shows,. I am including, The Stones ( when they do not do GA), Bob Seger, The Eagles , Steely Dan, J Geils band,Roger Waters and many other groups.