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Old 08-28-2014, 03:28 PM
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I can see why some people find it too long and maybe repetitive. Personally I think it's the perfect length, the extra verse accentuates it's beauty I think if you really like the song, you're happy for it to go on and on and on...

And I'm also not bothered about whether it's right for the radio, it's in a different league from most of the crap they play.
Some of the songs on IYD were even more repetitive and not half as deep. I liked those songs, but I think this song touches a more emotional part of the brain and may stand the test of time better.
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Old 08-28-2014, 03:45 PM
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I agree with you completely about the EP version of Without You.could not even get through it once. but I don't think I could describe Lady as pleasant IMO it is more harrowing and gut wrenching a listen and really one of the most despondent things she has ever written.
I don't feel it as "harrowing and gut wrenching", but I have found after a few more listens, that I don't necessarily want to listen to it more than once at a time. It seems to suck the energy out of me. Someone said earlier that it made them feel like being quiet. I think it does that to me as well. (Not to take anything away from the fact that it is pretty, just wistful and lonely as well)
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Old 08-28-2014, 03:55 PM
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Why is everyone on this board so grumpy! Just be happy you got this music, I don't feel "Lady" or ANY other song in Stevie's career is "Too Long" "Horribly Produced". "Lady" is just perfect to me and everyone just needs to chill out and enjoy the music.
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Old 08-28-2014, 04:06 PM
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Why is everyone on this board so grumpy! Just be happy you got this music, I don't feel "Lady" or ANY other song in Stevie's career is "Too Long" "Horribly Produced". "Lady" is just perfect to me and everyone just needs to chill out and enjoy the music.
I'm not grumpy, I'm happy to have this music, I think "Lady" is at least a minute too long and overly repetitive and would be more effective condensed, my production opinions tend to be atypical (e.g. I love OSOTM: production, vocals, lyrics, wardrobe, etc.), and I enjoy the music but am happy to share my opinion (and enjoy reading opposing opinions) whether I enjoy the music or not. I'm inclined to politely agree or disagree; like or dislike and state any or all or none of the above. In my opinion that's the essence and the beauty of The Ledge, but again, that's just my opinion. Thanks for sharing and letting me share! Ricoh

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Old 08-28-2014, 04:38 PM
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The Hollywood Reporter did a piece on 24 Karat, but it's just the same language we've read earlier from the press release.



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ew-solo-720937
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Old 08-28-2014, 04:53 PM
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The Hollywood Reporter did a piece on 24 Karat, but it's just the same language we've read earlier from the press release.
Lame! I wish she'd just do new interviews (at the very least, via phone) and expound a little bit more on this project. I think Rolling Stone is the first time we've heard anything else other than the..."demos taken from my home", "fastest I've ever recorded", "these songs are for you" statements that EVERY media outlet has repeated and rehashed these past three months.

I'm chomping at the bit to hear more details. Why she picked these certain songs, why she wanted to record just old demos instead of new stuff, and I wanna hear a little more about each song.

We're a little over a month out from this album dropping. At this stage in the game, a month before IYD dropped, we'd read so many news articles about the project. Even if a lot of her statements were a little repetitive (the "Lennon/McCartney" writing team comparisons) we still had learned a lot more info about the songs, the recording process, the videos, the documentary and much more.
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:46 PM
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With everyone saying “Lady” is too long, I made an edit from it. It is not edited out from the end (the end is the best part) I hope you like it!

http://fleetwoodmacfans.tumblr.com/p...long-i-made-an

You can't even tell where I made the edit but the song is down to about 3 minutes long.
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:30 PM
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I found it interesting that "Lady"'s original title was indeed Lady, rather than Knocking On Doors. Does anyone know if the alternate title that we've always known is a fan-generated title, or did it come from somewhere else?
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:05 PM
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CHILL, Jondalar! It has nothing to do with right or wrong and EVERYTHING to do with personal tastes and opinions.

I agree that A LOT of Stevie's tunes are way too long. I'm right there with you on "Annabelle Lee" - it does just go on forever and ever...the "my life, my life...I lie down" part. It's like SHUT UP already, Stevie! LOL

However I LOVE the extended "Planets" and "Gypsy". Are they long? Yep. Are they TOO long? Nope. Just my own personal opinion.
I like the coda of "Annabel Lee" because I get carried away by the music. I love how increasingly passionate Stevie gets, and how Mick's drum flourishes keep changing up. Without the coda "Annabel Lee" would be a fairly boring song (to me), with it, it's epic.
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:06 PM
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Nope. You are just wrong. Almost half of the songs on IYD were too long. Annabel Lee was no more epic than this song. Lady is more meaningful however and sinks in a little deeper.
I'm not wrong, you just disagree.
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Old 08-28-2014, 09:08 PM
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I love the longer songs. One of my pet-peeves is when the tracks are faded too early.

Jondalar - There's just NO WAY Moonlight, or Annabel Lee is too long. I'll agree with Ghosts Are Gone - it could have been edited right off the album.

Lady is just right to my ears.
Oh yes! Like "Beautiful Child"....I really really really really wish they didn't fade so quickly when Stevie does those two long "ahhhhhh" notes.
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:26 AM
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I think the edit of Lady is just right for me (even if I like the original) it is less repetitive and it sounds great

http://fleetwoodmacfans.tumblr.com/p...long-i-made-an
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Old 08-30-2014, 12:57 AM
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Flavorwire By Jillian Mapes on Aug 29, 2014

http://flavorwire.com/474947/the-5-b...-ariana-grande

Stevie Nicks — “Lady”

Stevie Nicks’ forthcoming album, 24 Karat Gold (out Oct. 7), had her mining the past and recording songs she wrote decades ago. Simple, stripped-down piano ballad “Lady” sounds more like Nicks’ pre-Fleetwood Mac days than her recent albums, which is exactly what it is; the song previously surfaced as a Buckingham Nicks demo called “Knocking on Doors.” Listening to “Lady” and “Knocking on Doors” back-to-back points out the ways in which Nicks’ voice has matured: both are beautiful, but when the husky-voiced Stevie circa 2014 wonders aloud “what is to become of me,” it feels like wisdom instead of childish pitying.
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'Lady" is the most underwhelming, creative-free , nonsensically lame title for the song. "Lady" has no legs; a crappy monosyllabic word referenced in the verse, with more association with a popular Kenny Rogers song.

99.9% of people would listen to the chorus and assume that "'Knocking on Doors" is the title. And rightfully so, since that is the essential concept of the song.
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'Lady" is the most underwhelming, creative-free , nonsensically lame title for the song. "Lady" has no legs; a crappy monosyllabic word referenced in the verse, with more association with a popular Kenny Rogers song.

99.9% of people would listen to the chorus and assume that "'Knocking on Doors" is the title. And rightfully so, since that is the essential concept of the song.
Totally agree. Good song, bad title. Why doesn't she just call it 50 Shades of Grey to try to tie it into something popular like she did on the last album?
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