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Old 08-27-2014, 01:05 PM
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See, I think "Without You" is too long by about half a minute, because all Stevie & Lindsey are doing is "oohing," "ahhing" and "yeahing."
I think those oohs, ahhs and yeahs are better than the sung verses, so I definitely don't think those need to be cut.

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Old 08-27-2014, 01:15 PM
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Disagree. The length sometimes makes the song truly epic. Annabel Lee's coda is my favorite part of the song. Moonlight is about perfect. I also love the long versions of Gypsy and Planets Of The Universe.
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Nope. You are just wrong. Almost half of the songs on IYD were too long.
CHILL, Jondalar! It has nothing to do with right or wrong and EVERYTHING to do with personal tastes and opinions.

I agree that A LOT of Stevie's tunes are way too long. I'm right there with you on "Annabelle Lee" - it does just go on forever and ever...the "my life, my life...I lie down" part. It's like SHUT UP already, Stevie! LOL

However I LOVE the extended "Planets" and "Gypsy". Are they long? Yep. Are they TOO long? Nope. Just my own personal opinion.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:19 PM
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The lyrics are a bit repetitive, but I think it works, because there are different nuances each time she sings them.
Maybe it's rather the fact that most of you listened to nothing but that song during the last days.
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Old 08-27-2014, 02:03 PM
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The lyrics are a bit repetitive, but I think it works, because there are different nuances each time she sings them.
I agree that where you have a different nuance when you sing it, it is not monotonous, which is what I always say about Hold Me. But in the case of Lady, I think the point was that the repeated end is no different than the one before the break.

I was thinking of the oohs and aahs in Without Love and they add variation and interest in much the same way that I thought the vocal break down in the live version of Destiny Rules did. This (mercifully) broke the monotony, but I'm afraid in both instances it came too late in the songs to completely salvage them.

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Old 08-27-2014, 07:27 PM
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See, I think "Without You" is too long by about half a minute, because all Stevie & Lindsey are doing is "oohing," "ahhing" and "yeahing."
That's my favorite part of the song because it was the only new part added from the original. This was a song that was just begging for an updated sound and usually I don't like when demos get re worked but this new version sounds too much like the demo.
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:31 PM
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Did you order yours from the Australian store? I was overseas when the pre-orders started, so I only ordered mine last week. (And to tell you the truth, I'm not really sure what I've ordered but I knew damn well I wanted it!) Initially I didn't think I was getting any digital downloads with mine, and then The Dealer appeared in my inbox this morning, but still no Lady. I also don't seem to have an account with the store, even though I thought I did. So confused.
No. I ordered from the US site.
If you got to the WB and go to make an account
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:48 PM
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:54 PM
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I agree that where you have a different nuance when you sing it, it is not monotonous, which is what I always say about Hold Me. But in the case of Lady, I think the point was that the repeated end is no different than the one before the break.


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Well actually the end of Lady is a bit different she sings"Maybe you don't need to see" instead of "Lady you don't need to see"
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Old 08-28-2014, 04:29 AM
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See, I think "Without You" is too long by about half a minute, because all Stevie & Lindsey are doing is "oohing," "ahhing" and "yeahing." But, to me, "Lady" offers something essential in its final two minutes. While she may simply be repeating lyrics that had already come before, her voice is saying so much more. At least to my ears.
That's exactly how I think about it. The song builds up perfectly towards the end. It gets more emotional with every note.

It may be too long for radio play, but I must admit, I don't care about radio at all. Probably it won't get much airplay anyway, short or long.
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:53 AM
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Neither Lady and Without You are made for radio. They are too good of songs sung by people who are brilliant singing artists. The radio largely plays crap, **** that makes your ears bleed. It's sad, really.
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Old 08-28-2014, 08:53 AM
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Neither Lady and Without You are made for radio. They are too good of songs sung by people who are brilliant singing artists. The radio largely plays crap, **** that makes your ears bleed. It's sad, really.
Agreed. I barely listen to the radio these past couple of years because of that reason. Even the worst songs of our favorite artists are better than 98% of the music that is out there these days. IMO.

I don't think Lady is too long. It needs to build up to the end. Although I can see where people are coming from about the repetitive lyrics.
Is it just me or did anyone else wish she got even louder and maybe almost scream the words at the end of the song? Drive it into epicness!
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Old 08-28-2014, 12:45 PM
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Without You was terribly, terribly produced. It sounded weird - that's the only word for it. The so g itself wasn't bad; I thought it was quite nice live, and I love the demo. But he final version was awful. I don't know what the deal was with it.

Lady is long and repetitive but it's all so pleasant that I can't find it in myself to mind. It could be shorter, yes, but I don't really notice it being long because it's nice to listen to.
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Old 08-28-2014, 01:26 PM
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I can see why some people find it too long and maybe repetitive. Personally I think it's the perfect length, the extra verse accentuates it's beauty I think if you really like the song, you're happy for it to go on and on and on...

And I'm also not bothered about whether it's right for the radio, it's in a different league from most of the crap they play.
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Old 08-28-2014, 02:16 PM
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Without You was terribly, terribly produced. It sounded weird - that's the only word for it. The so g itself wasn't bad; I thought it was quite nice live, and I love the demo. But he final version was awful. I don't know what the deal was with it.

Lady is long and repetitive but it's all so pleasant that I can't find it in myself to mind. It could be shorter, yes, but I don't really notice it being long because it's nice to listen to.
I agree with you completely about the EP version of Without You.could not even get through it once. but I don't think I could describe Lady as pleasant IMO it is more harrowing and gut wrenching a listen and really one of the most despondent things she has ever written.
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Old 08-28-2014, 03:24 PM
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Without You was terribly, terribly produced. It sounded weird - that's the only word for it. The so g itself wasn't bad; I thought it was quite nice live, and I love the demo. But he final version was awful. I don't know what the deal was with it.

Lady is long and repetitive but it's all so pleasant that I can't find it in myself to mind. It could be shorter, yes, but I don't really notice it being long because it's nice to listen to.
I don't think it was terribly produced. What was he supposed to do with her voice? She didn't even sound interested in giving a good vocal. It's a really good, classic song - too bad.
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