She Loves Him Still

welcomechris · #1 08-08-2014, 10:15 AM

I've Always Loved this demo, I hope they have not changed it too much. It is so sweet, and I think it is about Lindsey

No one heard her call his name
No one heard the sound she made
They would not like it much anyway
To know that she still loves him

No one understands this love
No one ever will
'Til his dying day
Not even he himself can change this
She loves him still

I miss my friend
I miss the sound of his laughter
She remembers him saying, "Well, where are you going?
Just what is it that you are after?"

No one understands this man
No one ever will
'Til his dying day
Not even he himself can change this
She loves him still

So, how are you?
Have you learned to deal with it?
"Oh, no," she says, "No, I have not learned"
You see, I cannot deal without it
So the flame still burns
The flame burns on

No one understands this love
No one ever will
'Til his dying day
She was heard to say
She loves him still

And the sands of time like shattered glass go past her...
She still loves him
Oh, no, they would not like it much anyway
But she still loves him
And the sands of time like shattered glass go past her
Straight back to the sea

She still loves him

LISTEN Here (1984 Outtake)

I love how this closes the album!

bombaysaffires · #2 08-08-2014, 11:26 AM

I think it's about Joe. I think "they" would have been much more disapproving of her still loving him after the ****e way he treated her, but…there are so many men she's been with that we have no idea about

This one makes me most nervous.. there was such a vulnerability and fragileness to her vocal on the demo (take 1) that I just don't think post-rehab she can quite pull off now… but I hope to be proven wrong.

And whoever is playing the acoustic guitar on that demo is great-- reminds me of Lindsey's playing on the Rumours version of Silver Springs. I really hope they keep that arrangement too.

brickney723 · #3 08-08-2014, 02:41 PM

I've been thinking about this song- immediately I thought- it's either about Joe or Lindsey. That it was written in 1984 made me initially think it would more likely be about Joe.. however the lines "Well, where are you going? Just what is it that you are after?" are not questions I can imagine Joe asking Stevie given his later thoughts on their relationship… but they are definitely questions Lindsey would have asked her in the aftermath of theirs. Also, I think that the song closing out this album gives more credence to it being about Lindsey.

sorcerer999 · #4 08-08-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I think it's about Joe. I think "they" would have been much more disapproving of her still loving him after the ****e way he treated her.

I actually don't know very much about Joe & Stevie's relationship. How exactly did he treat her? And how long were they together?

brickney723 · #5 08-08-2014, 02:58 PM

Another thing I just thought of- "How Still My Love" and the lyric "they say you're not the man for me." She makes clear that song IS about Lindsey- "you go your way.. but you don't forget me." Also, Lindsey's made references in his music- clearly there may have been forces steering her away from him.

bombaysaffires · #6 08-08-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brickney723

Another thing I just thought of- "How Still My Love" and the lyric "they say you're not the man for me." She makes clear that song IS about Lindsey- "you go your way.. but you don't forget me." Also, Lindsey's made references in his music- clearly there may have been forces steering her away from him.

what do you mean she's made it clear it's about LB? because she says go your way??

honestly I think so many songs are about so many men we don't know. everyone was so sure Beautiful Child was about either LB or Mick and it turned out to be about the guy who worked for the Beatles no one knew about. Sleeping Angel was about Paul Fishkin…FWIW about her drummer friend… and on and on and on…. and since she and Paul were together a while I'd bet there are many more songs about him and what about Jimmy Iovine? Any song could be about him… and what about the engineer she went with during recording sessions for Rumours? She dated JD Souther for a short while, she was with Henley off and on for quite a bit, It's all a crap shoot.

bombaysaffires · #7 08-08-2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999

I actually don't know very much about Joe & Stevie's relationship. How exactly did he treat her? And how long were they together?

she says 83-85.

They hooked up when he was the opening act for her on The Wild Heart tour. She says they locked eyes across a crowded room and that was it and she went over and crawled into his lap right then and there in the hotel bar. He says they were monogamous throughout the tour but then after that….she apparently fell head over heels for him and thought he might be "the one" (I believe he's the one she's talking about in the song I Sing for the Things-- I'll take off my cape for you/I'll take down my hair for you/ANything you want me to do/My love/I'll sit home and wait for you") but he thought of it he says as just a road fling and kinda jerked her around for quite a while after that-- booty calls and then blowing her off for months. They were both mega coke addicts during this time.

brickney723 · #8 08-08-2014, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

what do you mean she's made it clear it's about LB? because she says go your way??

Ya, that's exactly what I mean! It's a clear shout out to him!

And I agree she's written about a lot of different men. I don't think Lindsey thinks so though- he's said their lyrics were always dialogues to each other.

brickney723 · #9 08-08-2014, 05:31 PM

One thing though.. just because you've been with a lot of different men in no way means every person you date becomes a muse. Just food for thought.

bombaysaffires · #10 08-08-2014, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brickney723

One thing though.. just because you've been with a lot of different men in no way means every person you date becomes a muse. Just food for thought.

see I think everything in Stevie's life is fodder for her songs. I think when she gets stuck, Lindsey is a reliable go-to source.

My point, seriously, though, is that she writes about everything and yes even a one-night stand can and probably does lead to her writing SOMETHING. She and Lindsey were together for a looong time so yes there is a hella lot more to draw from there in terms of song material, especially wistful kinds of stuff. But I think most of her can't-wait-to-see-you, midnight-plane, love that starts out in the darkness, secret love kind of stuff is NOT Lindsey but her affairs on the road and such. And there's been a LOT of those.

brickney723 · #11 08-08-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

see I think everything in Stevie's life is fodder for her songs. I think when she gets stuck, Lindsey is a reliable go-to source.

My point, seriously, though, is that she writes about everything and yes even a one-night stand can and probably does lead to her writing SOMETHING. She and Lindsey were together for a looong time so yes there is a hella lot more to draw from there in terms of song material, especially wistful kinds of stuff. But I think most of her can't-wait-to-see-you, midnight-plane, love that starts out in the darkness, secret love kind of stuff is NOT Lindsey but her affairs on the road and such. And there's been a LOT of those.

Yeah, but we're only talking about two songs- How Still My Love and She Loves Him Still. Just because I think they're about him doesn't mean I think every song is about Lindsey. I don't.

brickney723 · #12 08-08-2014, 06:26 PM

I mean I wouldn't jump to the conclusion if you think a couple of songs are about Joe Walsh, that u think every song is about Joe Walsh. (Who I actually, btw, think IS the love of HER life. )

wheart · #13 08-08-2014, 06:29 PM

I always thought this song was about Joe...not sure why, just a feeling. When I first heard it, it struck me very deeply...I don't even remember what was going on in my life at the time but I'm pretty sure it wasn't good so I related very much to the despair and longing of the lyrics. I can't tell you how happy I am that she included this. I didn't expect that she would. And I can honestly say I don't care how it turns out, as long as it's there. It can't sound like the demo, that is an amazing vocal but it will still be wonderful..."the flame still burns...the flame burns on..."

brickney723 · #14 08-08-2014, 06:33 PM

We should start a poll on all these songs. Joe? Lindsey? Other?

DauphineMarie · #15 08-08-2014, 08:23 PM

I say Joe with this one. But with what everyone was asking about Stevie and Joe's relationship, I remember in one interview saying he left her, after something that happened during the Rock a Little recordings... "When you hang up that phone baby, well you cease to exist." I also know Stevie said that if her and Joe had stayed together for much longer, they both would have died because of all the drugs and everything. That's what I think Mabel Normand's about, as well as just about everything from the Rock a Little master reels in demo form we have.