Interesting Chart Info

[sorcerer999]

I was just perusing the Discography section of Stevie's Wikipedia page, specifically the "singles" section with chart positions. I found some interesting info and chart positions for random songs and albums in other countries.

Some interesting things I discovered...

1. "Timespace" peaked at #30 in the US, but went all the way to #1 in New Zealand.

2. Three "non-singles" from "The Wild Heart" charted in the US Rock Category. "I Will Run To You" peaked at #35, "Enchanted" at #12 and "Nothing Ever Changes" at #19.

3. "Imperial Hotel" just barely got into the Top 100 charts in Australia, peaking at #99.

4. Both "Two Kinds Of Love" and "Blue Denim" failed to chart in any country.

5. Stevie hasn't charted at all in the US Top 100 in the last 20 years since "Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind" in 1994.

6. Stevie's music has now been relegated to charting in the US Adult Contemporary Category since 1994, with "Everyday" peaking at #17, "Sorcerer" at #21, "Secret Love" at #20 and "For What It's Worth" at #25. With Fleetwood Mac, "Silver Springs" from the Dance peaked at #5, "Landslide" at #10 and "Say You Will" at #17.

[BombaySapphire3]

It is pretty apparent that after the 1980s that Stevie and Fleetwood Mac were goners on the pop singles charts.The final top 40 pop showing by any of them was Save Me in 1990 coming in at a disappointing #30 where Fleetwood Mac's preceding studio album had produced 4 top twenty hit singles 2 of them hitting the top 5 plus hitting big on the singles charts all over the world.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

It is pretty apparent that after the 1980s that Stevie and Fleetwood Mac were goners on the pop singles charts.The final top 40 pop showing by any of them was Save Me in 1990 coming in at a disappointing #30 where Fleetwood Mac's preceding studio album had produced 4 top twenty hit singles 2 of them hitting the top 5 plus hitting big on the singles charts all over the world.

Lindsey left the group and his production was responsible for 70 percent of the groups success.

[BLY]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Lindsey left the group and his production was responsible for 70 percent of the groups success.

I think the new album is going to be HUGE. It will be like when the Dance was released.

[MacMan]

Landslide from The Dance reached NO.51 in August 1998 and Peacekeeper in 2003 reached No.80 on the Hot 100 Pop Charts. Don't know the numbers, but probably placed high on the adult charts of the time.

[atlnightbird]

Silver Springs went to number 41 in 1997 on the Hot 100

[welcomechris]

Originally Posted by atlnightbird

Silver Springs went to number 41 in 1997 on the Hot 100

Source? I Never Heard That

[PenguinHead]

It will be interesting to see, when Fleetwood Mac finally releases another album, how they will fare on the charts. I suspect upon initial release, the album will shoot up to the upper registers. But I wonder how the singles will do. I hope a solid Christine penned song gives them a top ten hit.

But at this stage in their career, just releasing a good album should be considered a success. They realistically can't compete with today's youth-based, targeted markets, nor should they try. Stylistically and otherwise, they are from a different world.

I've been a subscriber to Rolling Stone since the late seventies. I look at the charts now and the top 40 albums, and most of it is unknown to me. I might find one or two current artists on there that I follow (The Black Keys, for example), but most are just vaguely familiar or just outright unheard of.

Partly it's generational thing. Yet, as a child of the seventies, I was mostly intrigued and focused on the music of the sixties! There's good and bad music to be discovered in every generation. And some exclusive artists and bands transcend those generations. Fortunately, Fleetwood Mac is one of those bands.

[elle]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

It will be interesting to see, when Fleetwood Mac finally releases another album, how they will fare on the charts. I suspect upon initial release, the album will shoot up to the upper registers. But I wonder how the singles will do. I hope a solid Christine penned song gives them a top ten hit.

But at this stage in their career, just releasing a good album should be considered a success.

yes. i think that the question how will the album fair on the charts will largely depend on how good or crappy is their PR for it. it is entirely possible that it does pretty good, if placed and advertised right, and that would be nice to see.

as a comparison, when 2013 tour was announced they did that whole day of filmed interviews and it didn't do nearly as much for them as just one well-placed Today show interview did for the "reunion" tour.

for the EP, we know there was no advertising whatsoever. it did ok in the first few days just because it was featured as like a 3rd header/banner on the itunes. once when it was gone from the banner, plus with all the reviewer's complaints that it's not worth listening because there's barely any Stevie on it, it was all downhill. so if they do the same thing again (no advertising and depending on a word of mouth which can go either way), the results will probably be the same.

regarding the "singles," i don't see them getting a "radio play" or charting on any regular hot pop charts. they might on rock or [sadly] adult contemporary, but i'd be shocked if they have charting singles on the hot pop charts. i would be surprised if they expect it either, frankly. they don't need that anyway.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by elle

for the EP, we know there was no advertising whatsoever. it did ok in the first few days just because it was featured as like a 3rd header/banner on the itunes. once when it was gone from the banner, plus with all the reviewer's complaints that it's not worth listening because there's barely any Stevie on it, it was all downhill. so if they do the same thing again (no advertising and depending on a word of mouth which can go either way), the results will probably be the same.

regarding the "singles," i don't see them getting a "radio play" or charting on any regular hot pop charts. they might on rock or [sadly] adult contemporary, but i'd be shocked if they have charting singles on the hot pop charts. i would be surprised if they expect it either, frankly. they don't need that anyway.

I don't consider that under-cooked EP as anything significant. It was just a throw-away digital blip, made with very little effort. As such, those songs will disappear from memory and be buried in their history. It's mostly just a Lindsey project. Only Sad Angel has any redeeming quality.
The marketing of their upcoming album will be taken more seriously, and on a much larger scale in comparison to a rudimentary, rushed, under-produced four song digital compilation. Why did they even consider doing this? Were they pushed into it by their managers, or were they finally self aware enough to know that another oldies tour without anything new to offer made them look old, stale, stagnant and irrelevant?

The effort failed. They should have cleaned up and sweetened the the original demo recording of Without You. If they were fully committed, a new version would have been fine. Instead, a tepid, second-rate version of the song was hastily recorded for the world to compare to the original. It's not a flattering comparison.

[Musicman408]

I don't really see any singles charting - the Eagles had a GREAT selling album a few years back, but I'm pretty sure none of the tracks charted on the pop charts.

[elle]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Why did they even consider doing this? Were they pushed into it by their managers, or were they finally self aware enough to know that another oldies tour without anything new to offer made them look old, stale, stagnant and irrelevant?

yes, that was the point. Lindsey wanted new album out, same as now, since he wanted FM to stay relevant, show they still have something to say. when he couldn't get everybody in the band on that page, he wanted to have at least some new music out. his intentions seemed crystal clear from his little speech introducing Sad Angel during the tour. my suspicion is that EP ended undercooked and half-hearted effort because the whole band (managers too?) was not completely on board. other than various fan speculations, there is really nothing to tell us the whole band will be on board for the upcoming album, yet, either.

[elle]

Originally Posted by Musicman408

I don't really see any singles charting - the Eagles had a GREAT selling album a few years back, but I'm pretty sure none of the tracks charted on the pop charts.

agree. i would expect the same to be the best case scenario for any upcoming FM album.

[vivfox]

I just read today that at 57,000 copies sold in its first week, Mariah Carey's new album is considered a flop. If she can't have success, FM's chances are pretty slim.

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I just read today that at 57,000 copies sold in its first week, Mariah Carey's new album is considered a flop. If she can't have success, FM's chances are pretty slim.

Hi Viv! Don't count them out yet!

Let us hope the album will be an artistic achievement. Given the age of the band, and the state the music industry, I would hope they will have reasonable expectations about how the record will perform. The world/music business has changed so drastically since their heydays. I think they realize the reality of that.

The record will get a lot of media attention, if only for the fact the Christine is back. Unless Lindsey drags it down to the level of the EP, I bet the album will sell far beyond Mariah's dismal, initial release sales. (Do you always trust your first/initial feelings?)

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