should FM release the album without SN's songs?

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

I agree, but I think that her visibility helps FM, too. I don't think she intends to promote the band in any way, but it does. Inevitably they are brought up, or an FM song is played or referenced, etc. Heck, Lindsey even got a shoutout on American Horror Story thanks to Stevie letting them use her music. If you look into Stevie, you end up finding out about Fleetwood Mac.

Finally the voice of reason...

[elle]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

You keep saying that you're gaining respect for her and losing it for the others. Why are you gaining respect for her screwing over her band mates? I don't find it to be admirable. If you think the band should kick her out and you lose respect because they don't, fine. But I don't it's commendable what Stevie is doing. It's not like she's quitting the band and she doesn't want to. She's using them. She's more commercially viable with the band too, you know.

yes and that's why she's not cutting them off, and keeps bsing that FM will always come first for her and that she will never break up that band.

while i agree with you that what she's doing is not moral or ethical, they are all in business together (even if it is personal too, for at least some of them). and she's shrewd at it, and yes she's using them but even W said "fool me once......."

if they allow her to fool them and use them over and over again, then yes, i have a problem with them, i don't really care about her.


what you said reminds me of the story i've heard on the radio today - how some rising rock star's roommate was stealing from this guy's bank account (which he allowed him to use, since they were roommates, and he was helping him out). the dj on the radio commented how the rising rock star "is a moron" and i thought what? can't anybody be nice and trust friends these days? the roommate stealing should be judged, he was the one committing the crime, not the one who was being nice and helping him out.

[CreepingDeath]

Originally Posted by RockawayBlind

Thanks for taking the time to update us on why you don't come to the board anymore, which actually required coming to the board to do.

You're welcome.

I only decided to come back here when I heard Christine was going to be re-joining the band to get some information. Also, I thought I would check out the boards to see if there was any improvement since I last posted a few years ago. Obviously not. At best it feels like a very bad soap opera. Too bad. It used to be a fun and interesting place.

[BlueDenimLamp]

Originally Posted by CreepingDeath

You're welcome.

I only decided to come back here when I heard Christine was going to be re-joining the band to get some information. Also, I thought I would check out the boards to see if there was any improvement since I last posted a few years ago. Obviously not. At best it feels like a very bad soap opera. Too bad. It used to be a fun and interesting place.

Just bitter Lindsey fans now...

[nicole21290]

Originally Posted by elle

yes and that's why she's not cutting them off, and keeps bsing that FM will always come first for her and that she will never break up that band.

while i agree with you that what she's doing is not moral or ethical, they are all in business together (even if it is personal too, for at least some of them). and she's shrewd at it, and yes she's using them but even W said "fool me once......."

if they allow her to fool them and use them over and over again, then yes, i have a problem with them, i don't really care about her.

what you said reminds me of the story i've heard on the radio today - how some rising rock star's roommate was stealing from this guy's bank account (which he allowed him to use, since they were roommates, and he was helping him out). the dj on the radio commented how the rising rock star "is a moron" and i thought what? can't anybody be nice and trust friends these days? the roommate stealing should be judged, he was the one committing the crime, not the one who was being nice and helping him out.

I'm sorry but really, Elle? We're now comparing the situation (of which we don't know much) to an actual crime committed by someone who's a user and can't be trusted? You're talking about her like some Machiavellian villain!

Why are you assuming FM are being 'fooled'? Why are you assuming they need her in the studio for the two weeks she's in Nashville anyway? Why are you assuming a lot of things? It's getting ridiculous, making ethical and moral judgments on Stevie because she happens to be in Nashville right now instead of LA recording with the band. We don't know the actual situation or what they've talked about or what stage they're up to of recording. We know what they let us know and that's IT unless you have some kind of insider knowledge or ability to read Lindsey's mind. Truly, the conclusions being leapt to here, and the assumptions being made by some people are just mind-boggling to me.

At the moment we seem to have these general three ways of thinking or a combination a lot of the time and it drives me mad:

1) WTF!? She’s been whining for yrs about wanting Chris back, she comes back, and Stevie buggers off down to Nashville for a solo project!? Damn her. Hope the rest of FM dump her selfish ass and do a record without her.

2) YAY!!! Lindsey always ruins her songs now anyway so I’m glad she’s back working with Dave - I like when working is a pleasant experience for her and she doesn’t need that darkness. YAY FOR MORE SOLO WORK.

3) I JUST WANT A FLEETWOOD MAC ALBUM WITH ALL FIVE. WHAT DID I DO WRONG TO DESERVE THIS F*CKERY!? :/

No, we don't have an exact precedent for this situation and I think a lot of the frustration comes from thinking this is going to destroy those initial hopes for a really good, united with-all-five-members band effort. I just think that perhaps people should relax a little bit. Wait and see before making judgments that Stevie's morally bankrupt, that she's using the band without a care, etc.

And no, Lindsey will NOT be putting out a Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie. It's just NOT going to happen, no matter how you hard you wish...

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Just bitter Lindsey fans now...

Yeah, it's not really going to get better. If anything it's going to get worse. To paraphrase, "You should have turned around and ran, as fast as you can."

Michele

[nicole21290]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Yeah, it's not really going to get better. If anything it's going to get worse. To paraphrase, "You should have turned around and ran, as fast as you can."

Michele

Well, Lindsey was content to wear the mantle of 'troublemaker' for the SYW album. I guess it's Stevie's turn...

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Just bitter Lindsey fans now...

The only bitterness coming from this Lindsey fan (Stevie fan as well) is that we're not getting a solo album from him as well!

Honestly, if I had to choose between a new solo albums and tours from both Lindsey and Stevie versus a tour with Christine, I'd choose the albums...

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by nicole21290

Well, Lindsey was content to wear the mantle of 'troublemaker' for the SYW album. I guess it's Stevie's turn...

I wonder what Christine thinks. I was reading John's old comments today and he was saying how mellow everything was in 2003. So, Christine was probably thinking, "Oh everyone is so mellow now. It will be a lot different than it was in the old days ..."

Michele

[sodascouts]

None of the poll choices reflect my feelings, so instead of voting I'll just post...

I believe that as long as Stevie is a member of Fleetwood Mac, they should not release an album without her on it. If they want to release an album without her because they feel she is making them wait too long, they should ask her to leave the band first (or to put it more bluntly, fire her) and go back to having a four-member Fleetwood Mac, only with Christine instead of Stevie. Simple as that.

Plus, if they choose to wait, it doesn't mean they have to sit on their thumbs. Lindsey and Christine can work on solo projects if they've got extra time, or do a "Buckingham McVie" album - whatever they want. Just don't call it "Fleetwood Mac" unless it has all the band members on it.

However, I fully expect it all to work out; I fully expect to get a Fleetwood Mac album with all five members in 2015 regardless of whether or not Stevie (or Lindsey for that matter) do solo work on the side. If that turns out not to be the case, THEN I'll get my blood pressure up. Until that point, though, I'm chill.

[michelej1]

I want an album and I want it BEFORE the next leg of the tour, not after and I don't want to hear that it might come after too, because that "maybe we'll do an album after the tour" NEVER pans out and it will just distress me to hear them say it.

Also, I want a full album and not an EP. And my plan of action is to be angry until I know what I want is going to happen and then if and when it does occur, I will be angry about something else. Or even if I'm not technically angry, I like to complain anyway. So, I'll continue on that course.

Michele

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Just bitter Lindsey fans now...

Well, enjoy the the bitterness of the Lindseyfans. You won. Congrats.

[ryan4136]

Just release a new album called...

"Buckingham McVie"

and see how quickly Stevie comes running over to stop that, and make that an all 5 FM album.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by ryan4136

Just release a new album called...

"Buckingham McVie"

and see how quickly Stevie comes running over to stop that, and make that an all 5 FM album.

hahahahaha!!! At least the album would be good!

[ryan4136]

Damn good