The New Album Thread - Page 22

Jondalar · #**316** 02-11-2014, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290

I assume it was found here. Anon source/s on the FM News site.

http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com/2014...l#comment-form

The way Hit and Run is described makes me think of Sweet Girl; I danced across the stages of the world. If that is the case, I think I'll pass.

I pray that she comes up with something that makes sense and is not self-indulgent.Hopefully, she cowrites them with Dave.

louielouie2000 · #**317** 02-11-2014, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

Hopefully, she cowrites them with Dave.

Not sure I dig that idea- that's fine if she wants to cowrite with him solo, but this is Fleetwood Mac. It would just seem bizarre & inappropriate for Stevie to be writing songs with Dave with the rest of the band just sitting by. I can only imagine the amount of tension that would cause, too. Stevie just needs to try a clean slate with Lindsey & even Chris now that she's back. Surely now that she's let her guard down for Dave, she can do so with her bandmates of nearly 40 years. I for one would LOVE to see Stevie & Chris cowrite.

KarmaContestant · #**318** 02-11-2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Not sure I dig that idea- that's fine if she wants to cowrite with him solo, but this is Fleetwood Mac. It would just seem bizarre & inappropriate for Stevie to be writing songs with Dave with the rest of the band just sitting by. I can only imagine the amount of tension that would cause, too. Stevie just needs to try a clean slate with Lindsey & even Chris now that she's back. Surely now that she's let her guard down for Dave, she can do so with her bandmates of nearly 40 years. I for one would LOVE to see Stevie & Chris cowrite.

This is one reason I find the Tom Petty "stolen song" story so unbelievable, as told by Stevie. It's difficult for me to believe that Mick, John, Lindsey and Christine would commit to tape an entire track they had no part in writing. Don't you think they'd cringe, just a little bit, at putting a Petty track on a Fleetwood Mac album?

Jondalar · #**319** 02-11-2014, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Not sure I dig that idea- that's fine if she wants to cowrite with him solo, but this is Fleetwood Mac. It would just seem bizarre & inappropriate for Stevie to be writing songs with Dave with the rest of the band just sitting by. I can only imagine the amount of tension that would cause, too. Stevie just needs to try a clean slate with Lindsey & even Chris now that she's back. Surely now that she's let her guard down for Dave, she can do so with her bandmates of nearly 40 years. I for one would LOVE to see Stevie & Chris cowrite.

That would be nice. "You can't fix this" won't cut it on a fleetwood mac album. I thought she reverted back to her old self which was not comforting.

BlueDenimLamp · #**320** 02-11-2014, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar

Hopefully, she cowrites them with Dave.

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Not sure I dig that idea- that's fine if she wants to cowrite with him solo, but this is Fleetwood Mac. It would just seem bizarre & inappropriate for Stevie to be writing songs with Dave with the rest of the band just sitting by. I can only imagine the amount of tension that would cause

Christine wrote multiple songs with Eddy Quintela which were recorded by FM and put on Tango so if Stevie wants to do the same with Dave Stewart she can...

Christopher · #**321** 02-11-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Christine wrote multiple songs with Eddy Quintela which were recorded by FM and put on Tango so if Stevie wants to do the same with Dave Stewart she can...

Exactly! People like to nail Stevie to a cross for co-writing, but conveniently forget Christine was the first to begin bringing co-written tracks to FM starting wth "Hold Me" way back to "Mirage" and continued to do so on every studio record since (including her solo records.) I don't mind Stevie co-writing at all, especially if it yields results as it did on In Your Dreams. Dave seemed to bring out Stevie's A game and their collaborations got Stevie out of her Am/F/G chord rut. In the end what matters most is that the songs are great.

BlueDenimLamp · #**322** 02-11-2014, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher

Exactly! People like to nail Stevie to a cross for co-writing, but conveniently forget Christine was the first to begin bringing co-written tracks to FM starting wth "Hold Me" way back to "Mirage" and continued to do so on every studio record since (including her solo records.) I don't mind Stevie co-writing at all, especially if it yields results as it did on In Your Dreams. Dave seemed to bring out Stevie's A game and their collaborations got Stevie out of her Am/F/G chord rut. In the end what matters most is that the songs are great.

If you listen there are quite a few songs on IYD that have a bit of an FM thing to them (little bits here and there) so I don't see any reason why Stevie couldn't write with someone else as long as they wrote them with FM in mind...

SteveMacD · #**323** 02-11-2014, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp

Christine wrote multiple songs with Eddy Quintela which were recorded by FM and put on Tango so if Stevie wants to do the same with Dave Stewart she can...

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Originally Posted by Christopher

Exactly! People like to nail Stevie to a cross for co-writing, but conveniently forget Christine was the first to begin bringing co-written tracks to FM starting wth "Hold Me" way back to "Mirage" and continued to do so on every studio record since (including her solo records.) I don't mind Stevie co-writing at all, especially if it yields results as it did on In Your Dreams. Dave seemed to bring out Stevie's A game and their collaborations got Stevie out of her Am/F/G chord rut. In the end what matters most is that the songs are great.

They've all been doing it from "Tango.." onward.

elle · #**324** 02-11-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

They've all been doing it from "Tango.." onward.

i was curious who are these all doing co-writes, so just for a reference (co-writes bolded, including Buckingham/McVie and other intra-band ones):

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Big Love" Lindsey Buckingham 3:37
2. "Seven Wonders" Sandy Stewart, Stevie Nicks 3:38
3. "Everywhere" Christine McVie 3:41
4. "Caroline" Buckingham 3:50
5. "Tango in the Night" Buckingham 3:56
6. "Mystified" C. McVie, Buckingham 4:08
Side two
1. "Little Lies" C. McVie, Eddy Quintela 3:38
2. "Family Man" Buckingham, Richard Dashut 4:01
3. "Welcome to the Room... Sara" Nicks 3:37
4. "Isn't It Midnight" C. McVie, Buckingham 4:06
5. "When I See You Again" Nicks 3:47
6. "You and I, Part II" Buckingham, C. McVie 2:40

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Skies the Limit" Christine McVie, Eddy Quintela 3:45
2. "Love Is Dangerous" Stevie Nicks, Rick Vito 3:18
3. "In the Back of My Mind" Billy Burnette, David Malloy 7:02
4. "Do You Know" C. McVie, Burnette 4:19
5. "Save Me" C. McVie, Quintela 4:15
6. "Affairs of the Heart" Nicks 4:22
7. "When the Sun Goes Down" Burnette, Vito 3:18
Side two
1. "Behind the Mask" C. McVie 4:18
2. "Stand on the Rock" Vito 3:59
3. "Hard Feelings" Burnette, Jeff Silbar 4:54
4. "Freedom" Nicks, Mike Campbell 4:12
5. "When It Comes to Love" Burnette, Simon Climie, Dennis Morgan 4:08
6. "The Second Time" Nicks, Vito 2:31

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Talkin' to My Heart" Billy Burnette, Deborah Allen, Rafe VanHoy 4:54
2. "Hollywood (Some Other Kind of Town)" Christine McVie, Eddy Quintela 5:43
3. "Blow by Blow" Dave Mason, John Cesario, Mark Holden 4:24
4. "Winds of Change" Kit Hain 4:26
5. "I Do" C. McVie, Quintela 4:25
6. "Nothing Without You" Delaney Bramlett, Doug Gilmore, Bekka Bramlett 3:06
7. "Dreamin' the Dream" B. Bramlett, Burnette 3:43
8. "Sooner or Later" C. McVie, Quintela 5:40
9. "I Wonder Why" Mason, Franke Previte, Tom Fuler 4:28
10. "Nights in Estoril" C. McVie, Quintela 4:45
11. "I Got It In for You" Burnette, Allen 4:08
12. "All Over Again" C. McVie, Quintela 3:32
13. "These Strange Times" Mick Fleetwood, Ray Kennedy 7:04

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "What's the World Coming To?" Lindsey Buckingham, Julian Raymond 3:47
2. "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave" Buckingham 4:11
3. "Illume (9–11)" Stevie Nicks 4:50
4. "Thrown Down" Nicks 4:02
5. "Miranda" Buckingham 4:17
6. "Red Rover" Buckingham 3:57
7. "Say You Will" Nicks 3:47
8. "Peacekeeper" Buckingham 4:10
9. "Come" Buckingham, Neale Heywood 5:59
10. "Smile at You" Nicks 4:32
11. "Running Through the Garden" Nicks, Ray Kennedy, Gary Nicholson 4:33
12. "Silver Girl" Nicks 3:59
13. "Steal Your Heart Away" Buckingham 3:33
14. "Bleed to Love Her" Buckingham 4:05
15. "Everybody Finds Out" Nicks, Richard Nowels 4:28
16. "Destiny Rules" Nicks 4:26
17. "Say Goodbye" Buckingham 3:24
18. "Goodbye Baby" Nicks 3:50

SteveMacD · #**325** 02-11-2014, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elle

1. "Talkin' to My Heart" Billy Burnette, Deborah Allen, Rafe VanHoy 4:54

This song originally appeared on Deborah Allen's 1994 album "All That I Am."

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6. "Nothing Without You" Delaney Bramlett, Doug Gilmore, Bekka Bramlett 3:06

This song originally appeared on Delaney Bramlett's 1975 album "Giving Birth To A Song" (which, BTW, had several songs written by Delaney Bramlett Billy Burnette). Bekka just changed the line "'Cause I'm such a lucky man" to "'Cause I hold the winning hand."

louielouie2000 · #**326** 02-12-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

They've all been doing it from "Tango.." onward.

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Originally Posted by elle

i was curious who are these all doing co-writes, so just for a reference (co-writes bolded, including Buckingham/McVie and other intra-band ones):

With the exception of the Buckingham/McVie penned tunes, that list of cowritten songs seems to prove to me that the Mac's songwriters are best without outside cowriters.