American Horror Story: Seven Wonders - Page 2

Christopher · #16 02-03-2014, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex

I thought the fact that she didn't record a new vocal for AHS didn't bode well, but maybe the renewed public interest in the song will be brought to the bands attention come rehearsal time and things will change.

Why mess with a vocal scorched with craggy spendor. Seven Wonders was the last torch vocal of Stevies caterwauling whirling dervish era. I think it could've been potentially a disaster & embarressment for Stevie to try to recreate that vocal. Heck, she even tried back in the day, after rehab, to improve that vocal, but everyone in the band agreed she couldn't top that 1st take w/ misinterpreted lyrics and all. That vocal is what makes that song - Stevie made the song her own. This is the rare Stevie cover that didn't matter to me at all that she didn't happen to write.
Besides, Stevie manifested her wish by reminding Ryan that she had recorded a song called "Seven Wonders" (which it seems Ryan forgot about). Stevie got to do the walk through she fantasized about. Drifting around Miss Robichaux’s Academy with her long black dress, high heel shoes, & top hat. "When I want something, I get it!"

KarmaContestant · #17 02-03-2014, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher

Why mess with a vocal scorched with craggy spendor. Seven Wonders was the last torch vocal of Stevies caterwauling whirling dervish era. I think it could've been potentially a disaster & embarressment for Stevie to try to recreate that vocal. Heck, she even tried back in the day, after rehab, to improve that vocal, but everyone in the band agreed she couldn't top that 1st take w/ misinterpreted lyrics and all. That vocal is what makes that song - Stevie made the song her own. This is the rare Stevie cover that didn't matter to me at all that she didn't happen to write.
Besides, Stevie got her manifested her wish by reminding Ryan that she had recorded a song called "Seven Wonders" (which it seems Ryan forgot about). Stevie got to do the walk through she fantasized about. Drifting around Miss Robichaux’s Academy with her long black dress, high heel shoes, & top hat. "When I want something, I get it!"

I think the only time she ever even came close to matching that vocal was the 1987 Fresno show.

Dex · #18 02-03-2014, 04:38 PM

Thanks, Michele, for giving me some insight into the whole written/recorded quote semantics. It makes a lot of sense to me now.

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Why mess with a vocal scorched with craggy spendor. Seven Wonders was the last torch vocal of Stevies caterwauling whirling dervish era. I think it could've been potentially a disaster & embarressment for Stevie to try to recreate that vocal.

I just find it completely bizarre to see her lip-sync to that vocal which sounds nothing like her current voice, which she used to perform two other songs only a few short episodes ago, so every viewer would be very familiar with it and likely find the discrepancy jarring. They could have used the studio track, and had her wandering around not lip-syncing. Or had her performing live. "Pretending" to sing a decades-old vocal is an inconsistency that seems hard to justify, unless they tried working out a new vocal and disliked it. Which is why my initial reaction was that it didn't bode well for adding the song to a 2014 live set. I'm not saying it won't be added to the set. I'm just saying that was my reaction to SW in the show.

Jondalar · #19 02-03-2014, 05:10 PM

I'm glad she lip-synched. The video wouldn't of been half as good.

One thing I noticed, music hasn't changed that much. Seven Wonders really didn't sound dated. I wonder if Lindsey worked on the track.

Seven Wonders contains one of Stevie's greatest vocals. After she croaked out Rhiannon and Has Anyone, she needed this.

Fannymac · #20 02-03-2014, 05:34 PM

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I believe Sandy was given the choice of... A) Keep quiet about the changes and let FM put 7W on the record and make a lot of money OR B) She could put 7W on her next solo record...

That's exactly what happened.....I was in the next room when they were having the conversation! (And, actually, it was "You can leave it on the album with Stevie's changes.....and make a ton of money!.......or you can keep it for yourself and release it the way you first wrote it."

It really was a no-brainer, one who's royalties I'm sure Sandy has been thankful for for years!

Jondalar · #21 02-03-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac

That's exactly what happened.....I was in the next room when they were having the conversation! (And, actually, it was "You can leave it on the album with Stevie's changes.....and make a ton of money!.......or you can keep it for yourself and release it the way you first wrote it."

It really was a no-brainer, one who's royalties I'm sure Sandy has been thankful for for years!

I just hope Stevie didn't get any royalties off it. She doesn't deserve them.

Fannymac · #22 02-03-2014, 06:03 PM

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I just hope Stevie didn't get any royalties off it. She doesn't deserve them.

Actually, ahe added a lot more lyrics to the song than she's given credit for! I think the main thing that Sandy was upset about was that she changed the title....."Aaron" had some special meaning to Sandy.

Jondalar · #23 02-03-2014, 06:16 PM

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Actually, ahe added a lot more lyrics to the song than she's given credit for! I think the main thing that Sandy was upset about was that she changed the title....."Aaron" had some special meaning to Sandy.

She didn't better the song. Adding Sara here and there actually hurt the song. She sort of stole the song.

Fannymac · #24 02-03-2014, 06:43 PM

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She didn't better the song. Adding Sara here and there actually hurt the song. She sort of stole the song.

I wouldn't say she "stole" the song....she was given a rough demo that was partially completed, and she added lyrics to it, changing the title as well. (Though, in all fairness, the cassette had no title on it, so Stevie had no way of knowing Sandy had titled it "Aaron").

MikeInNV · #25 02-03-2014, 09:31 PM

I'm hoping the renewed interest in the song will result in putting it back into the FM setlist. We know Lindsey will do Big Love. I'm sure Chris will do Everywhere, and possibly Little Lies as well. Stevie might as well have some Tango representation.

WildHearted · #26 02-03-2014, 11:09 PM

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One thing I noticed, music hasn't changed that much. Seven Wonders really didn't sound dated. I wonder if Lindsey worked on the track.

Seven Wonders is about as 80s as you can get. Heck, most of TitN is.

Not in a necessarily bad way (I love it, personally), but it definitely doesn't sound like a contemporary pop song. Maybe if you're listening to Haim... but otherwise, no.

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She didn't better the song. Adding Sara here and there actually hurt the song. She sort of stole the song.

I know this has been discussed and debated to death... but I'm still pretty sure Stevie is saying Aaron. I hear no 'S.' And it would make sense being that the song was originally titled 'Aaron.'

And of course Stevie gets royalties from the song. She has a co-writing credit and she's the recording artist. Unless she signed her rights to the song away (doubtful)... she's getting money off of it.

Phil · #27 02-03-2014, 11:37 PM

Stevie contributed "additional lyrics" to “Seven Wonders” and consequently, scored a co-writing credit. Regardless of her exact contribution, she is listed as co-author of the song. That is fact.

The version of "Seven Wonders" featured in AHS had the bridge/refrains edited out and seemed to be slightly remixed. I wonder if this constituted "reworking the song"? I know it seems lame, but it’s possible that’s all that was considered and a new recording wasn’t ever intended.

I agree that the lip-synching was a little strange, given that Stevie has not sung in that key for more than 25 years (especially when you consider that the original vocal recording had been sped up as well). She did seem more awkward in this scene than the earlier appearance. When Ryan Murphy described the opening as “a Stevie Nicks music video extravagaaaaanza!”, I foolishly got my hopes up for something special. Needless to say, I was mightily disappointed. That said, I'm glad the song was given attention and that it has charted on Itunes. This all could bode well for it's inclusion in the nex Mac concert tour.

StevieNicksfann · #28 02-04-2014, 09:46 AM

Well like I said it has always been one of my favorite Stevie songs ever and I hope the powers that be read this forum and communicate to Stevie how much we miss this song and would love to hear it live again in whatever key she would feel comfortable singing it in.

Fannymac · #29 02-04-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted

Seven Wonders is about as 80s as you can get. Heck, most of TitN is.

Not in a necessarily bad way (I love it, personally), but it definitely doesn't sound like a contemporary pop song. Maybe if you're listening to Haim... but otherwise, no.

I know this has been discussed and debated to death... but I'm still pretty sure Stevie is saying Aaron. I hear no 'S.' And it would make sense being that the song was originally titled 'Aaron.'And of course Stevie gets royalties from the song. She has a co-writing credit and she's the recording artist. Unless she signed her rights to the song away (doubtful)... she's getting money off of it.

I could never understand this talk about "Sara"......she is DEFINITELY singing "Aaron!!!"

Fannymac · #30 02-04-2014, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted

Seven Wonders is about as 80s as you can get. Heck, most of TitN is.

Not in a necessarily bad way (I love it, personally), but it definitely doesn't sound like a contemporary pop song. Maybe if you're listening to Haim... but otherwise, no.

I know this has been discussed and debated to death... but I'm still pretty sure Stevie is saying Aaron. I hear no 'S.' And it would make sense being that the song was originally titled 'Aaron.'

And of course Stevie gets royalties from the song. She has a co-writing credit and she's the recording artist. Unless she signed her rights to the song away (doubtful)... she's getting money off of it.

Speaking of HAIM.......listen to "The Wire"......I think FM could do a KILLER cover of it, especially now that Christine's back! And that would SO raise their "cool" factor!!!