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Old 01-11-2014, 07:30 PM
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Sad but true. Usually when an artist underperforms, that work fades into obscurity relatively quickly. But with TITN some of the worst work in her career is stuck on a widely popular and celebrated album. So many are exposed to it who are unlikely to be very forgiving. And on a repeat basis. Eesh.

In fairness, there's other schlock on that album which takes the heat off Stevie a bit. Unlike Rumours, Tango has a number of weak songs. Almost half the album actually isn't really particularly good.
I love Lindsey and Christine's songs. Family Man is a little schlocky and so is You and I, but their work is stellar.
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:04 PM
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To me it is a weird masterpiece from start to finish.
I feel the same way. I've professed my love for "When I See You Again" many times here in the past. The lyrics and Stevie's vocal convey such despondency and helplessness -- it's heartbreakingly beautiful.

It's never going to be everyone's favorite, and I completely understand why, but I'm so happy it exists. I also think it gives 'Tango' an emotional gravitas that it otherwise lacks.
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:44 PM
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I feel the same way. I've professed my love for "When I See You Again" many times here in the past. The lyrics and Stevie's vocal convey such despondency and helplessness -- it's heartbreakingly beautiful.

It's never going to be everyone's favorite, and I completely understand why, but I'm so happy it exists. I also think it gives 'Tango' an emotional gravitas that it otherwise lacks.
Yeah, it is the Stevie that you either get or not. Not everybody's taste. Frankly, I wish she had done more like WISYA. It is, to tell the truth, what brought me back to Stevie after a bit of a break when her solo work was just not working for me.
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Old 01-12-2014, 02:06 AM
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I'll acknowledge that the lyrics are weak, but the melody is just beautiful. The melody is always my favorite part of any song.
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:18 AM
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I am in the minority, but I love this song and I like Welcome to the Room Sara. I actually prefer both over Seven Wonders.
Me, too. Both are seriously intense.
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:21 AM
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This song is the ultimate Garbage Stevie Song.

Never deserved a demo. Shouldn't have been on an album.

It will forever be grist for all those who think she is a terrible songwriter. It was her at her worst vocally and as a writer. The Bottom Of The Barrel.
No. No. No. No. And no.
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Old 01-12-2014, 09:29 AM
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When I see You again is by far her worst Fleetwood Mac performance and should not have made it to the album, it baffles my brain when I hear the talk of leaving Silver Springs off Rumours but allowing something like this to make it to print makes no sense in that context. That said, when I think of the atmosphere and what she was trying to write, I can see potential in the concept but at the time, she could neither write, nor sing to the standard the song would have called for. Had she drawn on some of the lyrics from the chain demo, maybe it could've worked somehow.
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Old 01-12-2014, 01:39 PM
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At 17, I absolutely hated this song when it was released and continued to hate it for almost 30 years. At 45, and for reasons I am not sure yet, I love this song now.
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When I see You again is by far her worst Fleetwood Mac performance and should not have made it to the album, it baffles my brain when I hear the talk of leaving Silver Springs off Rumours but allowing something like this to make it to print makes no sense in that context. That said, when I think of the atmosphere and what she was trying to write, I can see potential in the concept but at the time, she could neither write, nor sing to the standard the song would have called for. Had she drawn on some of the lyrics from the chain demo, maybe it could've worked somehow.
Her vocal on this song is excellent, but this song is bland and boring and never belonged on a Fleetwood Mac. As far as it being her worst song, she recorded more bad songs like Freedom, Paper Doll, No Questions Asked and The Second Time.

No Questons Asked and Paper Doll were on Best of Fleetwood Mac albums and that is a tragedy. However, she also put the putrid, god-awful Desert Angel and Loves a Hard Game to Play on a Best of Stevie Nicks album.

Sometimes she is not dealing with a full deck. Best of albums are important because they sale for the long run and she should not put bad songs on them.
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Old 01-12-2014, 02:11 PM
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I love Lindsey and Christine's songs. Family Man is a little schlocky and so is You and I, but their work is stellar.
Add Mystified and the two Nicks songs to the list and you have my bad-almost-half-of-Tango down!

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Her vocal on this song is excellent, but this song is bland and boring and never belonged on a Fleetwood Mac. As far as it being her worst song, she recorded more bad songs like Freedom, Paper Doll, No Questions Asked and The Second Time.

No Questons Asked and Paper Doll were on Best of Fleetwood Mac albums and that is a tragedy. However, she also put the putrid, god-awful Desert Angel and Loves a Hard Game to Play on a Best of Stevie Nicks album.
Haha. I genuinely enjoy every single song you named. Except for Loves a Hard Game to Play, of course. But I don't deny Stevie isn't always the best judge of her own content. Affairs of the Heart is the only 90s-Mac-Stevie song that I really don't like.

One set of doors is the colour of hunnneyyyyyyyyy... Oh dear God it'll be in my head all night now.
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If from Tango through BTM, it is a world where Mystified, No Questions Asked, and The Second Time are on a bad song list ahead of Freedom, Affairs of the Heart, Family Man, You and I, Save Me.... down is up and night is day. I guess I just do not belong. Those are 3 of my all time favourite songs.
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Ghost Through The Fog: The Worst of Stevie Nicks

Docklands
When I See You Again
Love Is Like A River
Paper Doll
Jane (The Forgotten Chimpanzee Remix)
Street Angel
Freedom
Mirror Mirror
Somebody Stand By Me
Inspiration
Desert Angel (Operation Desert Shield Dance Mix)

@2014 Rhino Records
Produced and Remastered by Thom Panunzio

Rhino Records presents a stellar newly remastered compilation from the legendary Stevie Nicks. Featuring 11 kitschy tracks that fans hate to love, this unique compilation speaks to the deepest guilty pleasure. The cd includes Thom Panunzio's brand new remix of the Nicks classic "Jane". Dance producer extraordinaire Junior Vasquez provides remix production for "Desert Angel", a standout track that is sure to take the dance clubs by storm. Available on ITUNES and in stores on January 28, 2014.
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Ghost Through The Fog: The Worst of Stevie Nicks

Docklands
When I See You Again
Love Is Like A River
Paper Doll
Jane (The Forgotten Chimpanzee Remix)
Street Angel
Freedom
Mirror Mirror
Somebody Stand By Me
Inspiration
Desert Angel (Operation Desert Shield Dance Mix)

@2014 Rhino Records
Produced and Remastered by Thom Panunzio

Rhino Records presents a stellar newly remastered compilation from the legendary Stevie Nicks. Featuring 11 kitschy tracks that fans hate to love, this unique compilation speaks to the deepest guilty pleasure. The cd includes Thom Panunzio's brand new remix of the Nicks classic "Jane". Dance producer extraordinaire Junior Vasquez provides remix production for "Desert Angel", a standout track that is sure to take the dance clubs by storm. Available on ITUNES and in stores on January 28, 2014.
Can they add touched by an angel to this list?

Inspiration and Docklands are good songs. However Stevie's vocal on Docklands is god awful. She hacks the song. Inspiration was one of the only few real songs from Street Angel but she didn't put it on the album because she didn't write it.

On the other hand, Mirror Mirror is not a good song but her vocal is excellent. It is one of the best vocals of her career.

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Old 01-12-2014, 05:25 PM
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I probably add Can't Fix This to the collection due to the overdrivin Rock guitar in it which ruined it for my taste.The lyrics are great .Sorry guys.I just want to hear Stevie's voice not the noise.

most of those on the list are my faves.
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Old 01-12-2014, 06:47 PM
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I was incredibly moved when I first heard "When I See You Again" back in time, when TITN was released, knowing Stevie had just pulled herself up, basically from hell, while recording and touring behind "Rock A Little" - in that context, at that time, the song and Stevie's delivery were touching. Yes, it's far from my favorite Stevie composition, but it's not dreck! This song was brave, in that it is probably the rawest thing Stevie ever recorded within Fleetwood Mac and gives TITN much needed emotional sobriety amongt all the 80s fairlight production frivolity. Like a slow funeral procession, this song crawls along befitting a song about reflection and regrets. Stevie vocal on this also reminds me of her stunning delivery on her great RAL outtake "She Loves Him Still." Heartbreaking.
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