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Old 12-09-2013, 05:06 AM
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^^^I think you may of forgotten about a little country called Australia, we missed out seeing them this year.. I would hope that their next tour begins in OZ then do NZ and rest of the world after that..
Yes I agree Australia and NZ surely should come first.

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I know! Ridiculous, right? They'd be totally better off WITH Christine any way they could get her.
That's what I've been thinking whilst reading all this. I'd rather be hearing that they are finding a way of making it work with Chris. Why stick with the same old thing, when you can embrace CHANGE, and create something new and exciting that fans will love. They must know that a future Fleetwood Mac is better with Christine, than without her. I can understand Stevie's concern, but maybe they need to be a bit more trusting of Chris's instincts to return.
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:07 PM
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How can she say with a straight face that they have spent the last 12 years trying to make the band relevant without Christine? They came out with ONE full album and an EP in 12 years! It depresses me that Stevie can't see how silly that sounds.
I think what Stevie means by this is that they finally, in 2014, with the success of the current tour, have become revelant again...but it's taken them all this time to reach this point. Just a guess, though. I do see your point about their lack of output in the past 12 years.
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:50 PM
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How can she say with a straight face that they have spent the last 12 years trying to make the band relevant without Christine? They came out with ONE full album and an EP in 12 years! It depresses me that Stevie can't see how silly that sounds.
The fact is that the "powers that be" want FM on the stage and not in the studio...Even if FM produces a record that is a hit it will not generate anywhere near the amount of profits that touring does...


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I think what Stevie means by this is that they finally, in 2013, with the success of the current tour, have become revelant again...but it's taken them all this time to reach this point.
It also sounds like Stevie is politely saying that if you want to come back then come back but we're not begging you or offering you whatever anymore...She's also saying that even though they would like her to return they don't need her in the band to sell tickets as the last 2 tours have proven...So if you want to come back come back but either way we will go on...
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:19 PM
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I think what Stevie is sayin is:

1. It's not up to us, it's up to Christine.
2. If she does want back in, she can't leave again.
3. It's a monster rock band with a lot of work.
4. I would never do a movie.

The rest is all speculation.

I think Stevie would love to have her back. I also believe they have all talked about it already.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:21 PM
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I'm confused by all this....they desperately wanted Chris back for years, and for many reasons she couldn't. Now she feels she is up to returning... you'd think they would all be pleased about it. Maybe 16 years is just too annoyingly long. They can not now comprehend her coming back.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:26 PM
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i think that as usual, we are all making a mountain out of a molehill, overanalyzing every word and expression, and slanting it the way each one of us likes.

i'm with people who said that SN is just stalling and making sure not to make any big announcements in these interviews, since their "management" people want to announce it with a bang. as they always do (so they can extract more money for themselves ). and as always in the last 10+ years, it will be more of a whimper than a bang.
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:59 PM
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i think that as usual, we are all making a mountain out of a molehill, overanalyzing every word and expression, and slanting it the way each one of us likes.

i'm with people who said that SN is just stalling and making sure not to make any big announcements in these interviews, since their "management" people want to announce it with a bang. as they always do (so they can extract more money for themselves ). and as always in the last 10+ years, it will be more of a whimper than a bang.
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^^^I think you may of forgotten about a little country called Australia, we missed out seeing them this year.. I would hope that their next tour begins in OZ then do NZ and rest of the world after that..
Yes, I am sorry. When I said Europe, I was actually thinking of the shows that were canceled in New Zealand and Australia and fully intended to say that those should be made up in 2014.

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Old 12-09-2013, 03:04 PM
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I think what Stevie is sayin is:

1. It's not up to us, it's up to Christine.
2. If she does want back in, she can't leave again.
3. It's a monster rock band with a lot of work.
4. I would never do a movie.

The rest is all speculation.

I think Stevie would love to have her back. I also believe they have all talked about it already.
Yes, I think it's clear that Stevie is saying that Christine can return any time she wants and doesn't have to ask anyone.

I also think they have talked. I mean, Christine would never have made the comment to the Guardian if she hadn't talked to Mick. She may not have talked to the others, but she talked to Mick and John and Mick has probably told her what Lindsey and Stevie have said in return. If Christine didn't know it was a go, she wouldn't have said that to The Guardian.

It's like her saying she would appear with them in London. She said she would do it if they asked her, but by that time, Mick had already said she was. She knew it was a "go" with the band. With Christine's personality, I just don't see her putting herself out there in the press and trying to manipulate events with public comments on her own. I mean, unlike the others, when has Chris ever used the media to gain leverage in the band? The most she has done is say that Dave Mason was a mistake and she only said that AFTER the fact.

I bet the band's management is already trying to sell them to promoters and Warner Bros. as a reunited band of five. But there's just nothing official yet.

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Old 12-09-2013, 03:26 PM
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i think that as usual, we are all making a mountain out of a molehill, overanalyzing every word and expression, and slanting it the way each one of us likes.
And I think there is conflation based on reactions to several different news items. Based on what Christine said about wondering what the promoters in Amsterdam and Berlin would think, I think she was confirming that Lindsey didn't want her on stage that first night in London, because she would get all the press (that backfired on him, because she got all the press anyway). The first night is when all the reviews are usually written. If she got all the press in London, then the people in Amsterdam and Berlin (cities that Christine mentioned) might expect her to appear there as well, hence "she can't just come and go."

Comments about appearing in London that we heard about in September have nothing to do with the subsequent November events -- which shocked us all to read -- in which Christine said she wants to come back to the band, giving rise to speculation about her full time return.

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^^^I think you may of forgotten about a little country called Australia, we missed out seeing them this year.. I would hope that their next tour begins in OZ then do NZ and rest of the world after that..
they BETTER kick off a "new" tour in Oz ... or imma quit them big time
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Old 12-09-2013, 05:36 PM
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Based on what Christine said about wondering what the promoters in Amsterdam and Berlin would think, I think she was confirming that Lindsey didn't want her on stage that first night in London, because she would get all the press (that backfired on him, because she got all the press anyway). The first night is when all the reviews are usually written. If she got all the press in London, then the people in Amsterdam and Berlin (cities that Christine mentioned) might expect her to appear there as well, hence "she can't just come and go."
i can't even pretend to understand Lindsey's reasoning behind that first night press thing, if that's what he even said at all.

judging by Lindsey solo, he does like to change it slightly when he has 2 gigs in the same town, which usually involves adding a song by request the second night.

so maybe the reasoning was something like - because Christine is not ready to perform in every city and the 5 are not what promoters paid for, each city on the tour needs to have at least one gig with just the 4, and maybe the second gig can be a little different and Christine can be there.

if so, then why Dublin and Amsterdam didn't get Christine for their second gigs? we know she was with them.
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they BETTER kick off a "new" tour in Oz ... or imma quit them big time
if they are doing glasto, they won't. it would make sense for them to stay around Europe for a bit. they seem to like to go to Oz during your summer. and i don't see them being ready health-wise or able to even book the dates for Oz in Jan-Feb 2014. so i don't think Oz will happen before Nov 2014. unless they become more open to touring Oz during different seasons.
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if they are doing glasto, they won't. it would make sense for them to stay around Europe for a bit. they seem to like to go to Oz during your summer. and i don't see them being ready health-wise or able to even book the dates for Oz in Jan-Feb 2014. so i don't think Oz will happen before Nov 2014. unless they become more open to touring Oz during different seasons.
Doesn't look like FM is playing Glasto in 2014...All the acts are booked and the festival is already sold out...

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they seem to like to go to Oz during your summer. and i don't see them being ready health-wise or able to even book the dates for Oz in Jan-Feb 2014. so i don't think Oz will happen before Nov 2014. unless they become more open to touring Oz during different seasons.
Yes. As far back as I can recall they only go there in their warmer months.

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Doesn't look like FM is playing Glasto in 2014...All the acts are booked and the festival is already sold out...
I wish your quote could be seen by every Ledgie but no doubt many will come after you hoping and speculating about FM performing there in 2014.
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