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Old 10-20-2013, 08:12 PM
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Yeah, they played them when they were new. But I mean, they DID get some decent airplay, so why did they choose to leave them in the dust, for the past few tours?
well, not a single or a hit, but they are playing Say Goodbye on this tour.

re decent airplay, apparently in continental Europe audience has been asking for Peacekeeper.

LB solo played Come on 2 of his last 3 tours as a regular part of his set, and Bleed To Love Her was also on his One Man Show setlist. but i'm with you and everyone who says they should play more SYW songs. i would love to hear Destiny Rules, as long as that guitar outro is there (i wouldn't want guitar parts half-gutted like they did with SOTM on this tour).
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:17 PM
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Let's see here, things FM pretend never existed....
Say You Will
The Time lineup
The GLORIOUS Bob Welch years
Really, they'd just like to forget about Bob and Billy altogether.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:24 PM
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Really, they'd just like to forget about Bob and Billy altogether.
As for Billy, Bekka, Dave Mason and others you might have a point. But Mick still talks about Bob quite a bit and I hardly think he's trying to forget him or erase him from the FM annals.

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Old 10-20-2013, 10:17 PM
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NO ONE is wanting a new album, IMO, because albums(unless the artist is CURRENTLY huge, and not a catalog act) no longer sell.

Exactly!

Even if Christine were to rejoin the group
they'd be lucky to achieve the relatively
paltry numbers of Say You Will.

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In a later post you mention "The Glorious Bob
Welch Years". To each his own, but I never found
that to be true. I like Bob and own his solo albums,
but overall I find his music very boring - especially
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:50 AM
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Really, they'd just like to forget about Bob and Billy altogether.
"Bob Welch saved Fleetwood Mac" - Dick Fleetwood

Those years were some of the best the band ever had, and they choose to sweep his legacy under the carpet. They should all be ashamed.
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:05 PM
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Why forget about Billy? Was that a negative parting of the ways?
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:54 PM
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Exactly!

Even if Christine were to rejoin the group
they'd be lucky to achieve the relatively
paltry numbers of Say You Will.
I think if Christine offered a full-on return to the band, I seriously doubt any of them would think twice about album sales. I think Mick, John, Lindsey, and Stevie would just be overjoyed to work with their old friend again, that they'd probably gladly lose money on a project. Not to mention, I think they'd all like the symmetry of closing out the band's recording days with Chris. Chris' return would pretty much guarantee a worldwide sellout tour to offset any album losses, too. They could all go out on top.

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"Bob Welch saved Fleetwood Mac" - Dick Fleetwood

Those years were some of the best the band ever had, and they choose to sweep his legacy under the carpet. They should all be ashamed.
Who is "they," and what did "they" do to rewrite Mac history?

Whenever Bob is brought up, Mick has nothing but glowing things to say about him. John just doesn't say much of anything about anyone, and Christine has retired.

If you mean the Welch era albums being tough to find in a retail setting these days, even Stevie Nicks' solo albums have all gone Out Of Print, not to mention her worst selling album of the '80s probably sold more than all the Welch Era Mac albums combined. So there's nothing subversive about Welch era Mac material being hard to come by. It's economics.

I will concede that it would have been nice for Fleetwood Mac to acknowledge Bob's legacy by performing Hypnotized this past tour. However, we may not have all the facts about that. We know Bob sued the band back in the '90s over royalties. Perhaps part of the settlement was that Fleetwood Mac had no permission to perform his songs onstage?
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:49 PM
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Who is "they," and what did "they" do to rewrite Mac history?

Whenever Bob is brought up, Mick has nothing but glowing things to say about him. John just doesn't say much of anything about anyone, and Christine has retired.

If you mean the Welch era albums being tough to find in a retail setting these days, even Stevie Nicks' solo albums have all gone Out Of Print, not to mention her worst selling album of the '80s probably sold more than all the Welch Era Mac albums combined. So there's nothing subversive about Welch era Mac material being hard to come by. It's economics.

I will concede that it would have been nice for Fleetwood Mac to acknowledge Bob's legacy by performing Hypnotized this past tour. However, we may not have all the facts about that. We know Bob sued the band back in the '90s over royalties. Perhaps part of the settlement was that Fleetwood Mac had no permission to perform his songs onstage?
If Mick has nothing but glowing things to say about Bob, then he should do the right thing, and attempt to get Bob inducted to RRHOF with FM.

Bob saved FM, during some very tough times. If it weren't for him getting them to move to the U.S., we can pretty much be guaranteed that none of would be here, typing any of these words. The FM that we all love, would've most likely ceased to exist. Stevie WHO? Well, I guess that might be a blessing, in and of itself!

And I also think that Billy should be inducted too. But for me, the difference is in the state of the band they were in. Bob dragged them through the hard times. Billy joined one of the biggest bands in the world. And mostly to just sing Lindsey's songs! That's a huge difference in my book.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:26 PM
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I don't think the RR HOF really matters, but to me, it had two decisions: 1) induct every member of Fleetwood Mac ever or 2) induct those from the PG line-up and the Rumours line-up. They chose 2. I understand why--even though it's not the choice I would have made.

If BW were to be inducted, it would have to now be on his own merits as both a solo artist and member of FM.
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Again...to magnify the point. Donna Jean Godchaux was inducted as a member of the Grateful Dead. Bob Welch was NOT inducted as a member of Fleetwood Mac.

There's a helluva disconnect there.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:06 PM
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Again...to magnify the point. Donna Jean Godchaux was inducted as a member of the Grateful Dead. Bob Welch was NOT inducted as a member of Fleetwood Mac.

There's a helluva disconnect there.
Again I will say I think these award shows ,Hall a Fame's of music sports and what ever are fixed and not honest and over look artists that deserve to get into the hall a fames.
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Old 10-22-2013, 02:52 PM
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Again...to magnify the point. Donna Jean Godchaux was inducted as a member of the Grateful Dead. Bob Welch was NOT inducted as a member of Fleetwood Mac.

There's a helluva disconnect there.
There are plenty of threads all over The Ledge for this topic. Does every thread have to be hijacked for this?
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:27 PM
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There are plenty of threads all over The Ledge for this topic. Does every thread have to be hijacked for this?
Until the unjust is corrected...yes.
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Until the unjust is corrected...yes.
That's gonna be my answer as well.
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If it comes to reality.I have a gut feeling it might be the last complete studio recording from FM.I hope I'm freaking wrong.
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