Obama Getting Americans Hooked On 'Crack Cocaine' Of Health Care Dependency

[jwd]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I'm trying to picture what these people look like in your mind. Can you please describe them in detail to me. Who are they? What people are you referring to?

I think this sums it up.

[becca]

On topic here is the healthcare view from one provider Canada: I first started having a problem just before last Christmas, got on the waitlist to see specialist in January, saw him in April, then in May he decided it was too advanced for him and was put on the list to see another specialist. I saw him in late August and am now waiting for the call to have surgery. Meanwhile the problem is nearing on completely debilitating.

I think concerns about rationing and wait lists are legitimate. I do like that you have choices of providers though which we haven't had here since the early '70s in my part of Canada. I have in the past always had people asking about how they can move to Canada from the U.S. when they find out I am Canadian and am down there, usually they cited healthcare as a main reason, but then they often had ideas that things were covered that in fact aren't (like dental). Over time we have seen many procedures de-listed from what is covered, so in a way we are creeping towards s user pay two tier model.

My previous relationship was with an Alaskan man who was diagnosed with cancer and the costs involved despite having employer insurance was staggering to me and kept us from marrying as planned as I had health costs of my own. He was in the operating room within days of diagnosis however which speed amazed me, and in fact his surgeon was trained in Canada. It's all very complicated. I hope it becomes less political, that part is hard to follow as I know Romney originally promoted the same basic model of affordable care in Massachusetts and then later decided it was terrible for the whole country to have. Very confusing stuff that!

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by jwd

I think this sums it up.

The specter of Welfare leaches seems to be the single biggest fear & rallying cry of right wing folks. But have you ever actually known anyone on Welfare? I certainly haven't.

Something most people don't know is that Welfare a.k.a. Temporary Assistance for Needy Families has a lifetime limit of 60 months, or 5 years. However, if someone has been on the program 24 months without finding employment, they are kicked out of the program. Some states restrict these programs much more. The moral of the story is: there aren't people who just live their entire lives on Welfare.

[Macfanforever]

I never collected from any of those programs except for unemployment comp.



Some people beat the system and abuse it and get away with it and ruin it for the people that are really in need for it.

They are clamping down on those issues and limit the needs in some states like mentioned.


Note on that video.I thought I was fat.I got keep walking.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

The specter of Welfare leaches seems to be the single biggest fear & rallying cry of right wing folks. But have you ever actually known anyone on Welfare? I certainly haven't.

Something most people don't know is that Welfare a.k.a. Temporary Assistance for Needy Families has a lifetime limit of 60 months, or 5 years. However, if someone has been on the program 24 months without finding employment, they are kicked out of the program. Some states restrict these programs much more. The moral of the story is: there aren't people who just live their entire lives on Welfare.

I most certainly do know of someone on welfare.

You speak of one program, there are many welfare programs. Some welfare statistics:

http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

[becca]

They used to do the divide and conquer thing in Canada too about cheats... there are always going to be some in any system, meanwhile while you're looking down at somebody somewhere scarpering with that $200 you won't be looking up at the ones getting the $2mill!

It's off topic though, I was kind of hoping to hear more about the affordable care act and experiences with it now it's arrived. I know some people who are putting off deciding what they will do. Hopefully any kinks will get worked out soon. I pay through the nose right now to get extended coverage for when I'm in the U.S., wonder if that would get better? It's even worse since I've had an existing condition (didn't even want to think about entering when it was undiagnosed) but now I'm not able to travel at all well anyway. Hope that will change too.

[Sapphire Girl]

Anyone notice something about the 1-800 number Pres Obama stated yesterday(?) in his speech for those who want to get help regarding their healthcare?

318-2596

3= DEF
1
8= TUV
2= ABC
5= JKL
9= WXYZ
6= MNO

[diane_k]

Are you sure it isn't because of his disdain for NY?

1-800-FU-BKLYN

How silly!

[Macfanforever]

Who ever is into IT ,computer technical stuff .

Uncle Sam Want You .

Pres Obama needs talented IT pros to fix and keep the exchange services working.


They should of beta test these exchanges months ago before the October 1st roll out.