Sunday Night

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I'm one of those people that is so tired of the breastfeeding objections I don't know what to do. You can feed your kid wherever you want and anyone who gives you a dirty look or a hassle should be arrested.

Michele

No, just no.

[Dex]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

No, just no.

Can I ask why you feel that way? I know we're way off topic now but I've never got to seriously ask someone why that would make them uncomfortable. It's always baffled me and I'm genuinely curious. As I see it, there's nothing that could even remotely be seen as sexual about breastfeeding, and all anyone really sees is the back of a baby's head.

Not trying to be inflammatory or put you on the defense. Just interested.

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by Dex

Can I ask why you feel that way? I know we're way off topic now but I've never got to seriously ask someone why that would make them uncomfortable. It's always baffled me and I'm genuinely curious. As I see it, there's nothing that could even remotely be seen as sexual about breastfeeding, and all anyone really sees is the back of a baby's head.

Not trying to be inflammatory or put you on the defense. Just interested.

I appreciate the way you asked the question.
If Michele reads what I wrote, she'll probably
think I'm joking as I usually am prone to do.

I think it's a lack of modesty. It's in no way a
sexual type of thing. I guess I'm old school in
the way I think about it. I'd just prefer not to
see it if possible.

I could go on, but I've said enough.

[Dex]

OK. Thanks for indulging.


Michele, ragarding bathroom usage euphemisms, I'd like to make it clear that I don't say "I'm peeing" to absolutely everybody off the street, and I agree that there are more subtle ways to convey that message. However, if I'm with people I've known intimately for 40 years, I'd probably toss the euphemisms aside. They just seem a little silly to me at that point. But chalk it up to cultural differences, I guess.

Just an aside: I remember when I was a kid, women of older generations did say "powder my nose" a lot, and it was years before I realized they weren't being literal. I just thought women literally went into the bathroom to put powder on their nose with tremendous frequency. It always seemed like a colossal waste of time to me. I always thought their noses always looked perfectly fine as they were, and pretty much the same when they came back.

[secret love]

Originally Posted by justcrazylove

woah woah woah... let's settle down there newbie, firstly don't use the Australian sense of humour as your out clause, i'm an Aussie, have met Lindsey and have been on this board for 10 years, Elle is one of the best posters on here, furthermore you seem quick to cast opinions on someone you have never met and yet fire up when someone does the same. Don't ever use sense of humour as a way of defending your opinions.

All I am saying is that I would love to meet Lindsey and get to know the real Linds. That way I could see what type of person he is. Also, stop deliberately misinterpreting every comment I am making. Read what I say and understand without prejudice, please, that is all I ask.

He seems like a dickhead. Not he is one, he appears to be one from what I have seen of him. I am sure that this is just the media's portrayal of him. And if I meet the guy I'd probably discover he's an awesome person! hence why I want to meet him...duh...

I am not using my sense of humour as a way of defending my opinions. My views on Lindsey are not well-informed. That is why I want to know the real person he is, outside the public eye. But that will probably never happen. He does not do Australian tours as far as I know (and if he did I would actually be the first to buy tickets...)

And...what ever happened to a little fantasy being a good thing? I like to romanticise Lindsey and Stevie's relationship in my head, as a story through song. But...

at the same time...I am acutely aware that Stevie is a strong and confident 65 year old grown woman. And Lindsey is a 63 year old mature, seasoned professional musician with a wife, kids, lots of friends...probably a great guy.

He just appears to sometimes forget about people's feelings when he is caught up in creating "artwork" (studio recordings). Refer to his comments in Destiny Rules doco re: double album. Linds wanted a double album. That is, 18 songs but spread across 2 CDs charged at a premium price.

Maybe we would have received additional music if Lindsey had got his way. I actually support him on this one. But I do not support the pressure he put on the rest of the band for the double album idea. It caused friction as you can see in the doco and in interviews with the press.

Just because I don't always agree with Lindsey, and just because I think sometimes he is mean - this does not mean he is a dickhead. Sorry, bad choice of words. What I've been getting at is: how odd his relationship with Stevie and other women appears to have been. I am happy that he is now content and married with children, life has been kind to him. And he is no doubt a great guy. But I don't know him. So how can I support any opinions I have of him with evidence until I meet the bloke (Lindsey)?

That is my point: I only know a very limited amount about who Lindsey is, what he's like. And well...that's why I want to meet Mr Buckingham!!


I'm dreadfully sorry that everyone has been so upset by my comments, more important I'm sorry that I was unable to clearly express myself and say what I really think.

And also, yes Stevie's songs on SYW were good. But they were not how she wanted them to be. She was unhappy with the production. Not the lyrics, not even the music really. And it is nobody's fault. Things just didn't work out...and the result is: an 18-track album which I personally LOVE but Stevie dislikes, Lindsey loves and don't know about Mick or John - they tend to be somewhat impartial in the press. John lives a very private life. And Mick just wants to make new music and tour as long as is possible. He loves it so good on him.

[wheart]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

The only thing that I didn't like was her makeup. It's clear that the interview was done just before the show, so her face is made up for the stage (ie. looks natural from afar but bold and exaggerated closeup).

I disagree. I was looking closely at her makeup, trying to figure out it was filmed in relation to the show and I do not think she was wearing her full on stage makeup for the interview. It looked a lot softer and understated that it does when she's onstage, especially the eye make up.

[Desiree]

Originally Posted by wheart

I disagree. I was looking closely at her makeup, trying to figure out it was filmed in relation to the show and I do not think she was wearing her full on stage makeup for the interview. It looked a lot softer and understated that it does when she's onstage, especially the eye make up.

I thought her stage makeup was harsh looking on TV too! Her makeup is usually flawless in interviews and very soft. Even her lips were outlined very noticeably. Very definitely right before the Sacramento show, I'm thinking!

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by Desiree

I thought her stage makeup was harsh looking on TV too! Her makeup is usually flawless in interviews and very soft. Even her lips were outlined very noticeably. Very definitely right before the Sacramento show, I'm thinking!

I was wondering when this interview was filmed too.

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

I was wondering when this interview was filmed too.

They said in the interview it was filmed on the last night of the American tour, hence Sacramento.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by vivfox

They said in the interview it was filmed on the last night of the American tour, hence Sacramento.

Thanks .I've must of dozed off or detracted in that part of the interview and did not pay attention.

[secret love]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Thanks .I've must of dozed off or detracted in that part of the interview and did not pay attention.

I missed the initial screening and watched the interview online after the program finished.

My favourite part was the snippets of pro-shot concert footage from Sacramento show. Gives me hope that Fleetwood Mac are going to awesome in Sydney this November despite their age. Not that I consider 65 old, 80 is old. But still - wow. I can only hope I have as much energy, mental acuity and passion at age 65 as Lindsey, Mick, John and Stevie do today.

James

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by secret love

I missed the initial screening and watched the interview online after the program finished.

My favourite part was the snippets of pro-shot concert footage from Sacramento show. Gives me hope that Fleetwood Mac are going to awesome in Sydney this November despite their age. Not that I consider 65 old, 80 is old. But still - wow. I can only hope I have as much energy, mental acuity and passion at age 65 as Lindsey, Mick, John and Stevie do today.

James

Yes .I agree .They still kick a$$ and rock out at 65. I'm so proud of them of keeping it up all of these years. Most people at 65 are retiring an getting part time work as a greeter at Walmart or Home Depot at that age.

I think when I hit their age,"God willing" If I do which its not that far off for me.I hope I can kick a$$ like they do.I just keep up my walking and exercising and I should be ok.If I dont.I end up petering out.

Yes .I cant wait to see the videos from the Aussie shows later November.You guys will enjoy the shows like we did here in the states.

I wish John was a part of the interview too.

I cant picture the Mac as greeters at Walmart.LOL....

[wheart]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

Yes .I agree .They still kick a$$ and rock out at 65. I'm so proud of them of keeping it up all of these years. Most people at 65 are retiring an getting part time work as a greeter at Walmart or Home Depot at that age.

I think when I hit their age,"God willing" If I do which its not that far off for me.I hope I can kick a$$ like they do.I just keep up my walking and exercising and I should be ok.If I dont.I end up petering out.

Yes .I cant wait to see the videos from the Aussie shows later November.You guys will enjoy the shows like we did here in the states.

I wish John was a part of the interview too.

I cant picture the Mac as greeters at Walmart.LOL....

I know, we want to hear more (something) from you Mr. McVie!!! We've heard the same story from Stevie about 1,000 times now. LOL.

Yes, I really, really hope this tour is professionally filmed and released. it's way too good not to be!!

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by michelej1

On the other hand, I'm one of those people that is so tired of the breastfeeding objections I don't know what to do. You can feed your kid wherever you want and anyone who gives you a dirty look or a hassle should be arrested.

Michele

I grew up with aunts who all breastfed, in the room with the rest of the family, shamelessly (as it should be), and I find objections to it hilarious, sort of like Carrie's mom (in the Stephen King book) talking about her 'dirty pillows'.

[Desiree]

Originally Posted by wheart

Yes, I really, really hope this tour is professionally filmed and released. it's way too good not to be!!

Me too, Jonathan! The first leg was amazing and I bet the rest will be...despite the verbal diarrhea, I'd be willing to bet BIG money that they are all having a blast! They're old enough now to appreciate it as a whole, to look back with different eyes and forward without alot of apprehension. And they all seem to be healthy...the show alone is one heck of an exercise routine 3-4 times a week, and alot more fun looking than mine!!!!