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Old 05-05-2013, 04:07 AM
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You think so? I highly doubt her book would generate that many sales generally, but it would certainly be invaluable to fans of Stevie and FM alike. I mean it would hit the NYT bestseller list I agree, but I don't think it would stay there for long. And I don't think it would be a rock tome that would attract music lovers as a whole. I mean a book like that could be written by a female rocker, but our rocker is not the one.

I think Stevie's book would be so Nicksentric that I'm not sure how much insight it would give into music or the eighties or the culture as a whole. I think it would be for FM lovers. It would come out the gates with lots of reviews and great sales, but then I don't think it would go very far, because of the isolated, rather than wide view, stories it would tell.

David, tell us what you think of the piano playing on Miss Fantasy and It Takes Time, if you get a chance.

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Well Ann and Nancy Wilson's memoirs sold very well, didn't they? If they could make a bestseller, I don't see why Stevie couldn't.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:53 AM
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^ I think Michele thinks it would be a bestseller, but kind of the flash-in-the-pan variety. It wouldn't be artistically "important" or particularly insightful, and would probably be quickly forgotten by the masses, relegated to the hardcore-fan-only shelf.

At least, that's what I got from her post. I happen to agree. Another album would have a lot more longevity for more people, IMO. But a book could be fun, too, I guess. If it's a story she really feels compelled to tell.
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:31 AM
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I like every song off the album (IYD), too. It was the best thing she has done since the 80s.
This is the same Ledgie who constantly complained that one of the tracks was too long, coming in at six minutes.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:43 PM
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This is the same Ledgie who constantly complained that one of the tracks was too long, coming in at six minutes.
I liked the songs but there were about five songs that were too long.
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Old 05-05-2013, 12:44 PM
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Well Ann and Nancy Wilson's memoirs sold very well, didn't they? If they could make a bestseller, I don't see why Stevie couldn't.
Did anyone on here read Ann and Nancy's memoir? Is it worth picking up?
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:58 PM
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Did anyone on here read Ann and Nancy's memoir? Is it worth picking up?
i read it a while ago and it was very good. i was surprised that they were so candid about everything. my sister as well as my dad read it and thought that it was great. very interesting stuff about their family too.

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Old 05-05-2013, 02:24 PM
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i read it a while ago and it was very good. i was surprised that they were so candid about everything. my sister as well as my dad read it and thought that it was that great. very interesting stuff about their family too.
ah, there's the (potential) rub with a Stevie book....how candid *would* she be?? I know she thinks she's terribly candid about her life, and in some areas she is, but only the areas she chooses. When you write a book people naturally expect that you will not only be honest about the events you talk about, but your own role in them... and you include the not-so-pretty parts along with the magical ones. that's where the doubt comes in. Stevie is very controlling of her story and her image and as we know not always very self-aware let alone self-critical. A fluff tale would not sustain sales to a wide audience.
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ah, there's the (potential) rub with a Stevie book....how candid *would* she be?? I know she thinks she's terribly candid about her life, and in some areas she is, but only the areas she chooses. When you write a book people naturally expect that you will not only be honest about the events you talk about, but your own role in them... and you include the not-so-pretty parts along with the magical ones. that's where the doubt comes in. Stevie is very controlling of her story and her image and as we know not always very self-aware let alone self-critical. A fluff tale would not sustain sales to a wide audience.
yeah i dont see her being that candid with her book. ann and nancy wilson talk about their sex lives pretty openly and i dont see stevie ever doing that. nancy also talks about her divorce as well.
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ah, there's the (potential) rub with a Stevie book....how candid *would* she be?? I know she thinks she's terribly candid about her life, and in some areas she is, but only the areas she chooses. When you write a book people naturally expect that you will not only be honest about the events you talk about, but your own role in them... and you include the not-so-pretty parts along with the magical ones. that's where the doubt comes in. Stevie is very controlling of her story and her image and as we know not always very self-aware let alone self-critical. A fluff tale would not sustain sales to a wide audience.
Stevie has pretty much said that her book would be all the magical moments (meeting Lindsey, joining FM, etc etc) and she wouldn't put all the terrible stuff in there because if someone wants to know about the terrible stuff they can read/watch interviews from the past four decades.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:37 PM
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Stevie has pretty much said that her book would be all the magical moments (meeting Lindsey, joining FM, etc etc) and she wouldn't put all the terrible stuff in there because if someone wants to know about the terrible stuff they can read/watch interviews from the past four decades.
oh I think we BARELY know the gritty side of her life/career. It's been hinted at by a few people around her (Paul Fishkin, for one, talking about the "near overdoses" and having to "scrape her off the floor" and such)... so yeah, we know bad stuff happened, but we don't know nearly the half of it.

and frankly, I find just reading about all the good stuff in someone's life is a bit tedious....and can, if not well done, come off like bragging. (or delusional). The gritty parts add more meaning to the happy parts. I think of someone like, say, Liz Taylor. You could really write her off as a spoiled rich biatch but you see the trials and tribulations and falling and getting up parts and you really feel happy for her when you read the good parts of her life. I think if Stevie were to write about ALL that stuff, it would not only be fascinating but would grab more people.

But as always, it's her life, and it's her choice how to tell it.
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oh I think we BARELY know the gritty side of her life/career. It's been hinted at by a few people around her (Paul Fishkin, for one, talking about the "near overdoses" and having to "scrape her off the floor" and such)... so yeah, we know bad stuff happened, but we don't know nearly the half of it.

and frankly, I find just reading about all the good stuff in someone's life is a bit tedious....and can, if not well done, come off like bragging. (or delusional). The gritty parts add more meaning to the happy parts. I think of someone like, say, Liz Taylor. You could really write her off as a spoiled rich biatch but you see the trials and tribulations and falling and getting up parts and you really feel happy for her when you read the good parts of her life. I think if Stevie were to write about ALL that stuff, it would not only be fascinating but would grab more people.

But as always, it's her life, and it's her choice how to tell it.
So true- I completely agree with everything you said.
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oh I think we BARELY know the gritty side of her life/career. It's been hinted at by a few people around her (Paul Fishkin, for one, talking about the "near overdoses" and having to "scrape her off the floor" and such)... so yeah, we know bad stuff happened, but we don't know nearly the half of it.

and frankly, I find just reading about all the good stuff in someone's life is a bit tedious....and can, if not well done, come off like bragging. (or delusional). The gritty parts add more meaning to the happy parts. I think of someone like, say, Liz Taylor. You could really write her off as a spoiled rich biatch but you see the trials and tribulations and falling and getting up parts and you really feel happy for her when you read the good parts of her life. I think if Stevie were to write about ALL that stuff, it would not only be fascinating but would grab more people.

But as always, it's her life, and it's her choice how to tell it.
Oh, I agree. I'm just repeating what Stevie has said recently about the subject.
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i read it a while ago and it was very good. i was surprised that they were so candid about everything. my sister as well as my dad read it and thought that it was great. very interesting stuff about their family too.
Thank you. I think I'm going to buy it. I doubt Stevie would be candid about everything. Too many of her star friends would have to be mentioned.
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Old 05-06-2013, 02:15 AM
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When I read those autobiographies when they just talk about what everyone else did but never say what THEY did, their credibility is shot for me. If you're that protective of yourself, there's no need to write a book.

BombaySaffires you were correct in indicating that Stevie lacks the objectivity or self-awareness needed to pen a book that would be as compelling as her life story could be.

I did think it was amusing in IYD when she talked about stealing Mike's song from Tom Petty's demo tape. I don't know how that thing accidentally made its way into her purse, but she kept saying that she STOLE it and, embraced the embarrassment she created for herself 30 years ago.

You know, on a larger scale, if you could do a whole book from that perspective where you are like a mother to your younger self and you have just as much love, but you also have distance and can recognize and discuss the missteps you made with clarity and honesty and lay them on the table without feeling that you're costing your current self respect, then that's when you're ready to tell the world about who you are in print.

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When I read those autobiographies when they just talk about what everyone else did but never say what THEY did, their credibility is shot for me. If you're that protective of yourself, there's no need to write a book.

BombaySaffires you were correct in indicating that Stevie lacks the objectivity or self-awareness needed to pen a book that would be as compelling as her life story could be.

I did think it was amusing in IYD when she talked about stealing Mike's song from Tom Petty's demo tape. I don't know how that thing accidentally made its way into her purse, but she kept saying that she STOLE it and, embraced the embarrassment she created for herself 30 years ago.

You know, on a larger scale, if you could do a whole book from that perspective where you are like a mother to your younger self and you have just as much love, but you also have distance and can recognize and discuss the missteps you made with clarity and honesty and lay them on the table without feeling that you're costing your current self respect, then that's when you're ready to tell the world about who you are in print.

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I'm glad they did not called the police on her hahaha.

This reminds me when I had some friends over about 30 years ago and somebody helped themselves to some cassettes that I had on the table.

Don't ask me why they wanted 3 self recorded tapes of country music and a part of a live Mel Tillis concert that I recorded a month earlier.

They all dont like country music.

I cant pinpoint who did it but I was will alert the next time they were around.
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