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Old 04-30-2013, 05:19 AM
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I think Stevie enjoyed the four days spent in Lindsey's bunker putting vocals on the songs but I think the reason she didn't give him new songs is because a: they are now on good terms and after having a good writing experience with Dave Stewart she doesn't want to go back to having some criticize her writing
and b: her adding songs would have gotten them closer to putting out an entire album and she knows that putting out an album means a whole of extra work promoting it and extra touring to back up the album and she doesn't want to do all that work with FM.
I do think she is enjoying the FM tour now that they are on the road and it seems like it is more fun than she thought it would be, but I still think she rather put out one more solo record instead of a new FM record. That is why she did not hand over any new songs for FM to record.

But that is just an opinion from a brand new FM/Stevie Nicks fan
This is the truth. If Stevie looks like her heart isn't in FM any more, then it's because her heart isn't in FM any more. In common with Buckingham and Fleetwood, she loves the money, loves the glamour, loves the profile that FM provides, but I think her priority is more solo work with Dave Stewart, and other people like him who don't fundamentally lack respect for her as an artist in her own right.

For people who are disenchanted, I have this advice: just drop her. Drop her and follow someone else. Or take up reading. Stevie's fans won't miss you.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:37 AM
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For people who are disenchanted, I have this advice: just drop her. Drop her and follow someone else. Or take up reading. Stevie's fans won't miss you.
Exactly!

I might be naive but people do change, and people do get older and no matter how much we would like to, she is not gonna be the same Stevie, have the same voice (your vocal chords change as you get older no matter how well you take care of them) and she cannot have the same hopes, dreams and aspirations as she did 30 years ago.

And if I were the one who kept feeling disenchanted I would like to think that I would treasure the "good memories" and let it go....
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:31 AM
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I am in the same camp as diamondsnake, and it is all because of the lack of new music, especially seeing her ignore the opportunity to work with Lindsey and make new FM music. Too many years of too little product. I will keep following but will keep my hopes low. I actually consider Stevie fundamentally retired now as a songwriter and creater.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:45 AM
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I can't believe nobody has noticed this, but Stevie CANNOT write like she used to. IYD was only as brilliant as it was because of Dave Stewart's involvement. Stevie cannot do it anymore.

Think about it -

Constant tours with the same setlist
Tours promoting Greatest Hits packages
Litterally decades between new material
Unnecessary cover versions to make up for lack of new material in live sets

I think Lindsey will expect Stevie to bring something new to the table as was always the way, but she just can't write like she used to anymore and would only have old demo's to bring that would be of the quality Lindsey would expect.

Don't get me wrong, I worship the woman and always will. But she is nearly 65 - you can't expect her to be able to write at the amount and quality that she used to. And I think deep down, the fact that she really cannot do it like she used to upsets her greatly and is a big struggle for her.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:52 AM
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Actually I feel just the opposite. Yes, I would have liked Stevie to be more involved in the EP (though I haven't heard it yet) but I think her collaboration with Dave Stewart (album and documentary) has really ignited her creative spark again. In my opinion, I feel she's just biding her time with FM right now, and will be heading back into the studio as a solo artist when this tour wraps up. At least I hope so. I honestly don't think we will see another FM album because, as you've noted, I don't think Stevie has any interest in being part of that. Who knows, maybe she feels she needs to make up for her 10 year solo drought.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:55 AM
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Although the tour you tube videos have been impressive, I'm not going to any shows on the tour as I see it as simply a cash grab that I can't afford. Kind of reminds me of a CEO raking in millions while expecting workers to take a 50% pay cut which has happened in the corporate world. All that said, I remain interested in the band from a creativity point of view and both Stevie and Lindsey have shown us they still have some great songs left in them. I thought You Can't Fix This was the closest Stevie has come to her Fleetwood Mac greatness in about 30 years and the new songs on the EP continue to showcase Lindsey at the top of his game. So, after 36 years as a fan, I'm still interested to see what they have for new music but I have retired the concert scene.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:06 AM
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I am in the same camp as diamondsnake, and it is all because of the lack of new music, especially seeing her ignore the opportunity to work with Lindsey and make new FM music. Too many years of too little product. I will keep following but will keep my hopes low. I actually consider Stevie fundamentally retired now as a songwriter and creater.
It has been only two years since she released a new album. And she has released new songs with/without Fleetwood Mac in the interim. ADHD much? She writes all of her own songs, which involves taking time to live life and be inspired. Jeez... would Stevie's music be any good if she was just some robotron cranking out songs just for the sake of crapping out an album every year? If you're looking for someone who prioritizes quantity over quality, you are definitely not following the right artist(s).

The amount of entitlement around here is astounding.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:31 AM
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The only thing I feel "blah" about lately is the samples I heard of the new FM EP. Totally not impressed at all. Same old Lindsey "Peacekeeper" stuff, imo. Stevie is barely there. They sound detached. Stevie sounds like she recorded her parts on the telephone or something. (Bad production, I guess?) I decided not to buy it, even tho the 4 songs were cheaper than my frozen yogurt yesterday.

In regards to the idea of Stevie losing her creativity and ability to write good songs, that's just ludicrous. And IYD only being as great as it is because of Dave? Please. She knows what she wants her songs to sound like and not sound like. He just helped her (brilliantly) get there.
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Why does everyone get their knickers in such a twist over a thread like this? Those of us who are dissapointed shouldn't feel like they have to "drop" Stevie Nicks altogether. I adore her music and her. Why can't those of us that are a little dissapointed be able to express it here?

I am not asking for the moon and sky- I just feel like a lot of time is being wasted on nonsense if she truly does want to do a few more albums in her life.
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Indications from recent interviews say Stevie has plans to record another solo record in 2014.
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Guys i'm just f-ing ecstatic that my favorite band, though well into their 60's, are still touring and working on putting out new music. I love Lindsey's new songs. I love the lyrics and the meanings behind them. I love Stevie's back-up on them. I love the setlist, the shows, all of it. We're lucky to even have them still together and touring.

As for Stevie's involvement. There's no surprise there, IMO. I think we all know how she feels about FM work. I remember a few different interviews in the 90s where she says she much prefers making solo records because when she's making those.. everybody who's there actually wants to be there, and nothing's awkward or boring, and she's the boss, and there's nobody there to make fun of her or fight with her or be sarcastic to her.
We all know she has some material. She's mentioned a couple songs that she's had Dave working on lately. I think she's just waiting to put it out on her own solo record. Her contract still calls for one more, doesn't it? I think that's more what she's aiming for than giving all her songs to FM.
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I can't believe nobody has noticed this, but Stevie CANNOT write like she used to. IYD was only as brilliant as it was because of Dave Stewart's involvement. Stevie cannot do it anymore.

Think about it -

Constant tours with the same setlist
This is a setlist from some concert in 2011:

01. Stand Back
02. Annabel Lee
03. Dreams
04. Sorcerer
05. Moonlight
06. Gold Dust Woman
07. Ghosts Are Gone
08. Soldiers Angel (w/Sharon & Lori)
09. In Your Dreams
10. Rhiannon
11. For What It's Worth
12. Secret Love
13. Leather and Lace (w/Steve Real)
14. Edge of 17
(encore)
15. Love Is

Like she doesn't do new songs or songs from her last couple albums during her shows.... pfft.

Stevie has been active and making new music, documentaries, and collaborations, and all she gets here is fans saying they are feeling blah about her. I know this is a place to express your opinions, but for God sakes, at every turn she isn't living up to someone's ridiculous expectations.
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Why does everyone get their knickers in such a twist over a thread like this? Those of us who are dissapointed shouldn't feel like they have to "drop" Stevie Nicks altogether. I adore her music and her. Why can't those of us that are a little dissapointed be able to express it here?

I am not asking for the moon and sky- I just feel like a lot of time is being wasted on nonsense if she truly does want to do a few more albums in her life.
well I can't speak for everyone but my knickers are in a twist because a thread like this doesnt make sense right now. If you posted it in 2010, sure it'd make tons of sense. But the fact that we have IYD, the sound city players thing with You can't fix this and the kick ass collaboration concerts with the foo fighters. Plus as TerraRhiannon has demonstrated, her set lists have been amazing on the 2 year IYD tour, even including a one time New Orleans performance.

And to the she doesnt write good songs anymore comment.. bullsh*t maybe you didn't like IYD but the vast majority of us love it. And my personal favorite song she's released this decade is You Cant Fix This.

Her involvement in the EP is disappointing. the fact that Without You is her sole contribution is pathetic, but a thread like this is a total over reaction to that.
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Stevie does not have to write new tunes .She can recycle some of her demos rerecord them for a new CD for FM and herself.Which she does.

She can still write.I cant take that from her.

About the EP which reminds me when I read these threads think of politics with the parties split down the middle or lopsided when they try to pass a bill.

All the Lindsey fans are saying yippy and the Stevie fans say blah.

Yes I agree that wish there was more Stevie on the EP but she had her hands on other projects at the time.Thats the way I see it..
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Didn't FM make the EP while Stevie was coping with her mother's death? Maybe she did the bare minimum to make sure she was actually involved? Her other projects have taken up large amounts of her time, so maybe she wants to see how the EP will fare before committing herself to an album. So, like, in Stevie's eyes, she's done her part.

I don't think she's artistically done though. You Can't Fix This is an excellent song, and she and Lindsey both sound great on the EP.
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