FM Family Tree - Page 10

fleetfootmike · #**136** 01-31-2003, 03:36 AM

Steve Fairhead (Bob Weston's webmaster) kindly offered to bounce the current version of the tree past Bob _Welch_, with whom he's also in contact.

Bob: Headwest made one album on "Disques Vogue" in France in '68.

Note the spelling of Headwest.

bjk3047 · #**137** 02-01-2003, 08:59 PM

I took the space out of Head_west (presuming that was the correction you were making).
If that's the case with Headwest, can Bob clear up when he left the Seven Souls? Because my information says he left in '69 (overlapping his joining Headweast in '68). Thanks for the help, much appreciated, Mike!
-Brian
P.S. I added Black Cat Bones to the tree, just to make sure I interpreted correctly, do check: http://www.geocities.com/bri3047/familytree.html
I also finished the first two entries for Dave Mason, but I'll have to wait until the end to integrate them onto the tree. The 1/3 size full tree was updated as well.

wetcamelfood · #**138** 02-24-2003, 07:31 PM

This is a cover scan for the Head west album I had sent Marty for the Penguin discography a while back:

http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/penguin/covers/headwest.jpg

You'll notice there IS a space in between the "Head" and "west" and it is this way on the label of the album as well so I personally would go with having the space between the two words but whatever you guys think.

Also, I just happened to notice on the tree link that there was Mar 66 as the start date for Black cat bones, that should be Mar 1968. So to be clear, Weston's time in BCB was from March 1968 to December 1968 (or at least that's what I personally think we should guess as for now unless we get more concrete info on that in the future..

John

bjk3047 · #**139** 02-24-2003, 09:51 PM

Hmmm, graphical evidence

Head West it is.
Sorry to say John, but your eyes decieve you. It actually is a 68 on Black Cat Bones, so it's correct as is. By the end of this weekend, I should have the (very long) Dave Mason branch done, so get your proof-reading eyes ready!
-Brian

wetcamelfood · #**140** 02-25-2003, 07:27 AM

Sorry for the "68 goof"!

OK, I'm going to splash some water on my face now to be ready for the checking later.

John

bjk3047 · #**141** 02-25-2003, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bjk3047
so get your proof-reading eyes ready!

Haha....my bad...
I actually didn't mean that to you specifically John, I meant anyone who's wathcing this thread. Poor choice of wording lol
-Brian

bjk3047 · #**142** 03-01-2003, 08:19 PM

Well Dave Mason is done:
http://www.geocities.com/bri3047/familytree.html

A couple questions/clarifications as follows...
Delaney And Bonnie - I just dashed Clapton as Green was to denote some shows, I figure it'd save an entry....which we have many of for Dave.

Where I had to choose between two of an instrumentalist, I chose the most feasible (ex. not Capaldi post-Traffic since odds are he didn't tour with him) or the one that seemed to me the more well known or more often used, please do correct me if necessary here, I'm not real familiar with Dave.

Dave Mason #10...Chris Corss? And I assume Bruns is right as well? Bruns is a slightly more commonplace name, but I couldn't find any specific reference to either on the web for spelling.

That's about it! Next we have to figure out what to do with Bekka....should be interesting conversation...
-Brian

wetcamelfood · #**143** 03-01-2003, 08:51 PM

My browser won't let me see the Dave Mason section in a "blown up" fashion so I hope someone else can check that one over but I'm sure it'll be fine.

Well, unless anyone else knows where we can get those dates and personnel on those bands Bekka had worked with I guess we will have to just leave her out (apart from the Zoo or whatever it is that we DO have on her in there) but just a shame, I guess it's kind of the same with Billy really since his branch is kind of a mess due to the fact that we can't get specific info on his "outside Mac" excursions.

So, I guess I've done what I can here but hopefully someone else will have some ideas how to tidy things up in these areas but a BIG thanks to Brian for his hard work on all of this over the last few months...geez, has it been that long?

John

bjk3047 · #**144** 08-05-2003, 02:32 PM

In light of the new questions in the BW Q&A, I think this thread should be unearthed (and perhaps...*gasp* finished). I have been working on the remaining people on the tree in little spurts. Billy's almost done, and then it's just Rick and Bekka to go. Then titling, acknowledgements, and submission to Marty

.

As for the BW answer, which if any vocalalists from Ivory Hudson & Co. were in the Seven Souls? Is that another question to be asked?

-Brian

Merf · #**145** 08-05-2003, 02:52 PM

Brian,

I just went through this whole thread-- you did an amazing job on the family tree! This is so great.... wow.....

wetcamelfood · #**146** 08-05-2003, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bjk3047
In light of the new questions in the BW Q&A, I think this thread should be unearthed (and perhaps...*gasp* finished). I have been working on the remaining people on the tree in little spurts. Billy's almost done, and then it's just Rick and Bekka to go. Then titling, acknowledgements, and submission to Marty .

As for the BW answer, which if any vocalalists from Ivory Hudson & Co. were in the Seven Souls? Is that another question to be asked?

-Brian

Good point, I submitted the Ivory Hudson question so we'll see what he says.

I've also asked when IH&TH "became" the Seven Souls because from the way I read his reply, it looks like he was not actually in IH&TH, he's just saying that's what the band started out as before he came in and then when they changed their name to the Seven Souls is when I guess his pre Mac "branch" would start and IH&TH wouldn't even be in our tree at all because he wasn't there when they were called IH&TH and we only want the tree to include bands where the 16 Mac members were in right so we kind of need the date of when they changed their name anyways to be able to put in a correct start date for the Seven Souls. So hopefully he'll answer that one soon.

I haven't been able to find any solid dates on any of those bands Bekka was involved with mentioned before (or better info on Billy, Rick and everyone else) so I guess after these amendments as you say Brian, that's about as far as we can take it for now.

John

wetcamelfood · #**147** 08-05-2003, 05:29 PM

Oops, one more thing, I noticed in the family tree inside the FM "Show biz blues" CD booklet that they have Jeremy's pre Mac band The Levi Set going from Nov '66 to June '67 consisting of JS (gtr/voc), Ian Charles (drums) & John Charles (bass).

I think these names were submitted earlier in this thread but I don't think we knew which Charles played what and the dates so there it is.

If you prefer scans then let me know and I'll try to get them posted here on Thursday (unless you have this CD already?) It takes both sides of the centerfold though so I'd have to scan it here in a few pieces if needed. So let me know.

John

bjk3047 · #**148** 08-06-2003, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wetcamelfood
Good point, I submitted the Ivory Hudson question so we'll see what he says.

I've also asked when IH&TH "became" the Seven Souls because from the way I read his reply, it looks like he was not actually in IH&TH, he's just saying that's what the band started out as before he came in and then when they changed their name to the Seven Souls is when I guess his pre Mac "branch" would start and IH&TH wouldn't even be in our tree at all because he wasn't there when they were called IH&TH and we only want the tree to include bands where the 16 Mac members were in right so we kind of need the date of when they changed their name anyways to be able to put in a correct start date for the Seven Souls. So hopefully he'll answer that one soon.

I haven't been able to find any solid dates on any of those bands Bekka was involved with mentioned before (or better info on Billy, Rick and everyone else) so I guess after these amendments as you say Brian, that's about as far as we can take it for now.

John

Right, I did notice that IH&TH did not involve BW, but presumably several of the singers transitioned to the Seven Souls.
I understand the lack of horribly concrete information, but I'm just going on a best guess where we need it on Billy and Rick, and I'm fairly confident that I can get some info on Bekka, so we'll just go with what we have.

Merf: Thank you for the kind words! But I must accept on behalf of the 'team'. It's been a real group effort and I wouldn't be able to put any of it together without the other 6-8 people (especially John!) who really made this possible...that sounded wayyy too much like an acceptance speech...

Edit: Re Levi Set: I take your word for it!

That's in there now.
-Brian

wetcamelfood · #**149** 08-06-2003, 07:38 PM

Brian, just notices 2 more quick things in this "Show biz blues" CD booklet tree:

They have Boilerhouse starting in Nov. '67 and...

Christine's pre Chicken Shack band we currently have listed as Shades of Blue and it's actually SOUNDS of Blue. It has been listed both ways in a few places over the years but I personally find Sounds of Blue more likely (for reasons I won't bore you with here) and I think the tree that Johnny Stew had posted early on in this thread from the "Save me" CD single CD booklet also lists Sounds of blue with the more specific dates that we already have on our tree (as for some reason, Frame only has the years for start and end of Sounds... in the attachment here) so if you could change these things as well then I'll be done on this project.

John

bjk3047 · #**150** 08-07-2003, 08:52 PM

I fixed the Levi Set, Boilerhouse, Seven Souls, and Sounds of Blue entries. I also added the Billy entries we could best put together. Proofread if you'd like to

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http://www.geocities.com/bri3047/familytree.html

Rick and Bekka to go...

-Brian