So, In Regard To This New EP......

[Bandon]

Originally Posted by editme2

Interesting....4 songs, and only one of them Stevie's.....She's really digging in her heels about not recording new music with the band. I'm really surprised that she couldn't have provided ONE more song to this effort.....Wonder if she sings on the mystery Lindsey song.....

Yeah, it sounds like it could be a Lindsey Buckingham solo record with a special appearances by Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood, and John McVie.

[MikeVielhaber]

Originally Posted by Bandon

Yeah, it sounds like it could be a Lindsey Buckingham solo record with a special appearances by Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood, and John McVie.

Lindsey wrote songs specifically for the band. I don't understand the downplaying of Mick and John. People saying stuff like it's Buckingham Nicks with a good rhythm section or this comment above. Mick and John are key ingredients that make up Fleetwood Mac. Their presence isn't an afterthought.

[soul_drifter333]

Can you blame Stevie for not wanting to be in a stuck in a multi-million mansion for a few months working with state-of-the-art equipment, having her every whim catered to by a large staff just to make some music that fans might enjoy for a lifetime? C'mon now.
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Originally Posted by StandbackStevie

I really think they can't stand to be in the studio long enough together to record a new full album. I remember hearing when recording the Say You Will album Stevie was not happy about it for some reason,I think Say You Will album was and is an amazing album that is up there with Tusk and Rumours and Fleetwood Mac White album. My guess too that the fighting still goes on thru today.It would be great if they can get in there and do another master piece.I am alright with them touring I think they should throw out the same set list except adding a few gems here and there to the set.It would be interesting if they did a survey for each show and the fans pick the 24 song set list for each show so each show might have a different set list or fans send into a song set list poll and use the top 24 songs in there set list.Any song goes on all the Fleetwood Mac even includes Buckingham/Nicks album.That would be a great set list I think.

[KenshiMaster16]

It'll be all good for me, I'm just gonna add Soldier's Angel and You Can't Fix This to the tracklisting of the EP in my iTunes library and just pretend... Just lie to myself every day lol

Anyways, I still say call in Dave Stewart. They all three worked for Soldier's Angel, just do two more tracks like that. I'm sure they can deal with it.

[Ulpian]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Lindsey wrote songs specifically for the band. I don't understand the downplaying of Mick and John. People saying stuff like it's Buckingham Nicks with a good rhythm section or this comment above. Mick and John are key ingredients that make up Fleetwood Mac. Their presence isn't an afterthought.

It was a former member of the rhythm section who conveyed those sentiments, and I think she was being playful but was also stating what we all know. Sure, Mick and John (especially John) are important to the sound in the studio, but the artistic direction and the thrust of the band is so much Lindsey now, even more than in the past. He's untempered by Christine's caution now, for better or worse. It may as well be BN.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by Bandon

Yeah, it sounds like it could be a Lindsey Buckingham solo record with a special appearances by Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood, and John McVie.

haha, I could quote you and just change the for a

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber

Lindsey wrote songs specifically for the band. I don't understand the downplaying of Mick and John. People saying stuff like it's Buckingham Nicks with a good rhythm section or this comment above. Mick and John are key ingredients that make up Fleetwood Mac. Their presence isn't an afterthought.

Amen. Fleetwood Mac is Fleetwood Mac when Fleetwood and McVie are there and gave their name to it. Stevie wasn't there, what else is new. One can complain about that, But you can't blame the three guys for that. The fact that there are not longer three songwriters, But two, and one sits out, you can still record Fleetwood Mac albums. I say: be my guest, boys. I'm going to enjoy such output.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

If it's that big of a damn deal to Stevie about recording with the band then get Dave to produce 2 or 3 songs and slap Lindsey's vocals and guitars on it. Jesus. It's not that complicated.

Oh, no, please no IYD- production. It is so middle of the road slick that it sucks all FM-character out of it. No no no.

[CADreaming]

I still think there's more to it than all this so called Stevie pouting-heel digging. I mean the woman has said for decades she doesn't believe in breaking up this band, she thinks it makes great business sense to keep that "Big Machine" running, she enjoys the perks, and playing the big arenas with them, and she is very grateful for the success being in Fleetwood Mac brought to her (and Lindsey) and doesn't take that for granted.

Keeping that in mind, being in a band means you play music, you create music, you develop music, you record music, and you sell music.

If Stevie has consistently stood by her commitment to being in Fleetwood Mac (with the exception of The Time era), and it is one of the few things she speaks that consistently about, then it stands to reason she is not stupid enough to think she will never record another Fleetwood Mac album with Lindsey again. Nor would she want to keep that from happening, realistically, even if it means negotiating peace treaties that make everybody happy.

There must be other conversations that are keeping things .... delayed.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

I still think there's more to it than all this so called Stevie pouting-heel digging. I mean the woman has said for decades she doesn't believe in breaking up this band, she thinks it makes great business sense to keep that "Big Machine" running, she enjoys the perks, and playing the big arenas with them, and she is very grateful for the success being in Fleetwood Mac brought to her (and Lindsey) and doesn't take that for granted.

Keeping that in mind, being in a band means you play music, you create music, you develop music, you record music, and you sell music.


There must be other conversations that are keeping things .... delayed.

I agree with you. If there's an EP under FM brand with her in the band, she stands for the output. And I don't buy the whole " she doesn't want to record with LB anymore " . If she stays as happy in this tour as in the first week, she'll record some stuff with Froom and the guys.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Ulpian

It was a former member of the rhythm section who conveyed those sentiments, and I think she was being playful but was also stating what we all know. Sure, Mick and John (especially John) are important to the sound in the studio, but the artistic direction and the thrust of the band is so much Lindsey now, even more than in the past. He's untempered by Christine's caution now, for better or worse. It may as well be BN.

I don't think Christine ever cautioned Lindsey that much in the first place. She didn't restrain him. She brought another dimension that had to be incorporated into what he was otherwise doing. It's not like she said, "don't do that." It's more like they also had to find a way to fit what she was doing in. She may have limited his quantity, because there were 3 songwriters, but not so much his content.

During the Dance interview (for Best Buy) Christine said that she, John and Mick form a bed on which Lindsey can roll around and do whatever he wants.

In saying that, I don't think she exactly meant that the rest of the band is subservient to Lindsey. I think that she meant that he set the direction and they all followed, not mindlessly though. Each bringing their own unique talents, strength, and creativity as they marked the path together, but taking independent strides. When Lindsey works alone, he is responsible for the sound of everything. When he works with FM, he knows that even though he can tell Mick and John where he wants the drum and bass, he can't really micro-manage what they're going to do there.

I know it may have looked like Stevie was directing Mick in IYD, but Lindsey has often talked about Mick not being able to do what Lindsey wanted on a particular song or Mick not being able to do the same thing twice, even. Mick does his own thing and that's even more true of John, who probably doesn't try to cooperate with Lindsey half as much as Mick does. So, FM is never going to be just a backing band for Lindsey or anyone else. They're always going to provide a sound that's different from what Lindsey envisioned in his head and, hopefully, better.

Michele

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by shackin'up

I agree with you. If there's an EP under FM brand with her in the band, she stands for the output. And I don't buy the whole " she doesn't want to record with LB anymore " . If she stays as happy in this tour as in the first week, she'll record some stuff with Froom and the guys.

Well then let the proof be in the pudding. Where is the EP?!

[StandbackStevie]

Originally Posted by soul_drifter333

Can you blame Stevie for not wanting to be in a stuck in a multi-million mansion for a few months working with state-of-the-art equipment, having her every whim catered to by a large staff just to make some music that fans might enjoy for a lifetime? C'mon now.
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..lol I agree totally with you soul drifter on this one,I know she controls the group when she is ready to do something with them maybe they will record a new album and tour next summer and fall.I see maybe another solo albums maybe another unleashed tour part 3 in the future maybe.

[shackin'up]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

Well then let the proof be in the pudding. Where is the EP?!

That's why I said "If there's an EP".

But there Will be.

[Ulpian]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I don't think Christine ever cautioned Lindsey that much in the first place. She didn't restrain him. She brought another dimension that had to be incorporated into what he was otherwise doing. It's not like she said, "don't do that." It's more like they also had to find a way to fit what she was doing in. She may have limited his quantity, because there were 3 songwriters, but not so much his content.

During the Dance interview (for Best Buy) Christine said that she, John and Mick form a bed on which Lindsey can roll around and do whatever he wants.

In saying that, I don't think she exactly meant that the rest of the band is subservient to Lindsey. I think that she meant that he set the direction and they all followed, not mindlessly though. Each bringing their own unique talents, strength, and creativity as they marked the path together, but taking independent strides. When Lindsey works alone, he is responsible for the sound of everything. When he works with FM, he knows that even though he can tell Mick and John where he wants the drum and bass, he can't really micro-manage what they're going to do there.

I know it may have looked like Stevie was directing Mick in IYD, but Lindsey has often talked about Mick not being able to do what Lindsey wanted on a particular song or Mick not being able to do the same thing twice, even. Mick does his own thing and that's even more true of John, who probably doesn't try to cooperate with Lindsey half as much as Mick does. So, FM is never going to be just a backing band for Lindsey or anyone else. They're always going to provide a sound that's different from what Lindsey envisioned in his head and, hopefully, better.

Michele

I don't know. From a few interviews I've read, and from the Rumours reissue notes, I got the impression if musically he did something she didn't like she'd say so. That is what I was referring to.