Message from Wendy Welch (re: BW RRHOF induction)

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Rick wasn't fired, although he's never stated why. Stevie, when she was angry with the band, said that she suspected it was connected to her issues with the band. Although the money and exposure was probably good, I can't imagine BTM was all that rewarding for him.

From what I've pieced together, when Mick broke the band up in early 1996, Christine had already quit, Bekka and Billy moved to Nashville and were already working on their country duo album (though weren't quitting the band), and he had started working with Lindsey.

I'm not sure what Wendy meant. Mick and John have always put a new band together when someone quits. What's odd is that, after Peter quit, whenever they've done albums with new personnel, there have been two new players. Pretty consistent, really.

Future Games: Christine and Welch
Penguin: Weston and Walker
Fleetwood Mac: Stevie and Lindsey
Behind The Mask: Billy and Rick
Time: Bekka and Mason

That's exactly what I've been hearing, that Rick left because of Stevie but I didn't know that Lindsey worked with Billy & Bekka. Interesting.

Maybe Wendy can clarify the "new Fleetwood Mac" thing.

Thanks for clearing up a few things for me

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by Ulpian

This is a very sorry affair. My view is that Bob ought to have been included, and I feel that more keenly now that he is dead.

I do rather wonder about all this naming-and-shaming, though. It's entirely possible that Christine was the one blocking Bob's induction because the of the lawsuit, the details of which we won't know. However, I agree with Michele that it'd be interesting to know how Bob found out that Christine was the culprit. If it was Mick then frankly the man is a coward and not the gentleman he purports to be.

I don't think Mick is a gentleman at all. He will do anything to keep the band together and if that means he has to step on people's hearts, well, that's too bad.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by The Catdancer

That's exactly what I've been hearing, that Rick left because of Stevie

Oh, yes, she said he didn't like what happened with SS.

Michele

[jeremy spencer]

Originally Posted by The Catdancer

I don't think Mick is a gentleman at all. He will do anything to keep the band together and if that means he has to step on people's hearts, well, that's too bad.

...generous and good-hearted.

[HejiraNYC]

Originally Posted by jeremy spencer

...generous and good-hearted.

Thank you for your insight. I think it is so easy for people who don't know the man to come on here and accuse him of all kinds of horrible things. As the figurehead and leader of the band, Mick is not in a position to be everybody's best friend; he often has to make tough, sometimes painful decisions. From the bits and pieces we've heard/read so far, it seems like the RRHOF induction process for FM was fraught with politics, competing interests and personal issues. At the end of the day, it would have been impossible for Mick to make everyone happy, so he did what was in the best interests of those closest to him at the time. I appreciate, Jeremy, that despite your own apparent "snub," you seem to be able to still see the humanity in Mick.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

I appreciate, Jeremy, that despite your own apparent "snub," you seem to be able to still see the humanity in Mick.

Jeremy was inducted, he just wasn't at the ceremony.

[Wendy Welch]

You can all make all the assumptions you want. But I was there and everything I said is the truth.

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Thank you for your insight. I think it is so easy for people who don't know the man to come on here and accuse him of all kinds of horrible things. As the figurehead and leader of the band, Mick is not in a position to be everybody's best friend; he often has to make tough, sometimes painful decisions. From the bits and pieces we've heard/read so far, it seems like the RRHOF induction process for FM was fraught with politics, competing interests and personal issues. At the end of the day, it would have been impossible for Mick to make everyone happy, so he did what was in the best interests of those closest to him at the time. I appreciate, Jeremy, that despite your own apparent "snub," you seem to be able to still see the humanity in Mick.

Have you ever met Mick? I have several times. Oh, and Mr. Spencer was inducted...

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Oh, yes, she said he didn't like what happened with SS.

Michele

Neither did I, it was so unfair to her and her Mom. In the end it all worked out for SS but at the time it was very ugly. At least Rick supported her (according to her )

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by The Catdancer

Have you ever met Mick? I have several times. Oh, and Mr. Spencer was inducted...

Ok so Jeremy was inducted and Bob Welch was not Someone that had that pivotal a role in the band for five albums..there's your trouble.

[Ulpian]

Originally Posted by Wendy Welch

You can all make all the assumptions you want. But I was there and everything I said is the truth.

How was the decision communicated to Bob?

I'm sorry to be so direct, but you've been good enough to engage with us here, so it's worth a try.

[MacShadowsBall]

Originally Posted by The Catdancer

I don't think Mick is a gentleman at all. He will do anything to keep the band together and if that means he has to step on people's hearts, well, that's too bad.

Shame on Mick Fleetwood for keeping our favorite band together through drugs, affairs, solo careers, etc. Perhaps he should have broken up the band for good after Tusk? Spare us of those worthless top hits such as Gypsy, Hold Me, Big Love, Little Lies, Billy, Rick, Dave, and Bekka's worthless talents, the Dance reunion(who needs Silver Springs live), Say You Will, unleashed tour, and the upcoming Mac tour that I'm sure will be a worldwide success.

[The Catdancer]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

Shame on Mick Fleetwood for keeping our favorite band together through drugs, affairs, solo careers, etc. Perhaps he should have broken up the band for good after Tusk? Spare us of those worthless top hits such as Gypsy, Hold Me, Big Love, Little Lies, Billy, Rick, Dave, and Bekka's worthless talents, the Dance reunion(who needs Silver Springs live), Say You Will, unleashed tour, and the upcoming Mac tour that I'm sure will be a worldwide success.

That's not the point. The point is leaving people out.

[BombaySapphire3]

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Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

Shame on Mick Fleetwood for keeping our favorite band together through drugs, affairs, solo careers, etc. Perhaps he should have broken up the band for good after Tusk? Spare us of those worthless top hits such as Gypsy, Hold Me, Big Love, Little Lies, Billy, Rick, Dave, and Bekka's worthless talents, the Dance reunion(who needs Silver Springs live), Say You Will, unleashed tour, and the upcoming Mac tour that I'm sure will be a worldwide success.

Hey you left out the chart topping masterpiece "Time" and it's prestigious tour playing a bill with Reo Speedwagon

[MacShadowsBall]

Originally Posted by The Catdancer

That's not the point. The point is leaving people out.

I understand. I just don't like to see Mick Fleetwood getting all this hate he seems to get over the years, not just over this Bob Welch HOF situation.

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

:

Hey you left out the chart topping masterpiece "Time" and it's prestigious tour playing a bill with Reo Speedwagon

I mentioned Dave and Bekka by name leaving out "Time". Adding in one of Mac's worst albums would have completely screwed up my point.