If you had to choose: MIRAGE vs. TANGO IN THE NIGHT

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

I'm fairly certain that you can put any good Christine hit against Stevie's worst songs, and Stevie will win or at least not loose by a landslide!

Examples...

You Make Loving Fun vs That's Alright
Say You Love Me vs Angel
Hold Me vs When I See You Again

Obviously Ledgies are intitled to their opinions and I think most Ledgies "like" all FM songs regardless of the singer/writer. Even me, Lindsey's songs are always my least favorite, and yet I have several Lindsey favorites - including all of his songs from the white album and Rumours.

Getting back to Mirage vs Tango in the Night. If you don't like songs from the '80s that sound too much like songs from the 80s, then yeah you're not gonna like Tango, even if you did like it back in the day when the album came out!

What is your point? You Make Loving, Say You Love Me and Hold Me win hands down. These are some of Fleetwood Mac greatest songs. The comparison is idiotic.

[MacShadowsBall]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

What is your point? You Make Loving, Say You Love Me and Hold Me win hands down. These are some of Fleetwood Mac greatest songs. The comparison is idiotic.

My main point was that I and few others feel that when any of Stevie songs are up against any of Christine or Lindsey's songs, Stevie's songs win, most of the time. Nothing wrong in that, just an observation.

Partly relating that theory to this Mirage vs Tango thread. Stevie's bad Tango songs are weighing down the votes for the Tango album as a whole. The masterpiece that is Gypsy is giving Mirage a lot of votes...

...in my idiotic opinion!

[redbird]

Originally Posted by elle

just look at all the hate for Christine's songs in that best and worst hit thread! it's almost all Christine's songs that are named the worst by various people - i was completely shocked when first reading that tbh.

Saying that a Christine song is your least favorite hit doesn't mean you hate the song. I might not hate any of their top 40 hits, but one of them is going to be my least favorite and that's what that thread asked for. My most hated FM song isn't even a top 40 hit, neither are some of Stevie's most infamous songs like "When I See You Again", "Silver Girl", etc.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

My main point was that I and few others feel that when any of Stevie songs are up against any of Christine or Lindsey's songs, Stevie's songs win, most of the time. Nothing wrong in that, just an observation.

I don't see how that leads to the conclusion that Mirage is favored over Tango because of Stevie's songs on Mirage. In fact, if people think that Stevie's worst songs are so great, then maybe Tango would suit them just fine. Of course, your theory makes sense if you said that even Stevie's worst album is more liked than Lindsey and Christine's best album, but I just don't think it holds up in an analysis as to why people might choose Mirage over Tango. I don't think Rumours is the more commercially popular album because Stevie's songs on Rumours were better than her songs on Tusk or elsewhere.

And I don't think that Tusk is the more popular album among FM fans because Stevie's songs on Tusk were better than they are on Rumours or elsewhere. To me, it's the weight of the albums in their entirety.

Michele

[Christopher]

Personally, I'd listen to "Welcome To The Room...Sara" AND "When I See You Again" over Chris's "Everywhere" & "Mystified" (and probably "Little Lies" too), as well as Lindsey's "Family Man" & "Caroline' and "You & I, pt.2"...ANYDAY!!

[elle]

Originally Posted by redbird

Saying that a Christine song is your least favorite hit doesn't mean you hate the song. I might not hate any of their top 40 hits, but one of them is going to be my least favorite and that's what that thread asked for.

yeah yeah yeah - hated, least loved, least popular... whateva

in any case i was shocked to see that many many more people have chosen one of Christine's hits as their least favorite over something like the widely despised Oh Diane

[elle]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

The comparison is idiotic.

Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall

...in my idiotic opinion!

[redbird]

"Oh Diane" only charted in the UK, so I bet it's because all the American fans could never get sick of it. Unlike eg "Don't Stop", it probably doesn't come to mind as easily.

[elle]

Originally Posted by redbird

"Oh Diane" didn't even chart in the States so all the American fans could never get sick of it (unlike eg "Don't Stop"), it probably doesn't come to mind as easily. It was only top ten in the UK.

there you go again with serious argument

[gypsy-sara]

Originally Posted by Christopher

Personally, I'd listen to "Welcome To The Room...Sara" AND "When I See You Again" over Chris's "Everywhere" & "Mystified" (and probably "Little Lies" too), as well as Lindsey's "Family Man" & "Caroline' and "You & I, pt.2"...ANYDAY!!

I agree - though I do love every single song on "Tango In The Night"!

This would be my ranking:

1) Isn't It Midnight
2) Tango In The Night
3) Big Love
4) When I See You Again
5) Seven Wonders
6) Welcome To The Room... Sara
7) Caroline
8) Family Man
9) You And I Part II
10) Little Lies
11) Everywhere
12) Mystified

I do NOT love every single song on "Mirage"...

"Oh Diane"... I'm sorry, but I just despise it.

[elle]

i'm adding my impressions of these songs:

Originally Posted by gypsy-sara

I agree - though I do love every single song on "Tango In The Night"!

This would be my ranking:

1) Isn't It Midnight - boring
2) Tango In The Night - eh, i know many love it but not my thing
3) Big Love - eh, doesn't hold the candle to the solo version
4) When I See You Again - yuck
5) Seven Wonders - boring generic pop fluff
6) Welcome To The Room... Sara - yuck
7) Caroline - blah
8) Family Man - yuck
9) You And I Part II - blah
10) Little Lies - cute pop although not my thing
11) Everywhere - same as little lies
12) Mystified - don't care for it
.

1. "Love in Store" - eh
2. "Can't Go Back" - catchy
3. "That's Alright" - heh
4. "Book of Love" - heh
5. "Gypsy" Nicks - can't stand it
6. "Only Over You" - eh
Side two
1. "Empire State" - yuck
2. "Straight Back" - blah
3. "Hold Me" - pop perfection
4. "Oh Diane" - blah
5. "Eyes of the World" - pop perfection
6. "Wish You Were Here" - blah

i guess when i put it that way, trying to decide which of the 2 albums i can kinda stand since most of the songs from either do nothing from me, or i just simply cannot stand them, i'd say Mirage has 2 pop perfection songs for me (Hold Me and EOTW), and one catchy although nothing special - Can't Go Back. while Tango has maybe 3 songs i can kinda like if i'm in the right mood (LL, Everywhere and Tango)... so i guess Mirage would win for me as the album i dislike less? but i really can't stand to listen to either of these albums all the way through.

[FierySequences]

I think I picked TITN over Mirage, but I don't really remember why.

I Love both albums, but not every song. For instance I can live w/o: Only Over You, Straight Back, Mystified. Those are the ones that probably made my decision. I Love all the other ones, or just like them.

For the record, I would choose just about any CM song over Straight Back, The Second Time, No Q's Asked, and Landslide any day. So, for me at least...it isn't always about picking a Stevie song over all others.

Hmmm, with all this discussion and thought provoking points, perhaps I should post a Mirage vs Tango track by track thread?

[Dreamz19]

I voted for Tango because it is one of my favorite Mac albums. Mirage is my least favorite Mac album of the Rumours lineup. I only love half of the songs on there.

[Dreamz19]

Originally Posted by bluefox4000

I, too, took a deep breath and cued up Mirage. For this thread. And..........Sigh.......It was bad Stuff like That's alright, Only Over You, Most of Lindsy's 50's homage, Empire state......are just AWFUL. I don't get the poll results at all. But, you, know, Music is subjective so....... ok.

Mick

I don't get the hate for Only Over You and Empire State. Those two songs seem to be really hated among Mac fans. Those two songs along with That's Alright, Straight Back, Gypsy and Hold Me made Mirage tolerable for me. Besides those songs I don't really care for the album.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Dreamz19

I don't get the hate for Only Over You and Empire State. Those two songs seem to be really hated among Mac fans. Those two songs along with That's Alright, Straight Back, Gypsy and Hold Me made Mirage tolerable for me. Besides those songs I don't really care for the album.

I like those songs too.