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View Poll Results: which IYD song would you like to hear FM do live 2013?
For What It's Worth 6 11.11%
Wide Sargasso Sea 3 5.56%
New Orleans 1 1.85%
Moonlight (A Vampire's Dream) 6 11.11%
Soldier's Angel 13 24.07%
Everybody Loves You 3 5.56%
Ghosts Are Gone 3 5.56%
You May Be The One 16 29.63%
Italian Summer 3 5.56%
Cheaper Than Free (Feat. Dave Stewart) 0 0%
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:00 AM
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Like I said, though, it's nothing new! SN hardcores can also get clique-y and make unflattering comparisons to LB; it's just not as aggressively done because there's no need to try to make up for a lack of external attention to their fave.
I think it is as aggressively done, just not here right now, because those SN fans have left this forum. But when they were here, it was done in droves.

I had no wish to replace those fans with LB fans who acted in the same manner, but it happens on both sides. Until recently, it was much worse from SN fans simply because they outnumbered the Lindsey fans so much. They still outnumber the Lindsey fans, but they don't populate this board, the way they did in the past.

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Old 02-12-2013, 12:09 AM
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It's all good. But for the record, I DO like Lindsey - at least his work with FM. In all fairness, am mostly unfamiliar with his solo work, except for the hits he's had which I enjoy. The only thing I don't like ( if that's accurate) about Lindsey is that during FM shows he takes a lot of the attention, which is probably Stevie's fault because she tends to back away a little during FM shows. So I actually blame her for that.
The only other comment I had about LB was that he tended to yell his songs during the SYW and UL tours. I've been told, however, that he's improved so I'm actually looking forward to seeing him.

I had the pleasure of meeting Lindsey during the Unleashed tour and he was a very sweet guy.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:30 AM
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Iother comment I had about LB was that he tended to yell his songs during the SYW and UL tours. I've been told, however, that he's improved so I'm actually looking forward to seeing him.

I had the pleasure of meeting Lindsey during the Unleashed tour and he was a very sweet guy.
you know, i had Lindsey's Center Stage show from 1992 on the other day, and my teenage son walked by and commented "hey, that's really young Lindsey Buckingham but... what happened to his voice? he sounds soo much better now" (he has seen LB on his 2011 and 2012 solo tours).

that said, i have no clue how he might sound on FM tour. it is possible that for their respective solo tours, both Lindsey and Stevie sing in whatever key best suits their current voices - and when they do FM they need to find something that suits both of their voices. maybe that's much harder, i don't know - we shall see (well, hear)!
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:02 AM
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It's all good. But for the record, I DO like Lindsey - at least his work with FM. In all fairness, am mostly unfamiliar with his solo work, except for the hits he's had which I enjoy. The only thing I don't like ( if that's accurate) about Lindsey is that during FM shows he takes a lot of the attention, which is probably Stevie's fault because she tends to back away a little during FM shows. So I actually blame her for that.
The only other comment I had about LB was that he tended to yell his songs during the SYW and UL tours. I've been told, however, that he's improved so I'm actually looking forward to seeing him.

I had the pleasure of meeting Lindsey during the Unleashed tour and he was a very sweet guy.
Not to nitpick, but Lindsey doesn't "take" the attention. He "earns" it by working his ass off. Read almost any review from the last two tours, and they'll back me on that.

That's not Stevie's fault. He's just that good, and it has nothing to do with what she does, or does not do. I don't think she holds back, anyways. She just hasn't been at the top of her game, especially on the UL tour. Rhiannon is my favorite example. I always want her to get into it, and go to town, but she never does anymore. I sincerely hope she brings it this time, though, because I, too, like the whole band and would love for them all to be at their best.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:39 AM
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That's not Stevie's fault. He's just that good, and it has nothing to do with what she does, or does not do. I don't think she holds back, anyways. She just hasn't been at the top of her game, especially on the UL tour. Rhiannon is my favorite example. I always want her to get into it, and go to town, but she never does anymore. I sincerely hope she brings it this time, though, because I, too, like the whole band and would love for them all to be at their best.
Well, you are too kind. I'm an avid SN fan and I totally get what you are saying. (Yes, she lead me to the band, I will not deny) But in the process I fell in love with Chris and Linds and all.

You are correct she seems a little lackluster with the Mac. This is not true of her solo performances (when I saw her in 2011) and the more recent clips with Dave Ghrol.

As I told my sister in 2009 that she seems to stear away from the spotlight with the Mac. She does her Dreams and (usually) delivers the goods with GDW and SB, but pretty much takes a backseat for the rest of the show.

My original theory behind this act was b/c she had a more sucessful solo career than LB (in the beginning) and she was just trying to be gracious towards LB. However, with LB's more recently popularity and output, I tend to believe that Stevie is just not feeling the "boys club" on tour and deeply misses Christine.

I could be totally off in my assesment and it is quite possibly that she is feeling a little inferior to LB. He's had at least 2-3 popular albums in the past few years compared to her one popular solo effort. IDK, I'd still like to believe that Stevie misses Chris a great deal and that explains her lackluster performances with the Mac. She does seems to get along great with her solo male-counterparts.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:19 AM
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Not to nitpick, but Lindsey doesn't "take" the attention. He "earns" it by working his ass off. Read almost any review from the last two tours, and they'll back me on that .
This. Lindsey is just being Lindsey. He can't help it if he happens to be that incredible.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:25 PM
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Fleetwood Mac would bomb without Lindsey.

Lindsey IS Fleetwood Mac.

Lindsey lifts that band to heady heights and makes the shows rock.

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No. Fleetwood Mac is Fleetwood Mac. If Lindsey were Fleetwood Mac, then we'd all be paying hundreds of dollars to see him alone in a huge arena. Fleetwood Mac is a group that benefits from the combined efforts of ALL of its members.

I really don't understand the need to constantly compare Stevie & Lindsey specifically and pit them (or if not them, then their fans) against each other. The competitive aspect of it all is silly, quite frankly. The actual use of the word "team" is not the issue - and is rather irrelevant - for the chasm is more implied in the tone and nature of many of the posts.

The so-called "teasing" comes off as spiteful and childish. Why can't everyone like what they like and state their opinion without feeling the need to excessively rag on the other or pump their preferred up in a demeaning way? It's unnecessary.

Without the other, we would likely have never even known who either Lindsey or Stevie were. If nothing else, we can all appreciate THAT contribution, no?

For the record, this is coming from someone who is a fan of both (and actually when it comes down to it, I've invested much more time/money on Lindsey).
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:07 PM
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No. Fleetwood Mac is Fleetwood Mac. If Lindsey were Fleetwood Mac, then we'd all be paying hundreds of dollars to see him alone in a huge arena. Fleetwood Mac is a group that benefits from the combined efforts of ALL of its members.

I really don't understand the need to constantly compare Stevie & Lindsey specifically and pit them (or if not them, then their fans) against each other. The competitive aspect of it all is silly, quite frankly. The actual use of the word "team" is not the issue - and is rather irrelevant - for the chasm is more implied in the tone and nature of many of the posts.

The so-called "teasing" comes off as spiteful and childish. Why can't everyone like what they like and state their opinion without feeling the need to excessively rag on the other or pump their preferred up in a demeaning way? It's unnecessary.

Without the other, we would likely have never even known who either Lindsey or Stevie were. If nothing else, we can all appreciate THAT contribution, no?

For the record, this is coming from someone who is a fan of both (and actually when it comes down to it, I've invested much more time/money on Lindsey).
Ooops - you're obviously not used to my caustic humour yet!

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But I'm still right! They would bomb without Lindsey lol
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Ooops - you're obviously not used to my caustic humour yet!

I like to think most Ledgies know me by now!

But I'm still right! They would bomb without Lindsey lol
It all depends on your personal definition of "bomb". FM was excellent b/w 87-92
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:15 PM
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It all depends on your personal definition of "bomb". FM was excellent b/w 87-92
You've gotta be kidding me right? They were cr*p! Rubbish without Linds!

*In my humble opinion*
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Ooops - you're obviously not used to my caustic humour yet!

I like to think most Ledgies know me by now!

But I'm still right! They would bomb without Lindsey lol
humor Viv - you?!?! nah, spiteful and childish, better go stand in the corner (and i think i might join you there just in case)
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humor Viv - you?!?! nah, spiteful and childish, better go stand in the corner (and i think i might join you there just in case)
I am on naughty step thinking about what I said!
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No. Fleetwood Mac is Fleetwood Mac. If Lindsey were Fleetwood Mac, then we'd all be paying hundreds of dollars to see him alone in a huge arena. Fleetwood Mac is a group that benefits from the combined efforts of ALL of its members.

I really don't understand the need to constantly compare Stevie & Lindsey specifically and pit them (or if not them, then their fans) against each other. The competitive aspect of it all is silly, quite frankly. The actual use of the word "team" is not the issue - and is rather irrelevant - for the chasm is more implied in the tone and nature of many of the posts.

The so-called "teasing" comes off as spiteful and childish. Why can't everyone like what they like and state their opinion without feeling the need to excessively rag on the other or pump their preferred up in a demeaning way? It's unnecessary.

Without the other, we would likely have never even known who either Lindsey or Stevie were. If nothing else, we can all appreciate THAT contribution, no?

For the record, this is coming from someone who is a fan of both (and actually when it comes down to it, I've invested much more time/money on Lindsey).

Actually, on this, I'm inclined to agree with Christine who said in 2004 that Fleetwood Mac now is just Buckingham Nicks with a very good rhythm section. That's what I feel anyway.

On Stevie's performances, I felt that in 03 she was nasal and soporific except for Stand Back which just blew the roof off the place. In 09 Lindsey was tremendous, but Stevie's voice sounded much better and she seemed to get into it a little more. That said, she still seemed not to be enjoying it.
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Actually, on this, I'm inclined to agree with Christine who said in 2004 that Fleetwood Mac now is just Buckingham Nicks with a very good rhythm section. That's what I feel anyway.
I never read that but I do agree with Christine. Say You Will was not the Fleetwood Mac I used to expect.

Anyway, as I said, no IYD songs are necessary. Actually no solo song from any member.
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