"You Can't Fix This"

[WildHearted]

I wonder in what way she thinks Glen Jr (RIP) danced with the devil that she and her peers never did?

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[michelej1]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

I wonder in what way she thinks Glen Jr (RIP) danced with the devil that she and her peers never did?

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Yes, it seems to be just luck that they survived, because even if they didn't overdose, you can be especially reckless when you're high. It's a wonder none of them have been in major car crashes. Maybe they always had drivers.

But perhaps Glen's son tried something harder than she did, like heroin, for instance. She might think what she did was safer. Even today I can imagine her lecturing someone not to take Klonopin, but I don't know how adamant she would be that they not use cocaine. I don't think she'd encourage it, but I don't know if she considers it as dangerous, even now.

Michele

[henryscutter]

Originally Posted by elle

yeah, i'm sure we are all biased more or less towards whoever our favorite is.

although must say i was really disappointed with the song and her singing and completely shocked when Grohl then commented how great she sang it?! of course everything he recorded for that real to reel was "amazing" and "f'in great" to him -man's gotta self-advertise i guess

speaking of not hearing how bad stuff sounds, i was also shocked that Lindsey let out that GYOW demo - man, does he sound flat there! if i were him i'd never let that out... he must really not care much what gets out these days since he said they all had to listen to and ok those releases.

re Lindsey shouting - again i was really really surprised starting from april 2011 in Saban on how great he has been singing and sounding. but of course you wouldn't know that if you don't follow what he does solo, or didn't hear his latest One Man Show live release.

Personally I dont mind nasally Lindsey or Stevie (they both can be sometime) The Mirage concert Gypsy is awesome to me, Love every second of it With YCFT = a live song on youtube is never the best representation so I think the song in the movie and on cd is going to rock.

Speaking of the GYOW demo, I have a strange attraction to it. I know its off but it is one of the songs I keep replaying. A bad accident you cant look away from lol

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Yes, it seems to be just luck that they survived, because even if they didn't overdose, you can be especially reckless when you're high. It's a wonder none of them have been in major car crashes. Maybe they always had drivers.

But perhaps Glen's son tried something harder than she did, like heroin, for instance. She might think what she did was safer. Even today I can imagine her lecturing someone not to take Klonopin, but I don't know how adamant she would be that they not use cocaine. I don't think she'd encourage it, but I don't know if she considers it as dangerous, even now.

Michele

Well, Stevie stopped driving in what, '78? So yeah, maybe they were, as you say, careful about it all in their own way.

But it's not as if people intentionally overdose (I shouldn't say that - they DO, of course....but you know what I mean). Someone in FM/their circle easily could have taken one hit too many and gone into cardiac arrest in the coke days, I'm sure. Like you said, it was just luck that nothing that bad ever happened .

I remember from a few articles that it was thought to be prescription drugs and alcohol that he OD'd on.

[Hawkeye]

Wow. That may be my favorite Stevie song of the decade. Too soon to judge but definitely her most intense. Usually her songs of such a sad nature are turned into ballads except for edge, but this song bites hard. It's darkness makes me think of straight back or sisters. And the last 2 minutes had me flashing back to the ends of Rhiannon in the 70s. I'll take a little nasally over a boring new song without a slight nasal.

And the music sounds just like the wall of sound thrown down. I couldn't put my finger on it at first but it just hit me.

[Jondalar]

I don't like her saying that he danced with the devil and then saying her generation did not. Her generation practically invented the devil. That boy was only 18 years old. He didn't know what he was doing.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

Someone in FM/their circle easily could have taken one hit too many and gone into cardiac arrest in the coke days, I'm sure. Like you said, it was just luck that nothing that bad ever happened .

Stevie may not have done heroin, but that's certainly not the only drug that can kill you.

I recall in Stevie's own Behind the Music Paul Fishkin flat out saying they literally had to "scrape her off the floor" during the worst part of her addiction, and stating that there were "near overdoses on the road". I really think luck had a big, big part in why she never died from drugs. The "devil" was certainly trying....

Stevie often says that cocaine didn't impair her creativity but Klonopin did. I'd beg to differ.... some of her material during the coke years, especially as it progressed, became sloppy, unfocused, embarassingly narcissistic at times and her voice got worse. The hyperactivity from coke may make you able to crank out a lotta stuff, but a large percentage of that often isn't very good.

IMO, Stevie absolutely danced with the devil, even if she never took heroin.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Stevie may not have done heroin, but that's certainly not the only drug that can kill you.

I recall in Stevie's own Behind the Music Paul Fishkin flat out saying they literally had to "scrape her off the floor" during the worst part of her addiction, and stating that there were "near overdoses on the road". I really think luck had a big, big part in why she never died from drugs. The "devil" was certainly trying....

Stevie often says that cocaine didn't impair her creativity but Klonopin did. I'd beg to differ.... some of her material during the coke years, especially as it progressed, became sloppy, unfocused, embarassingly narcissistic at times and her voice got worse. The hyperactivity from coke may make you able to crank out a lotta stuff, but a large percentage of that often isn't very good.

IMO, Stevie absolutely danced with the devil, even if she never took heroin.

Amen. I totally agree.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

^ I see what you are saying Elle, but I actually think she does intentionally do other projects to coordinate and promote with FM. By staying out there busy like she likes to do she keeps the FM "brand" in the front of people's minds. Smart. It helps her - but it helps them.

OMG she most certainly does! She is very calculating. She got Glee to do Rumours... She got herself on Crossroads..... she has been very busy. She is fighting for her band and their legacy.

[bluecalmsea]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Stevie may not have done heroin, but that's certainly not the only drug that can kill you.

I recall in Stevie's own Behind the Music Paul Fishkin flat out saying they literally had to "scrape her off the floor" during the worst part of her addiction, and stating that there were "near overdoses on the road". I really think luck had a big, big part in why she never died from drugs. The "devil" was certainly trying....

Stevie often says that cocaine didn't impair her creativity but Klonopin did. I'd beg to differ.... some of her material during the coke years, especially as it progressed, became sloppy, unfocused, embarassingly narcissistic at times and her voice got worse. The hyperactivity from coke may make you able to crank out a lotta stuff, but a large percentage of that often isn't very good.

IMO, Stevie absolutely danced with the devil, even if she never took heroin.

I totally agree! I was so stumped by what she said that I had to look up the details of his death, wondering what he participated in that she hasn't. I'm coming to the same conclusion as some of you- she was purely lucky!

But I really like the song~ especially loved watching her record it in the documentary.

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

I wonder in what way she thinks Glen Jr (RIP) danced with the devil that she and her peers never did?

:/

Originally Posted by Jondalar

I don't like her saying that he danced with the devil and then saying her generation did not. Her generation practically invented the devil. That boy was only 18 years old. He didn't know what he was doing.

We of course don't have all the lyrics, but to me it seems like Stevie is saying she DID dance with the devil. "We don't talk much about it, it goes back so many years, all the times we almost didn't make it..." sounds to me like her godson's overdose really made her realize how close they all actually were. "We made a pact not to dance with the devil" seems like she is talking about how naive they were and that even tho they didn't do heroin they were still dancing with the devil. They thought cocaine was okay because it wasn't heroin and I'm sure Glen thought prescription drugs and alcohol were okay since they weren't cocaine. Glen didn't overdose on heroin and I just think this song is Stevie's blunt realization that if prescription drugs and alcohol could take him out, cocaine and Klonopin could have taken her out at any time. Of course we really need the whole song to jump to any conclusions, but that just my opinion.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

IMO, Stevie absolutely danced with the devil, even if she never took heroin.

I think she thinks that the worst thing cocaine did was give her that hole in her nose.

As for prescription drugs, I think she knows they're deadly.

Michele

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by elle

see to me her voice sounded amazing on that early version of Chain or Dreams. on this one her voice sounded almost as nasal as on her SYW songs.

Stevie's voice has taken on a grittier, deeper, more nasally tone... but I think, more often than not, it conveys the depth of her lyrics even better now than it did in the '70s. There's a resonance that's just so beautiful to my ears.

[bluecalmsea]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

We of course don't have all the lyrics, but to me it seems like Stevie is saying she DID dance with the devil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0r0I7r6BR8

Before the song starts, she said "we did a lot of other things, but we never danced with the devil."

It doesn't seem that way to me, but that's just my opinion

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Josh2003

Someone got it last night!

http://youtu.be/L0r0I7r6BR8

Thanks for posting, Josh!! Wow, this is even more powerful than I expected. Stevie sounded fantastic -- although she was drowned out by the music in some places.
Cannot wait to hear the studio version!