she said - he said why Lindsey Left

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I suspect that it was also Mick's behavior and even John's issues that got to Lindsey as well. He has said as much in the past-- and when he's talked about getting back together with the band for The Dance seeing not just the changes in Stevie but also in Mick was really good. .

Right! In mid 80s, Mick was a heavy cocaine addict, Stevie was in cocaine and then Klonopin. And John was a heavy drinker (Mick told in his book he was suffering a serious artistic block). It wasn't the best context to produce a good album, however Tango in the Night did it more than fine. Probably Lindsey felt exhausted, tired, angry and saturated after a big effort to produce and collaborate in a FM album (he didn't ask for in the first place) among people not doing their best. But that doesn't mean it was "because Stevie" specifically.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

Again, the sensational way in which she described it - "his beloved ex-girlfriend was going to live" so he could join FM again - probably (maybe definitely :laugh) a little over the top.

Part of him was horrified that his beloved ex-girlfriend would die, part of him was horrified she wouldn't.

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Part of him was horrified that his beloved ex-girlfriend would die, part of him was horrified she wouldn't.

Michele

exactly!

[I'msoAfraid95]

Ill believe Lindsey's story over Stevie`s because its more of whatvI think is the truth. I do think that Stevie's poor health might have been *part* of what caused Lindsey to leave.

[WildHearted]

They're not conflicting stories, though. The fact that they got split into two different articles is unfortunate because it makes it seem as if these things were said independently of one another, when they weren't.

Stevie just exaggerated elaborated more than Lindsey did.

[michelej1]

Mick said that Stevie told Lindsey he'd never love anyone but himself and that makes me think what he said that caused her to respond with that line. Did he say something about love?

Michele

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Mick said that Stevie told Lindsey he'd never love anyone but himself and that makes me think what he said that caused her to respond with that line. Did he say something about love?

Michele

I was wondering the same thing. I would infer that he must have.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

I was wondering the same thing. I would infer that he must have.

He might have said, "you're my beloved ex-girlfriend and I can't bear to see you like this."

She responds: "You'll never love anyone but yourself."

He then says, "Get this schizophrenic b---- off of me!"


Michele

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by michelej1

He might have said, "you're my beloved ex-girlfriend and I can't bear to see you like this."

Michele

And the truth comes out!

[Andrew Smith]

I've always thought that this was the worst thing to happen in Fleetwood Mac's history. They had just produced this great album which Lindsey had put alot of effort into and played a big part in, but then pulled out of the tour to support this album. I have nothing against Billy Burnette and Rick Vito. They were good players, but Lindsey should've been on that tour and played a big part in it, just like he had done on the Tango In The Night album. It wouldn't of been so bad if he had left at the end of the tour and then made way for Billy Burnette and Rick Vito to join the band to work on the follow-up album (which turned out to be Behind The Mask), plus the two new tracks on the 1988 Greatest Hits album.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

, but Lindsey should've been on that tour and played a big part in it, just like he had done on the Tango In The Night album. It wouldn't of been so bad if he had left at the end of the tour...

Right. That was the plan for a moment, according to Mick:
Finally, Mo Ostin persuaded Lindsey to tour with us for ten weeks. The news was flashed over the telephone. Hey! It's on! ****ing hell! Great! There was a big meeting at Christine's, and Lindsey was enthusiastic. I was thrilled! It's on!

But a week later Lindsey called John Courage and said he had changed his
mind, that he couldn't go through with the tour.

I agree it was a really bad thing that happened to the band, not sure the worst but one of the worsts I think. However it's easy to us the fans to say and wish he shouldn't left FM. But who know how the recording sessions were. The only document I found about it is Mick's book, and it's not as detailed as the Rumours episode. I think they didn't enjoyed it, specially Lindsey. The record was great but probably meant a great effort. A hidden effort to the public.

But the tour is differente. They MUST enjoy to do it. Cause if you don't enjoy something (specially in public), it's better not to do it, you shouldn't do it, because then it will become wrong and the whole thing will collapse and... it would be very embarrasing.

That's why, even though I wish to see Christine with them again, I'd hate to see an upset Christine on stage. She must enjoy it, otherwise it's better not to see her with the band.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

, but Lindsey should've been on that tour and played a big part in it, just like he had done on the Tango In The Night album. It wouldn't of been so bad if he had left at the end of the tour...

Right. That was the plan for a moment, according to Mick:
Finally, Mo Ostin persuaded Lindsey to tour with us for ten weeks. The news was flashed over the telephone. Hey! It's on! ****ing hell! Great! There was a big meeting at Christine's, and Lindsey was enthusiastic. I was thrilled! It's on!

But a week later Lindsey called John Courage and said he had changed his
mind, that he couldn't go through with the tour.

I agree it was a really bad thing that happened to the band, not sure the worst but one of the worsts I think. However it's easy to us the fans to say and wish he shouldn't left FM. But who know how the recording sessions were. The only document I found about it is Mick's book, and it's not as detailed as the Rumours episode. I think they didn't enjoyed it, specially Lindsey. The record was great but probably meant a great effort. A hidden effort to the public.

But the tour is differente. They MUST enjoy to do it. Cause if you don't enjoy something (specially in public), it's better not to do it, you shouldn't do it, because then it will become wrong and the whole thing will collapse and... it would be very embarrasing.

That's why, even though I wish to see Christine with them again, I'd hate to see an upset Christine on stage. She must enjoy it, otherwise it's better not to see her with the band.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Villavic

That's why, even though I wish to see Christine with them again, I'd hate to see an upset Christine on stage. She must enjoy it, otherwise it's better not to see her with the band.

I don't know. From all accounts, she really wasn't happy during The Dance, but that worked out pretty well for me!

Michele

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I don't know. From all accounts, she really wasn't happy during The Dance, but that worked out pretty well for me!

Michele

Oh Michele.. don't be that cruel .
You are right, but that was 16 years ago.

[Andrew Smith]

Tango In The Night was originally supposed to be a Lindsey Buckingham solo album, until Warner Bros. started putting pressure on the band to record another album, so Tango In The Night ended up becoming a Fleetwood Mac album. Maybe he felt bitter because of this. Maybe he didn't really want Tango to be a Fleetwood Mac album, and maybe this was one of the reasons he left... just a thought.