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Old 11-03-2012, 02:37 PM
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I would love a new Mac album but Stevie seems to really want her solo career props. I think her mothers death has made her face her own mortality. As much as I hate to think about it, she really doesn't have a lot of time. A year and a half world Mac Tour, Bam ...she 's 67. She worked her ass off bouncing between her solo and Mac career....she wants into the songwriters hall of fame, R&R HOF as a solo artist....Is there enough time to get Buckingham Nicks re-released, a few new Mac songs/album, and a solo record...? Something is going to hav't to give, right....
see, the way i look at it, there's enough time if one wants to do it and are inspired. don't blame everybody else or not enough time - those are only excuses - either you want to do it or you don't.

new Mac music can be done before this upcoming tour (there is 6 months till then still!) and promoted with this tour, and maybe come out some time in the middle of the tour - so that would not add any extra time to already carved out time for Mac, right? and how great would that be - didn't i read for months everybody here complaining how this tour will be same old and not promoting any new songs?

but you can't do any of that if you take your time with everything (even if you claim you are working your ass off lol).
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:41 PM
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I would love a new Mac album but Stevie seems to really want her solo career props. I think her mothers death has made her face her own mortality.
i think you are probably right about that. seems to happen to many people: this feeling people get that they are next when generation before them is all gone.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:59 PM
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see, the way i look at it, there's enough time if one wants to do it and are inspired. don't blame everybody else or not enough time - those are only excuses - either you want to do it or you don't.

new Mac music can be done before this upcoming tour (there is 6 months till then still!) and promoted with this tour, and maybe come out some time in the middle of the tour - so that would not add any extra time to already carved out time for Mac, right? and how great would that be - didn't i read for months everybody here complaining how this tour will be same old and not promoting any new songs?

but you can't do any of that if you take your time with everything (even if you claim you are working your ass off lol).
I agree with everything you just said!

I believe every album before Rumours was recorded in less that a year. Beginning with Rumours, Mac albums seemed to be more spaced apart and took over a year to complete. Perhaps the Mac experts could verify what I just wrote...

My point being - they should be able to get a full-album out by November 2013 using the upcoming tour and special appearances/performances after the release date, to promote the Album XYZ.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:50 PM
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i actually really hope Dave Stewart will be / is involved in this whole process if something comes out of it from Stevie's side...
Sure couldn't hurt.

I don't need Madame Nicks to join Fleetwood Mac ever again. The Dave Stewart + Stevie Nicks recording "Annabel Lee" is a classic sound: it out-Fleetwood Macs Fleetwood Mac. I know Mick's the drummer for the track, so that helped. But he does his most '70s-style drumming in decades for Dave.

Also, wouldn't it be fun to see a Clifford Davis-style fake-band fiasco once again? We could all go see Fleetwood Mac next year with a stage filled with imposters!
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:10 PM
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I think it would be selfish for any member of the band to "hold up" the potential of another (final) Fleetwood Mac album. Pretty much everyone who's been in the Fleetwood Mac owes their success in the business having been a member of it. I've said many times that nothing life is guaranteed. A year ago, we could talk about Bob Welch rejoining the band and now he's no longer around. If Stevie isn't interested in making another (final) FM album then leave her out of it. However it should not stop the band from having one final hurrah before everyone truly parts ways.

If things went my way, the final incarnation for the final Fleetwood Mac album and tour would be Lindsey, Rick, Billy, Bekka, John and Mick. What a fantastic sound that lineup would have. Further, I think everyone would have fun with one another and the band can go out on a high and positive note.

Even if you disagree with me in regards to who should be in the band, I think we can all agree that it would be nice to have one last album/tour. It would be a shame for the opportunity to slip by and look back 20 years from now and be disappointed that the band just faded into the ether instead of going out with a bang.

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Old 11-03-2012, 04:54 PM
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Yeah, Stevie shouldn't be holding the Mac back. That said, I don't want her to rush tracks out ala SYW (for some of the tracks she did, anyway) and regret the product and the process later. If the 2013 tour goes well, which it almost surely will, maybe they can look at it again later next year. No rush, they're making the music of their lives between the 4 of them. Once Stevie gets done wit hthis solo/IYD phase, it'll be on the cards again.

Time will tell, but hopefully SYW and maybe a belated EP isn't what we end on.
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A "Fleetwood Mac" without Stevie would be a Lindsey Buckingham solo album with a cool rhythm section. It would be a joke to include it in the FM canon, and appalling for it to go down as the so-called "band's" final effort. I think the guys realize that.

I hesitated to say it before Elle's post, but perhaps Stevie's unhappiness with how her demos were produced in 2003 is why she doesn't do it again this time. (I understand why she would be upset at his butchery of "Smile at You" but I thought he did well otherwise, so I was surprised by the harshness of her criticism later.) Although I'm kind of sick of Dave Stewart always hovering about lately, perhaps he could be allowed to coproduce to assuage Stevie's fears.

Ideally, she'd work with Lindsey during the process herself, but she says it causes too much drama to do so. Yet, it seems LB is definitely willing to accommodate her. That's why I wonder if she is punishing him for something by refusing.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:57 PM
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If things went my way, the final incarnation for the final Fleetwood Mac album and tour would be Lindsey, Rick, Billy, Bekka, John and Mick.

Even if you disagree with me in regards to who should be in the band, I think we can all agree that it would be nice to have one last album/tour. It would be a shame for the opportunity to slip by and look back 20 years from now and be disappointed that the band just faded into the ether instead of going out with a bang.
I hate to be harsh, but the line-up you're suggesting would very definitely be the band fading into the ether. A guaranteed bang would be to have the Rumours 5 do something, but the current foursome could probably do it too if they put some real effort into it.
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The way I see it, if Stevie doesn't want to do it, we should respect her choice just as we respect Christine's. Stevie has given a lot to the band, if she wants to be done, so be it. The guys can record without her. (And actually, I don't think Stevie would want to be left out of what would most certainly be the band's last album. If they started making one in 2014, I bet she would join them.)

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The way I see it, is Stevie doesn't want to do it, we should respect her choice just as we respect Christine's. Stevie has given a lot to the band, if she wants to be done, so be it. The guys can record without her. (And actually, I don't think Stevie would want to be left out of what would most certainly be the band's last album. If they started making one in 2014, I bet she would join them.)
2014?!?!?!?!? they already started making one in 2012 - what reason would they have postpone it for 2 whole years??

i'm sorry but Lindsey fans want Lindsey solo back in 2014. (regardless of what he himself might want ) FM gets 2013 from us and that's it.
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Old 11-03-2012, 06:50 PM
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Seems to me, after listening to all of Stevie's comments about the making of IYD in promoting it and then again recently when promoting the documentary of it, that she really liked that the making of the album became this whole lifestyle thing. She liked that she and everyone else were basically just living this album 24 hrs/day in that big house. Maybe at this stage other members of Mac, due to marriage and children commitments etc, aren't able or willing to just let an album consume 24 hrs a day and instead approach it in a more business-like (to Stevie anyway) fashion-- come in for a few hours, work some tracks, then leave and live the other parts of your life and come back tomorrow.

Interestingly at one of the Q&A sessions at a film festival recently (the video is posted in the Stevie forum) she talks about how she doesn't have a husband or kids and so she gets lonely. She said she had her mom but now her mom is gone and she is lonely. All speculation on my part but it just seems like she wants (and maybe has always wanted) the making of albums to be this sort of alternate universe she can move into full time with a sort of surrogate family and the others have a bit more practical approach because they actually do have families. Not sure if that can be rectified..... A shame though, because like others have already said here, none of them is getting any younger and how much time realistically do they have to crank out more albums??
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2014?!?!?!?!? they already started making one in 2012 - what reason would they have postpone it for 2 whole years??

i'm sorry but Lindsey fans want Lindsey solo back in 2014. (regardless of what he himself might want ) FM gets 2013 from us and that's it.
If 2014 is the only time FM can get it together for a new album, then this Lindsey fan sure as hell would rather him record with FM than do more solo stuff! We've had years of Lindsey doing solo work and the Mac hasn't done anything new in 10 years.
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Wow .Yes .Lindsey.I'm glad he's all in for new recording of Mac tunes.I think Stevie will change suit in time.I hope he and they rest of Mac get into and slap together a new CD in record time and release it quick.
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i'm sorry but Lindsey fans want Lindsey solo back in 2014. (regardless of what he himself might want ) FM gets 2013 from us and that's it.
I consider myself a fan of Lindsey's, but that's not what I want. Michele
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Something is going to hav't to give, right....
Yeah, probably her hip.

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