Improv...endearing or annoying?

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by priestofnothing

I'm OK with most all of Stevie's improvisations. It must get boring sometimes for her to sing the same songs thousands upon thousands of times, so to change it up a bit probably keeps it at least a little interesting for her when performing.

The one that she almost always does that I absolutely can't stand though is during "Beauty and the Beast", after the big crescendo or whatever where she holds out the long note at the end of "I never doubted your beauty, I've Chaaaaaaaaanged" like on the record and then afterward she says "Or at least I'm trying to change" Ugh! I hate that! And I cringe everytime I hear it. Sometimes less is more. And in this case I prefer less. Her ad lib just takes away from the whole big drama of the moment that preceded it.

OK. I'm done. Love ya anyway Stevie. LOL.

Oh. I always loved that BATB ad lib, it makes it all sound so .... tragic and despairing.

[BrownEyedGirl26]

Originally Posted by mitzo

Oh. I always loved that BATB ad lib, it makes it all sound so .... tragic and despairing.

Yes, I've always loved this ending too for the very same reasons!

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

Rhiannon is from Baton Rouge 1978.

Thank you for this.

[britt0308]

Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

Okay, here are the versions of Sara we've been talking about:

Sara, Melbourne 80

https://www.yousendit.com/download/W...TER0NjlFQmRVag

Sara, Cleveland 80

https://www.yousendit.com/download/W...TERoeVlkVU1UQw

They'll only be good for about a week or so (yousendit, not my rule), so please grab them up now.

And just for fun I'm throwing in the Sara from St. Louis in 79. This is the full length soundboard recording from the performance you've seen in the Tusk documentary. That one was recorded from the speakers I believe and then heavily edited, so this one sounds much different but the vocal is the same. There's even a moment in the video where she sings "All I ever wanted was to know...." letting "know" trail off rather than finish the line and in the video you barely hear her and it's kind of echoey. That's because the sound was coming through the vocal monitor but not going out to the audience, so you're actually hearing it through the monitor. In this recording you'll hear her voice fully when she sings that part. It's really cool. And here's a fun fact, this is also the performance they took the music from for the version on Fleetwood Mac Live. Then they went into the studio and redubbed the vocals. Betcha didn't know the one from the live album and the one from the video were the same performance.

Sara, St. Louis in 79

https://www.yousendit.com/download/W...TEQxUUJDaDhUQw

Thanks for the Saras! Cleveland IS so beautiful..

EDIT: Do you know the date for that show as well? I looked at Tusk tour dates and only see Cincinnati and Richfield as Ohio shows.

[UndoingTheLaces]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

Here you go!

Rhiannon is from Baton Rouge 1978.
http://www.mediafire.com/?1op6oyn5kn8dnnr

Dreams is from Austin and Houston 1986. (Improv near the end. Wish these two were better quality!)
http://www.mediafire.com/?bhzp106plwxgdxc

http://www.mediafire.com/?4dfwd33il5xl9p1

Stand Back is from her Solid Gold performance. (Improv near the end)
http://www.mediafire.com/?r6bgjt2ptomlun5

Thank you so much for these. I love those ad libs. I've never heard them.

Some years ago I was on the way to memorial for a friend who had passed and I had only recently found that version of Sara (sorry britt0308, it's been years, I don't recall what the date was, the year was in the title when I downloaded it). I was listening to it when the ending part with Stevie singing "It never really died... oh it was such a heartbeat" and I had to pull off to the side of the road I was crying so hard. It just hit me so strongly. I think that's why this one is so special to me because it reminds me of my friend.

[britt0308]

Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

Thank you so much for these. I love those ad libs. I've never heard them.

Some years ago I was on the way to memorial for a friend who had passed and I had only recently found that version of Sara (sorry britt0308, it's been years, I don't recall what the date was, the year was in the title when I downloaded it). I was listening to it when the ending part with Stevie singing "It never really died... oh it was such a heartbeat" and I had to pull off to the side of the road I was crying so hard. It just hit me so strongly. I think that's why this one is so special to me because it reminds me of my friend.

No worries about the date. Thanks for sharing your story..I think there are those special connections with so many of Stevie's words. I've needed them to get through some hard times and I know that's why she writes them..for us. Thanks again for posting the links!!

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by britt0308

Thanks for the Saras! Cleveland IS so beautiful..

EDIT: Do you know the date for that show as well? I looked at Tusk tour dates and only see Cincinnati and Richfield as Ohio shows.

I can answer this! Cleveland=Richfield. Quite often in the case of touring a band will be listed as performing in the name of the largest city near where they actually are. Richfield, Ohio is a suburb of Cleveland. Largo, Maryland is a suburb of Washington DC. Often it will just say Los Angeles when in fact it's really Inglewood. And so on and so forth all around the world.

[britt0308]

Originally Posted by vivfox

I can answer this! Cleveland=Richfield. Quite often in the case of touring a band will be listed as performing in the name of the largest city near where they actually are. Richfield, Ohio is a suburb of Cleveland. Largo, Maryland is a suburb of Washington DC. Often it will just say Los Angeles when in fact it's really Inglewood. And so on and so forth all around the world.

Ah so smart. Haha thank you, thank you!

[PenguinHead]

Sometimes Stevie's ad-libs work well, and sometimes they don't. Her improvisational skills are questionable. Some are clunky or just plain odd, and can throw off the pacing and the band. But she does hit the mark on occasion. I like it when she adds a well thought out nuance to a song. A good example of this is evident in her performance of the song How Still My Love, as shown on her DVD concert. The added repeated phrase of "should I say" was unexpected and simple, but very effective.

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Sometimes Stevie's ad-libs work well, and sometimes they don't. Her improvisational skills are questionable. Some are clunky or just plain odd, and can throw off the pacing and the band. But she does hit the mark on occasion. I like it when she adds a well thought out nuance to a song. A good example of this is evident in her performance of the song How Still My Love, as shown on her DVD concert. The added repeated phrase of "should I say" was unexpected and simple, but very effective.

I'm a fan of the stuff she added to the end of Beautiful Child, that heartwrenching wail and then "I do love you, I still need you, I wish, I wish that you were mine."

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

Okay, here are the versions of Sara we've been talking about:

Sara, Melbourne 80

https://www.yousendit.com/download/W...TER0NjlFQmRVag

Sara, Cleveland 80

https://www.yousendit.com/download/W...TERoeVlkVU1UQw

They'll only be good for about a week or so (yousendit, not my rule), so please grab them up now.

And just for fun I'm throwing in the Sara from St. Louis in 79. This is the full length soundboard recording from the performance you've seen in the Tusk documentary. That one was recorded from the speakers I believe and then heavily edited, so this one sounds much different but the vocal is the same. There's even a moment in the video where she sings "All I ever wanted was to know...." letting "know" trail off rather than finish the line and in the video you barely hear her and it's kind of echoey. That's because the sound was coming through the vocal monitor but not going out to the audience, so you're actually hearing it through the monitor. In this recording you'll hear her voice fully when she sings that part. It's really cool. And here's a fun fact, this is also the performance they took the music from for the version on Fleetwood Mac Live. Then they went into the studio and redubbed the vocals. Betcha didn't know the one from the live album and the one from the video were the same performance.

Sara, St. Louis in 79

https://www.yousendit.com/download/W...TEQxUUJDaDhUQw

thanks for these UndoingtheLaces!! Man, she really was so hit-or-miss on the road. In part one suspects, because she really didn't know how to take care of her voice properly, among everything else she was doing

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

I'm a fan of the stuff she added to the end of Beautiful Child, that heartwrenching wail and then "I do love you, I still need you, I wish, I wish that you were mine."

Oooh yeah!

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

I'm a fan of the stuff she added to the end of Beautiful Child, that heartwrenching wail and then "I do love you, I still need you, I wish, I wish that you were mine."

I have loved all of her improv's over the years except the one from Beautiful Child. To me this always sounded like she didn't know what to do with herself so she just garbled out these words at the end. Vocally, it should have ended with the wail.

[fairydust75]

Speaking of Beautiful Child, can anybody give me any insight or has Stevie ever elaborated on the meaning behind the song. What was her inspiration? The first verse especially? I love the SYW tour version.!

[mottabam]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

I actually love most of her improv! Some of my favorites are:

Outside the Rain:
"Look in my eyes, touch my face, do you think baby, there's anyone in this whole wild world that could ever replace me? I don't think so! But if so then take it away!

^
I love this line! my fav Improv for sure. I hope she performs OTR on her next solo tour. It is a great opener as well.