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"I don't really need this in my life -- so why don't we forget about it?" |
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I don't really see any big uprising against her desires now. Michele
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I don't recall saying there's a major brouhaha. Only that it seemed, to me, more fans were accepting of Lindsey's desire to pursue his solo endeavors.
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Sorry for not having clarified in my first post about the festival .She did include the tour as part of the three year process.
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I just got home and will have to read through all of these posts tomorrow to see if I remember anything that no one else has mentioned, but one thing I want to post right now......Stevie was sitting right behind me for the entire film!!!!! It's a wonder I could focus enough to remember the movie at all.
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Maybe "more patient with" would have been a better choice of wording on my part, than "more accepting of."
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Wow. 3 years recording a record.I love to see FM recording new tunes.I had a feeling that Stevie was not really into making another FM record.I can't blame her about the stress in recording studio with the bickering going on.
I don't see no since why FM or any other bands got to draaaaaaag out these recording sessions so long. Other artists spend probably a month or two in the studio and have a couple number one hits from the recording and clean house on the awards shows. Also radio sucks with older artists.We found that out with IYD .They wont play new FM tunes. As I was watching the IYD docu.The recording went smooth with a little or no problems and Stevie had fun doing it.Thats the way it should be. I would love to see Dave and the same IYD team tackle a FM recording. I have a bad feeling this upcoming tour will be their last.I hope I'm very wrong about this.
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I think the main reason they won't record another record again is painfully obvious.
It wouldn't make any money. Let's think about this. In 1980, Michael Jackson was getting the highest royalty rate in the history of music. Depending on what you read, it was 37% of wholesale album profit. Probably unheard of before or since. If you think about 1980 - that was maybe 1.50 a record. Maybe. More like 1.oo. Albums were about 5.99 in those days. Maybe 6.99. I am rounding up in a big way as I clearly remember paying 3.99 for many albums around those days. But let's be generous. Let's say that FM has an outrageous royalty rate leftover from their heyday. Say, 25%. Of wholesale. Keep in mind Tom Petty's huge fight with MCA in 1981 - over the "superstar" list price of his record being 9.98 instead of 8.98. Regardless, that record was 5.99 everywhere. I got Bella Donna for 5.99. Still has the sticker on it. So wholesale was probably 3.99. Even at 25% that is 1.25 a record. Consider SYW. If you can. List price was what? 15.99? I think I paid 11.99. That puts whole sale at 9.99. Tops. More like 8.99. If they have that crazy 25% rate they make 2.25 record. It sold what 800,00 copies? Okay. Let's say that. That equals 1,798,000 dollars. Minus 10 months in the Bel Air house at 25k a month. That's about 1.5 left. Producer fee? 200 easy. 1.3 mil left. Mixing and mastering? 100k. Now we are at 1.2. Fees for musician time? Another 100. Misc catering and assistants? 200 easy. Now it is 900k. Packaging deduction? About 20%. We are at 720k. Publicity? 250 easy. Now it is 470k. Photography and makeup and photoshoot foolery? 100k. That leaves 370k. Split 4 ways? Maybe 90 a piece. Minus taxes? 60k a piece. And I left out lawyers. And promo copies which are about 10% of total sales. If they broke even on SYW I will eat my drawers. And IYD? She lost a mint. It sold what, 75k? Maybe? Do the math. That video shoot alone was 1o0k if it was a dime. Even if a new FM record sold 500k, and that is a dream, they'd be a million in the hole. No new record. No way, no how. The tour will make 25-40 million. Minus 40% overhead. At the top end Stevie would clear about 9 , Lindsey 7, Mick and John maybe 4 million a piece. The math is where it is at folks. Follow the money.
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250k saved by not renting a house. 200k saved by producing their own album. (Stevie wouldn't want THAT to happen tho, but they could still hire a cheaper producer) 100k saved by not paying "musician time." I'm assuming that means paying other people to come in and play certain instruments, such as Sheryl Crow, but hell, who needs them? Fleetwood Mac is a band! Play your own damn instruments! They could reduce the costs of all of those items immensely if they felt they were not going to sell a bunch of copies of the album. They could also ditch their record label. If WB isn't financing anything, then why the hell do they get 75% of the wholesale value?! Of course an album won't generate $25 million in sales, much less $40 million, so touring is always more lucrative. However, it does not mean that they cannot make a profit with a new album, and a new album always leads to a tour. I don't know how much money Stevie made or lost on IYD, but I guarantee you she sold some extra tickets and was able to book her own headlining tour because of that album. Without IYD, Stevie would have been relegated to only casino shows and Heart and Soul.
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Stevie announced in the summer of 2001, during her TISL tour, that Mick and Lindsey had just rented a house to begin recording in for FM and she would be joining them when her tour was over.
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I was thinking about how much money that the record companies raped Stevie and FM over the years the same goes for other artists too.
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Skip R........ the Wildheart at Edge of Seventeen and the Gypsy..... My sweet Buttons .I love you. RIP 2009 to 08/24/2016 |
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Totally different subject, but I heard that there were some Ledgies that definitely cut to the front of the line where people were lined up for this event. I won't mention any names as to who it was, but I was surprised to hear this. I know we all want to be as close as possible for events like these, but it shouldn't be to the expense of others that had been waiting there for hours before. It's sh**ty and unfair. I know it's water under the bridge now, but I just thought I'd mention it so perhaps those "Ledgies" think twice next time.
Sorry to shake my finger, but I had to. Jamie
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Last edited by jkmaletic; 10-15-2012 at 01:05 PM.. |
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Maybe one.
Security was very nice and since Dawn & I got there at 11a.m-we made VERY sure of the pecking order. It's not that there isn't plenty of room, it's the etiquette of such things. There were 9 of us that were having a real tough time of it keeping 2 additional people at arms length. They got there maybe idk 3ish and were no doubt there early but NOT before us, and we had a hell of a time, and eventually a verbal match w/ them about the order of things and that it's just polite and the way it should be. The group of 9 were milling about talking to others and so if at any given time, we weren't all there, we all still knew who was first, second etc. NO ONE was given front of line grants. That's just not cool and I've been to TOO many shows where that happens. If you are expecting a large group, you just let those behind you know hey...just fyi I have "x" amt of ppl coming, and if the ppl you told later realize there is WAY THE HELL more than the # you gave, call them on their bs! If the 2 "ladies" were Ledgies, I'd be aghast. |
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