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Originally Posted by Lindsfan
Thanks for reminding me  How did I neglect to mention that??!!
She does talk out of both sides. You got that right! But again, what else is new?  Anyways, I think the quote was he was taking lyrics pills though wasn't it? Which is another gripe of mine. In fact, I meant to ask him about that in a meet and greet. Her implying he's not much of a lyrics writer, at least until SWS, bothers me to no end. But of course, he's no better. He's often said he doesn't think much of his own lyrics eihter  They're both wrong. He's a brilliant lyricist. Has been for a long time.
And that last comment is a major understatement. I'd say several steps.
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Most of her quotes she just mentioned melody pills but I did find the Perez Hilton quote about SWS: "But it's my favorite thing he's ever done. I think it's brilliant. I think he took some serious melody pills and lyric pills and he came up with a beautiful, beautiful album."
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Originally Posted by elle
i'm possibly reading way too much into it, but like Lindsfan, this jumped out at me as really annoying when i was listening to the interview. plus i think she repeated it couple of times (maybe during convo and then after movie q&a), as to drive home a point that LB contributed to her songs nothing more than just a chord here and there and producing them.
Landslide and Gypsy or Rhiannon are great examples - the guitar melodies and chords in these songs are so distinctive. did Stevie come up with any of those? start of Rhiannon? or Lindsey did change them, after all?   LB never received any co-credit; that was just extra chord, arranging, or producing. he contributed nothing more. unlike Dave who has co-writing / music credit for most of the IYD songs.
that said, i do think Dave wrote much more music for her IYD songs than Lindsey did for her older songs. it seems she had no melody to start with for most of those IYD songs co-credited to Dave.
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I think the Lindsey sensitivity is a little blinding, and understandably so. Stevie gets tripped up on herself sometimes. She really isn't insulting Lindsey's work on her songs, but she digs herself a hole and doesn't know how to get out of it. She would be stupid to say she hated his work on all of her hits. And, time and time again she has praised his work and said he could take her stuff and do what she couldn't do for herself. "When I see you doing what I try to do for me..."
And, not to start argument -- but give her
some credit. Both she and Lindsey have said she has the melody and basic song structure down when she gives it to him. The Rhiannon "riff" -- her piano version has that in it, it's just not a "riff". I think it's interesting though to hear their explanation. Lindsey said his tendency was just to "add rhythm and rock it up".
See their explanation here at :43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4hp3...hannel&list=UL
You're right about Dave though. And, he isn't credited on every song on IYD. The fact is, he is not credited at all on the songs she already had on demo (Secret Love, Moonlight, Annabel Lee, Soldier's Angel) and the two songs she wrote with guitar tracks from Mike Campbell and Neale Heywood. Waddy is also credited on Annabel Lee so he must have worked on the original song they tried to track in the 90's. For all the other songs, Dave took poems she had and put music and then told her to sing. So, he did write the music and she had no preconceived notions about the melody or anything else. And, that is what has been different about this process for her and how she has been used to doing things all of career. She wrote the songs and then trusted Lindsey to make it into something you would listen to.
"Lindsey pretty much, and the band, would take my skeletal songs…. and…. work them out… with me listening, to make sure that I liked them…. Umm… and- and do them pretty much on their own, and the only time that I would stop them is if I- if they did something to one of my songs that I really didn’t like… which happened very seldom."
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Originally Posted by elle
i think i read somewhere not long ago LB came up with Rhiannon riff / progression, i believe it was said by someone from FM, or maybe it was Gary Hodges? (but i might be wrong).
no idea about Landslide. maybe watching that video on youtube where Lindsey teaches how to play Lanslide, Big Love and something else would clarify it. he starts by saying "Landslide is a song that Stevie wrote" but don't remember whether he talks about what exactly he added to it, it's very possible he does.
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Stevie wrote Landslide on the guitar in Aspen alone by herself when everyone else had gone out.
I think if Lindsey thought he needed to be given writer's credit, he would argue that point. (He may lose, but he would argue it. lol)