Ann & Nancy Couldn't Match Stevie's Intake

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Well, she's certainly taken her fair share of shots at Lindsey over the years and am certain she didn't clear any of them with him beforehand... And she's taken her shots at Mick as well. The only one I don't recall her taking any shots at in the band has been Christine.... but I'd be afraid of doing that too!

During the SYW promotion she did say a couple of things. They weren't shots exactly, but it made me think there was a little feeling of rejection surrounding Christine.

She said that during The Dance even Christine could see that Stevie and Lindsey just wanted to sing alone. That made it sound like the two of them together again made Christine feel like an outsider.

Then, in another interviewer Stevie said Christine didn't want to be in the band 'and if that's what Christine wants, then that's what Christine gets.'

Just a transitory comment that suggested more to me than Stevie actually said. I sensed a little upset. I don't think Stevie meant it in any kind of longlasting way at all, but I do remember a couple of instances where I felt she was feeling a little "so there" towards Christine. But bottom line is I believe, with the exception of Mick, they all were a little hurt by Christine leaving. Like a lover saying, "it's not you it's me." It might be the truth, but it smarts. They know Christine did it for her own needs and reasons and it wasn't because she hated their guts and Lindsey even said as much: that he empathized with her decision. He said he knew how Christine felt having left himself, but I think they still felt a little rejected. Stevie, John and Lindsey.

Michele

[elle]

Originally Posted by WildHearted

She didn't say anything negative about Christine at all though. Quite the contrary.

she didn't mean to, no.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

she didn't mean to, no.

I remember being in the audience during an SYW show and a guy in back of me said when he first saw it, he didn't even notice that Christine was gone because Brett kind of looked like her and even had the same hair style. Huh?

What Stevie said about being able to go on because their stage set was the same kind of made me think of that comment.

It would be so hilarious if she said she didn't like the Cage tour because the stage set was different and there were 2 men there instead of just one guitarist and one of them was a red head, so that really threw her off.

Michele

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by michelej1

It would be so hilarious if she said she didn't like the Cage tour because the stage set was different and there were 2 men there instead of just one guitarist and one of them was a red head, so that really threw her off.

Michele

Oh dear.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by michelej1

During the SYW promotion she did say a couple of things. They weren't shots exactly, but it made me think there was a little feeling of rejection surrounding Christine.

She said that during The Dance even Christine could see that Stevie and Lindsey just wanted to sing alone. That made it sound like the two of them together again made Christine feel like an outsider.

Then, in another interviewer Stevie said Christine didn't want to be in the band 'and if that's what Christine wants, then that's what Christine gets.'

Just a transitory comment that suggested more to me than Stevie actually said. I sensed a little upset. I don't think Stevie meant it in any kind of longlasting way at all, but I do remember a couple of instances where I felt she was feeling a little "so there" towards Christine. But bottom line is I believe, with the exception of Mick, they all were a little hurt by Christine leaving. Like a lover saying, "it's not you it's me." It might be the truth, but it smarts. They know Christine did it for her own needs and reasons and it wasn't because she hated their guts and Lindsey even said as much: that he empathized with her decision. He said he knew how Christine felt having left himself, but I think they still felt a little rejected. Stevie, John and Lindsey.

Michele

Hmm.. maybe some residual unhappiness that Chris left her on her own with "the boys"..? Stevie and Chris were, certainly for some period, a powerful political unit (for lack of a better term) in the band. I'm sure Christine's leaving left Stevie in a less defined role at least for a time.

Totally agree that there seems still to be a residue of hurt and disbelief on some level within the band that Christine would want to leave. (I personally applaud Christine for not making her career everything).

I didn't get the sense that Christine left because she was tired of being in the band or working with the band members, but that her real fear of flying was just never going to fit with the bands gung ho touring schedule.

[starshine]

Originally Posted by Fannymac

Sorry.....love Stevie to death, but I can't support her on this one....it happened, deal with it! You think that when Stevie gets around to writing the book she's been promising for years that SHE'S clearing every little story with everyone involved?!?
I SERIOUSLY doubt it!

I think I agree with you. Stevie wants to change history all the time it seems. Even if she does finally write that 'book' and only puts the 'best' parts than personally I'd feel cheated. She doesn't have to 'tell' all but she does need to be honest about some of the bad parts as well. Not everyone's life is all 'good' & 'fluff'. To me that would be dishonest. You have to have tell the good with the bad they go hand in hand period. At least IMO anyway. I guess she can tell it her way which I guess is fine. It is what it is. I agree about the deal with it too. You can't censor everyone. Stevie can't censor Ann & Nancy --well I guess she could sue them but I hope not that would be sad really. I did think they were friends at least somewhat. Or at one time?

[QueenStevie]

Should we ask Ann and Nancy about Stevie's being referenced in their book via this YouTube link?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt04l-KM2B4

[fairydust75]

I think that Stevie has been open and honest about her past drug abuse. Since The Dance she has been asked the same questions over and over. She has admitted that she was an addict. She has been clean since '94, and is done talking about it and I don't blame her. She has moved on... I think the point she was trying to make was that if you wish to rehash that part of her life, go and dig thru all those old articles and read it over and over until your as high as she was back then. If and when she writes her bio, she wants to tell you the story of all the amazing things that she has been truely blessed to have experienced. Wow! What a life she has lived. She wants the reader to see what her eyes have seen from the perspective she has now that she is older, wiser, and sober. She has lived thru the hell of her addictions and was lucky enough to have survived. If your holding your breath for a juicy, tell all full of freaky sex and mountains of coke and pills, it won't be written or authorized by Mama...

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by fairydust75

I think that Stevie has been open and honest about her past drug abuse. Since The Dance she has been asked the same questions over and over. She has admitted that she was an addict. She has been clean since '94, and is done talking about it and I don't blame her. She has moved on... I think the point she was trying to make was that if you wish to rehash that part of her life, go and dig thru all those old articles and read it over and over until your as high as she was back then. If and when she writes her bio, she wants to tell you the story of all the amazing things that she has been truely blessed to have experienced. Wow! What a life she has lived. She wants the reader to see what her eyes have seen from the perspective she has now that she is older, wiser, and sober. She has lived thru the hell of her addictions and was lucky enough to have survived. If your holding your breath for a juicy, tell all full of freaky sex and mountains of coke and pills, it won't be written or authorized by Mama...

I think you're right. Also, I would be happy with that kind of book because it would be more positive than a tell-all gossip fest. I love Ann and Nancy to death. They are probably my favorite women in rock behind Stevie, but I am a little more than half-way through their book and I'm becoming less and less interested in reading it. I'm kind of disappointed that they chose to write a book with the snarky gossipy bits included. That doesn't seem to be their style in other aspects of their lives, so I'm not sure why they chose to include the dirt in their book. I was thinking with regard to some of the male artists they talk about, that they are trying to emphasize the sexism that they experienced ALL THE TIME, but what about Stevie? Why include as one of your only meaningful encounters with her, an emphasis on her drug addiction? Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'm not the biggest fan of tell-all books when it comes to my favorite musicians. I guess I'm more interested in the music, how it was made, the inspiration for it, the artists' background and how they grew up, etc. I'm not particularly interested in who was the biggest asshole and who did the most drugs. I mean really, who cares? And with regard to Stevie, it's pretty common knowledge that she was a big-time drug addict back in the day, so no news there. I think they bring it up because they are forever trying to downplay their own drug use throughout the book. It's all "oh THEY did a mountain of drugs and we were asked and said "no." I'm sure they did their own fair share too.

[QueenStevie]

Originally Posted by QueenStevie

Should we ask Ann and Nancy about Stevie's being referenced in their book via this YouTube link?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt04l-KM2B4

Spread the word! YouTube comments about Stevie's being included in their book have been CENSORED!!! So much for the Wilson sisters' believing in Freedom of Speech!

[KarmaContestant]

This is all silliness. Ann and Nancy are telling their story, and that story sometimes includes other people. They have every right to say who they did drugs with and how much, if they feel like doing so. It was no longer just Stevie's business when she included others in her activites.

Stevie might not like it, but it's not her choice to be included - or not - in someone else's book. If there's such a problem with the story and she feels misrepresented, well, that's what slander and libel suits are for.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Stevie might not like it, but it's not her choice to be included - or not - in someone else's book. If there's such a problem with the story and she feels misrepresented, well, that's what slander and libel suits are for.

I have not heard a thing about Stevie being upset about the book.I doubt she feels misrepresented either since for years she has freely shared details of her cocaine consumption .

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

This is all silliness. Ann and Nancy are telling their story, and that story sometimes includes other people. They have every right to say who they did drugs with and how much, if they feel like doing so. It was no longer just Stevie's business when she included others in her activites.

Stevie might not like it, but it's not her choice to be included - or not - in someone else's book. If there's such a problem with the story and she feels misrepresented, well, that's what slander and libel suits are for.

I agree. It's Ann & Nancy's story as well. However, I believe the part that was most distasteful (looking from Stevie's POV) and gossipy about Ann & Nancy's recounting was that they additionally added for seemingly dramatic effect that they "couldn't keep up with their fellow rocker's voracious appetite for various substances."

[WildHearted]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I have not heard a thing about Stevie being upset about the book.I doubt she feels misrepresented either since for years she has freely shared details of her cocaine consumption .

She talked about it in at the first Q&A for the IYD Doc in New York.

"I went on the road with Ann and Nancy for a week and we just had a ball. We did a lot of drugs, and we had a great time. And you know what? I think they wrote about it, and I wish they hadn't. Because I thought that that was private. I happen to have an amazing respect for Ann Wilson; I think she is one of the best singers in the world, I think she is right there behind Robert Plant. I think that Nancy Wilson is - and I've told her - right there behind Lindsey Buckingham, Waddy Wachtel, Dave Stewart, those amazing guitar players. I love these girls. I would have preferred that they had left me out of the book. 'Cause we weren't best friends our whole life. We spent a little time together and we influenced each other, but I would have preferred they had left me out of their book."

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I have not heard a thing about Stevie being upset about the book.I doubt she feels misrepresented either since for years she has freely shared details of her cocaine consumption .

Stevie was upset. I was in the audience at the "afternoon talk w Stevie" before her IYD screening in the Hamptons and someone in the audience asked her if she knew about Hearts mention of her in their book. Stevie was respectful towards Ann & Nancy but very icy about what she thought was such a personal interaction being included in said book.

Here's the video. http://vimeo.com/50972516 The Ann & Nancy mention starts @53:22 - she rambles on a bit before she touches on her impressions.
"They (Ann & Nancy) will not be a vignette in my book!"-SN