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Old 08-08-2012, 06:23 PM
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This isn't an authorized biography, though.
Oh Ok.So I hope this guy does not trash her.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:40 PM
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Sick of her in what sense? Her music? Her current career? Her utterances? Or just her in general?
All of the above. I'm glad she is making money, but the Rod Stewart thing has put me on the fence. Opening Act: after all the BS she has put her fans through—GAWD! I don't like her decision making, especially not singing her best songs like Italian Summer and In Your Dreams at her concerts. She is a HORRIBLE decision maker. Secret Love and For What's Worth were lazy singles; she just choose them because she could easily sing them in concert.

She made it, but I don't know, her dependence on other people to make it, has left me at a loss. I liked her last album, but I don't know, I just think she is spoiled and very lucky to be considered a great rock n roll star. I"m not sure if it was earned on good decisions.
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Old 08-08-2012, 08:00 PM
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Finally, a major "comprehensive" biography of Stevie Nicks - to say this is L O N G overdue is an understatement! Whether or not Stephen Davis has Stevie's blessing or not is irrelevant (most likely the latter), Stevie Nicks in theory represents a storied rock n roll tale with mucho urban pop speculation & legend that makes the mind boggle. The fact that this has not occurred yet is astonishing, It would seem that the mainstream media has finally deemed Stevie worthy of an overarching legacy biography! Since Stevie has yet to commit to writing her own long anticipated & overdue career spanning story, this seems like the first logical step. And make no mistake about it, this will be a different angle than what Stevie herself would pen - her's would be a prose, fairytale emotional rendering carved out of snow dreams and silver linings. Stephen's will likely be a long dissertation on the facts, contradictions, and the "high price" of rock n rolls glory days and its underworld of drug abuse and the high price of fame in the fast lane. So even if some of it is culled from age-old interviews to new found affirmations in the press that Stevie herself has cultivated in her own timespace to recreate the truth as she saw it at the time, this book will no doubt represent Stevie Nicks as the true enigma she is - an aspirational behind the scenes construction of a truly mysterious and contradictory presence as one of the 1st ladies of rock n roll over the last 40 years.

Who knows! Maybe a movie will be based upon these revelations….

"So you found a queen without a king
Oh yes, and everyone here loved her...no one was wrong
But you're a little bit like her
You're just a little bit like her
...a little bit like Juliet"

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Old 08-08-2012, 08:03 PM
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I wish she'd either authorize a bio or what her own. There are a TON of rock bios or autobios out in the next few months: Rod Stewart, Pete Townsend, Neil Young, Cyndi Lauper, Ann Wilson from Heart, the market is HOT right now--write the damn book Stevie!
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:59 PM
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All of the above. I'm glad she is making money, but the Rod Stewart thing has put me on the fence. Opening Act: after all the BS she has put her fans through—GAWD! I don't like her decision making, especially not singing her best songs like Italian Summer and In Your Dreams at her concerts. She is a HORRIBLE decision maker. Secret Love and For What's Worth were lazy singles; she just choose them because she could easily sing them in concert.

She made it, but I don't know, her dependence on other people to make it, has left me at a loss. I liked her last album, but I don't know, I just think she is spoiled and very lucky to be considered a great rock n roll star. I"m not sure if it was earned on good decisions.
Jondalar...IMO your most recent rant is craziness...Stevie can sing whatever song she wants on tour, she has had a long and legendary career w/out your advice...her "bad decisions" have created an iconic career that has nothing to do with your perfect setlist. I suggest you reread your last comment and remember that youre speaking of a 64yo woman that can still fill a concert hall...She was invited on every big television show last season without your help or advice...has Pat Benatar, Cindy Lauper, or Debra Harry or any other "Diva" had this coverage. She's the Queen of Rock and Roll and doesn't have to sing Italian Summer on a Rod Stewart tour or can release "lazy singles" if she wants...And on a final note...she will tour with fleetwood mac next spring and make MILLIONS and you will still be complaining about the song list.
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All of the above. I'm glad she is making money, but the Rod Stewart thing has put me on the fence. Opening Act: after all the BS she has put her fans through—GAWD! I don't like her decision making, especially not singing her best songs like Italian Summer and In Your Dreams at her concerts. She is a HORRIBLE decision maker. Secret Love and For What's Worth were lazy singles; she just choose them because she could easily sing them in concert.

She made it, but I don't know, her dependence on other people to make it, has left me at a loss. I liked her last album, but I don't know, I just think she is spoiled and very lucky to be considered a great rock n roll star. I"m not sure if it was earned on good decisions.
No artist picks the singles, the record label does that. She sings the songs in concert that she can pull off night after night and feel right to her. She's at a stage in her career where she can do what she wants, how she wants, and when she wants. She didn't last 40 years in the business because of pure luck. The Rod Stewart thing was a management decision based on the money to be made. Artists of her generation make their income from touring, not album sales. She stands to make a nice chunk of change "opening" for Rod, so she'd be a fool to say no.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:09 AM
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No artist picks the singles, the record label does that. She sings the songs in concert that she can pull off night after night and feel right to her. She's at a stage in her career where she can do what she wants, how she wants, and when she wants. She didn't last 40 years in the business because of pure luck. The Rod Stewart thing was a management decision based on the money to be made. Artists of her generation make their income from touring, not album sales. She stands to make a nice chunk of change "opening" for Rod, so she'd be a fool to say no.
oh right, she bares no responsibility, I'm sure that she picked the singles off this album, no one who heard the album first mentioned Secret Love as one of their favorites. It's not just that. I don't know, she just seems like a broken record.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:02 AM
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oh right, she bares no responsibility, I'm sure that she picked the singles off this album, no one who heard the album first mentioned Secret Love as one of their favorites. It's not just that. I don't know, she just seems like a broken record.
I agree, to a point. I see Stevie as a real case of wasted potential in some ways. And the big contradiction between the tortured artist who creates music all the time and the fact that she has released so little new material in the past 20 years and seems to need to cling to eg. Dave Stewart to co-write?
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:38 PM
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Opening Act: after all the BS she has put her fans through—GAWD!
What does this mean? Stevie has never put me through any BS.
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:23 PM
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The more I think about it, the more I fear this too. I would love to read her biography written from someone who knows her very well, lived through it all with her, and is extremely trustworthy. Maybe Sharon or Lori? I don't know. I think about Warren Zevon's ex-wife Crystal and how her book about his life was so well done. Only difference being that he tasked her to write the bio because she was the only one he trusted to honestly tell his story, including not only the good and the bad, but the ugly as well. I don't think Stevie would ever task someone with this, but I fear the only way we will get an unbiased, unglossed, accurate account would be from someone near and dear to her in her inner circle. And in the words of Stevie, I'm sure this will only happen "over her dead body."

I don't think Sharon would EVER write a book about Stevie. She didn't even want to do the Ask Sharon on the Nicksfix. I was so mad about that. I think Lori would write a book, after Stevie's death--sorry, I don't mean to mention. Lori was very friendly on her Ask Lori page, very open with the fans. I can definitely see her writing something. I agree with you, I think if Stevie herself doesn't write a book, the next best thing would be for someone close to her to write it. But Stevie would have to be 90 or something...
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:51 PM
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I agree, to a point. I see Stevie as a real case of wasted potential in some ways. And the big contradiction between the tortured artist who creates music all the time and the fact that she has released so little new material in the past 20 years and seems to need to cling to eg. Dave Stewart to co-write?
what's the contradiction? i think she's the definition of "tortured artist" . like a painter who paints all the time but throws white all over his canvas and starts over... being creative doesn't necessarily mean creating "product". like any artist, there's an innate insecurity and need for approval. just because an artist works on a piece, doesn't mean he or she is EVER satisfied with the result. add to it the pressure of being a "legend", "superstar", etc..... i can understand the time spent tinkering and fiddling with her lyrics, music, production, and so forth.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:28 AM
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what's the contradiction? i think she's the definition of "tortured artist" . like a painter who paints all the time but throws white all over his canvas and starts over... being creative doesn't necessarily mean creating "product". like any artist, there's an innate insecurity and need for approval. just because an artist works on a piece, doesn't mean he or she is EVER satisfied with the result. add to it the pressure of being a "legend", "superstar", etc..... i can understand the time spent tinkering and fiddling with her lyrics, music, production, and so forth.
But her latest effort after ten years is all just lyrics set to someone else's music.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:40 AM
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No one is forcing anyone to follow/listen to Stevie Nicks. If you don't like some of the directions she's taken so much to the point that she's getting on your nerves... it might be time to take a little bit of a break, no?

Personally, I don't feel that Stevie owes me or any other fan ANYTHING. She can do whatever the heck she wants. She can sing what she wants, she can write what she wants. Sure, I have preferences and things I wish she would do, and I certainly mourn some of the lost opportunities that we perceive. But I don't put it on Stevie - it's just life. If I personally don't like something she's done that she is happy with, that's MY problem - not hers. She just needs to keep doing her thing like she's always done. I respect her as an artist enough to be okay with the fact that she does this all for herself - she writes for herself, she sings for herself. The fact that myself and others might enjoy or connect or relate is secondary. And that's okay.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:36 AM
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Hahaha Its like If Stevie went to the direction of country music only.I probably be the one of the few Ledgies that will still be with her.

I will even be still with her if she records a rap record. Gulp.oh my gawd.

Tammy Wynnette did great with KLF. I liked it.

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No one is forcing anyone to follow/listen to Stevie Nicks. If you don't like some of the directions she's taken so much to the point that she's getting on your nerves... it might be time to take a little bit of a break, no?

Personally, I don't feel that Stevie owes me or any other fan ANYTHING. She can do whatever the heck she wants. She can sing what she wants, she can write what she wants. Sure, I have preferences and things I wish she would do, and I certainly mourn some of the lost opportunities that we perceive. But I don't put it on Stevie - it's just life. If I personally don't like something she's done that she is happy with, that's MY problem - not hers. She just needs to keep doing her thing like she's always done. I respect her as an artist enough to be okay with the fact that she does this all for herself - she writes for herself, she sings for herself. The fact that myself and others might enjoy or connect or relate is secondary. And that's okay.
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