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Old 07-19-2012, 09:48 PM
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Oh, Ed.
You know perfectly well that if Stevie sold any kind of meet and greet, you'd be the second person in line. (I, of course, would be the first.)
Haha... the way I see it, once you start selling a "special" experience to a lot of people, it doesn't remain very special anymore. I like it when there is some prohibitively difficult barrier to entry that is not dictated by price alone. It's a crude analogy, but it's like the difference between going to bed with a hot lover vs. a hot prostitute.

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Since they're all managed by Azoff, I see pretty much the same thing happening for Fleetwood Mac as happens for the Eagles (see the column on the right at the below link):

http://vipnation.com/programs/eagles-2012/

You don't meet the band or any of its members, but you can buy:
1) a front row seat for $995;
2) a seat in rows 2-10 for $695; or
3) a seat in rows 11-20 for $495.
The third option doesn't come with the rockin' bag of merch and free buffet that are included in the first two, though.
I think this would be all be pretty pointless since, for all intents and purposes, people are usually allowed to crowd around the stage regardless of their assigned seat.

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yeah see that's the crap i was talking about re "immersive experience" -
  • Pre-show party, including dinner & drinks
  • Exclusive Eagles gift bag
  • Hassle-free entrance to venue
  • Crowd-free merchandise shopping
  • Eagles VIP commemorative laminate
  • On-site VIP host

i have too much trash already in my small house, i don't need to get more just so that selling first 20 rows for so much can look a bit better.

although i guess people are paying anyway so much for these rows to scalpers so i'd rather the money goes to the band, but don't try to tell me you are giving me "VIP experience" . parking on the other hand... that would be ok. and hassle-free exit (that they don''t offer).

i also love how they give you "crowd-free merchandise shopping" - after you drop $1000 you can also have a hassle-free opportunity to drop some more


just checked these Eagles VIP packages and, you don't even know where in front row you are sitting (or rows 2-10). guess you can sit completely on the side in front row for that money? which in FM case, considering various fans prefer different FM members... well let's just say i would not be happy to pay the money and have to spend the evening on SN's side of the stage. especially when for that money i could get 4-5 front row center with m&g tickets for LB solo shows plus gas for travel and staying in nice enough hotels.
Oh, I agree with you... that Eagles VIP package is utter bollocks. By an "immersive experience," I was referring more to a catered reception (with the band in attendance), backstage tours, Q&A sessions, photo/video ops, etc. - not too unlike the experience Mick offered on Unleashed. I don't want some laminated piece of crap that basically says "I am a tool for paying $1000 for this piece of 'laminated plastic crap." And if someone wants to pay all that money to avoid crowds, what the hell are they doing at a concert in the first place? I agree that I would rather spend the money on airfare, nice hotels and good food.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:57 PM
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yeah, if i need to listen to all the songs that i don't like and normally skip on CDs and DVDs , i want to at least be able to look at what Lindsey's doing during that time...

or maybe FM show is really not for me.


EDIT: really sorry guys to bring the above up on SN board, it was just where conversation went. i'm trying to figure out whether to even go to an FM show next year, and if so whether to just go for the bleachers (since i've never seen FM live). and by songs i don't like i don't actually mean SB or WT, i mean Dreams, Rhiannon, Sara, etc - songs that FM will do for sure. Viv and my other roadtrippers always laugh when we are listening to LiB CD in the car and i just have to skip through almost every other song.
Just stand at the stage in front of Lindsey all night. That was where I ended up and it was awesome. That way, even if they're doing one of Stevie's songs, you're seeing it from his perspective. The playing, the harmony. It's all good!
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:05 PM
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I think this would be all be pretty pointless since, for all intents and purposes, people are usually allowed to crowd around the stage regardless of their assigned seat.
True. If Fleetwood Mac were to sell these types of packages, they'd probably start limiting "at the stage" access to the first row only.... giving them wristbands or whatever.

Yikes, hope they don't do that. That would sure suck for the rest of us.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:27 PM
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or maybe FM show is really not for me.
I think you should go once and then you'll know what you don't like. You think you won't like it and you probably won't, but I just don't trust that. I think you have to go to know. Be open to extreme possibilities.

Even songs I dislike have an energy and excitement in concert. Believe me, much as I adored, adored having Christine and Lindsey share a mic, World Turning is not one of my favorite songs and never will be. And listening to Mick yell and spit is the furthest thing in my mind from fun. Yet, I enjoyed World Turning in concert these last 2 tours.

Just go so you can tell Lindsey you didn't like it during his next solo tour and tell him why what he did perform did not make up for the failure to include Walk a Thin Line.

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Old 07-20-2012, 09:38 AM
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well let's just say i would not be happy to pay the money and have to spend the evening on SN's side of the stage. especially when for that money i could get 4-5 front row center with m&g tickets for LB solo shows plus gas for travel and staying in nice enough hotels.
yes had already thought of being stuck over sn stage side! but lets face it 95% of people are there for stevie so i would be willing to bet you could find simeone in frint of lb who would swap!
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:14 AM
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yes had already thought of being stuck over sn stage side! but lets face it 95% of people are there for stevie so i would be willing to bet you could find simeone in frint of lb who would swap!
If 95% of the people were there for Stevie, she wouldn't be playing 4,000 seaters solo.....
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:48 AM
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If 95% of the people were there for Stevie, she wouldn't be playing 4,000 seaters solo.....
Aha! If only all things were so simple and black & white Firstly, I guess you need reminding that Stevie (solo) just recently also headlined 15,000 -17, 000+ capacity amphitheaters (Jones Beach, PNC Bank Arts Center, etc.) in addition to smaller theaters and casinos. Secondly, I guess you have never heard of Fleetwood Mac fans who mostly follow Stevie in the context of Fleetwood Mac - The Band vs Stevie Nicks - The Solo Artist.
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I used to do the backstage meet and greets for Stevie Nicks and they were not cheap. I worked with her when she did the Gold Dust Tour, Crystal Visions Tour, Tom Petty Tour in 2006 and Fleetwood Mac Unleashed Tour in 2009. From what I remember she only did them in selected cities and only a selected few got to see her. Here solo tours where around $1000.00 and they got one item signed and a picture, they were very fast too, but she was very, very polite to everyone and by few I mean like 20 people were allowed. Now when she visited Phoenix, AZ that was a different story, she would have a party and there a lot of people there. She would do the Meet and Greets before the show and have family visits after and we would usually stay late like 2 hours after the concert. Now for Tom Petty tour there was a contest from local radio stations to meet her and there were only 10 that got that. Again Phoenix was different, LA and Gainesville FL were on that list of being different and if you made a donation to the Heart foundation usually $1000.00 or more then you got to go to the party and meet her and the band. No autographs though just pictures and they were taken by a private photographer and sent to you later. Now for the FM Unleashed Tour, there were Meet and Greets just by Mick only, for most of the tour, except again Phoenix, some people got to meet the whole band, that one was by a big donation to the Heart Foundation, again private photographer, very few questions asked and one item signed. I know there were some angry fans at the FM tour cause they paid a big amount for the Mick meet and greet and backstage tour and other stuff and then they could not meet the rest of the group. I remember when I was done doing the backstage stuff we would split the group up for the private group meet and the rest would go have drinks, It was a big commotion and usually ended in arguments with the guests. Doing this now for many years I can defiantly tell you not all musicians are not happy to do the meets, they get asked very stupid, rude and inconsiderate questions. Also these fans that do this are not true fans just people looking to do business prospects and have some bothersome questions for them and just want to drop names, but I have met some really nice true fans that have some good questions or praises for the talent. I have even seen some fans get an earful from some talent or the publicist.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:27 PM
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I used to do the backstage meet and greets for Stevie Nicks and they were not cheap. I worked with her when she did the Gold Dust Tour, Crystal Visions Tour, Tom Petty Tour in 2006 and Fleetwood Mac Unleashed Tour in 2009. From what I remember she only did them in selected cities and only a selected few got to see her. Here solo tours where around $1000.00 and they got one item signed and a picture, they were very fast too, but she was very, very polite to everyone and by few I mean like 20 people were allowed. Now when she visited Phoenix, AZ that was a different story, she would have a party and there a lot of people there. She would do the Meet and Greets before the show and have family visits after and we would usually stay late like 2 hours after the concert. Now for Tom Petty tour there was a contest from local radio stations to meet her and there were only 10 that got that. Again Phoenix was different, LA and Gainesville FL were on that list of being different and if you made a donation to the Heart foundation usually $1000.00 or more then you got to go to the party and meet her and the band. No autographs though just pictures and they were taken by a private photographer and sent to you later. Now for the FM Unleashed Tour, there were Meet and Greets just by Mick only, for most of the tour, except again Phoenix, some people got to meet the whole band, that one was by a big donation to the Heart Foundation, again private photographer, very few questions asked and one item signed. I know there were some angry fans at the FM tour cause they paid a big amount for the Mick meet and greet and backstage tour and other stuff and then they could not meet the rest of the group. I remember when I was done doing the backstage stuff we would split the group up for the private group meet and the rest would go have drinks, It was a big commotion and usually ended in arguments with the guests. Doing this now for many years I can defiantly tell you not all musicians are not happy to do the meets, they get asked very stupid, rude and inconsiderate questions. Also these fans that do this are not true fans just people looking to do business prospects and have some bothersome questions for them and just want to drop names, but I have met some really nice true fans that have some good questions or praises for the talent. I have even seen some fans get an earful from some talent or the publicist.
Having worked in radio or a few years, I can agree that most people who end up back stage rarely get to meet the stars. You might get to chat it up with the back-up band....and that can be very cool....but that's about it. Getting to actually meet Stevie, that usually happens to the people who know the promoter or works for the record company....something like that. I wonder if some guys still have too much to drink and try to put the moves on Stevie?
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:08 AM
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LOL I never heard anyone hit on her, I can tell you one fan asked her a very personal question about Lindsey at one of the tours and she politely tried to not answer it. But this guest was a little persistent and he was immediately escorted out. I know at one of the FM shows a lady tried to give Lindsey a kiss and he quickly backed away. I have a ton of interesting fan stories like one lady that was literally freaking out and crying hysterically because she could not meet Stevie. As we were taking her out she started striping and singing Rhiannon. I went back to the dressing room Stevie looked out and asked what was going on, when I told her she laughed and went back to her dogs. Yes Bubba, some radio stations get a little upset also when they are denied backstage access or time with the talent.
I have worked with other talent and can tell you, yes they do get hit on like the Pussycat Dolls, the guys from NSYNC and New Kids on the Block, and a bunch of other groups and talent, even Ozzy.
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Who remembers the fiasco that was the SYW tour fan "VIP package"? I may still have the "Fire Jonathan Todd" shirt I made and wore to the Cleveland show.

Oh to be young and to stand for something.
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When I saw Jonathan Todd's name mentioned in a recent article, that was the first thing I thought of!

That was only 9 years ago...
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LOL I never heard anyone hit on her, I can tell you one fan asked her a very personal question about Lindsey at one of the tours and she politely tried to not answer it. But this guest was a little persistent and he was immediately escorted out. I know at one of the FM shows a lady tried to give Lindsey a kiss and he quickly backed away. I have a ton of interesting fan stories like one lady that was literally freaking out and crying hysterically because she could not meet Stevie. As we were taking her out she started striping and singing Rhiannon. I went back to the dressing room Stevie looked out and asked what was going on, when I told her she laughed and went back to her dogs. Yes Bubba, some radio stations get a little upset also when they are denied backstage access or time with the talent.
I have worked with other talent and can tell you, yes they do get hit on like the Pussycat Dolls, the guys from NSYNC and New Kids on the Block, and a bunch of other groups and talent, even Ozzy.
Cool story, feel free to share more from backstage, I'd imagine you have lots of interesting and fun things to share Thanks!!
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Who remembers the fiasco that was the SYW tour fan "VIP package"? I may still have the "Fire Jonathan Todd" shirt I made and wore to the Cleveland show.

Oh to be young and to stand for something.
what was this all about?
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LOL I never heard anyone hit on her, I can tell you one fan asked her a very personal question about Lindsey at one of the tours and she politely tried to not answer it. But this guest was a little persistent and he was immediately escorted out. I know at one of the FM shows a lady tried to give Lindsey a kiss and he quickly backed away. I have a ton of interesting fan stories like one lady that was literally freaking out and crying hysterically because she could not meet Stevie. As we were taking her out she started striping and singing Rhiannon. I went back to the dressing room Stevie looked out and asked what was going on, when I told her she laughed and went back to her dogs. Yes Bubba, some radio stations get a little upset also when they are denied backstage access or time with the talent.
I have worked with other talent and can tell you, yes they do get hit on like the Pussycat Dolls, the guys from NSYNC and New Kids on the Block, and a bunch of other groups and talent, even Ozzy.
Wait a minute......a guy was asking Stevie a personal question about LINDSEY(???????).......I think I can guess what team he plays for......I wonder if the question had to do with "size".......I'm sorry but if I were to throw caution into the wind and ask Stevie a really personal question, I could come up with about 20 right off the top of my dirty minded head and none would be about Lindsey...or Mick...or Don...or Joe....
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