Stevie, Obama, and Clooney - Page 5

David · #61 05-28-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

I was rather surprised in Ken's book when he said Lindsey was moaning about Sally Stanford, a former madam, being re-elected as mayor of Sausalito. I would have thought Lindsey'd be too busy concentrating on pot to worry about a local election and to voice disapproval.

I don't recall the book mentioning the Carter/Ford election and the bandmates' reaction to it at all. Michele

Christine and John used to complain about taxes. But the band played a bunch of political fundraisers for Democratic candidates and causes over the years, and individual members played fundraisers for environmental causes (from the Get Tough on Toxics initiative to the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy (anti-development).

michelej1 · #62 05-28-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Christine and John used to complain about taxes. But the band played a bunch of political fundraisers for Democratic candidates and causes over the years, and individual members played fundraisers for environmental causes (from the Get Tough on Toxics initiative to the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy (anti-development).

I remember the BAM tour ended with them collecting funds for, hmmm, Greenpeace I think.

Michele

michelej1 · #63 05-28-2012, 01:05 PM

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Okay, so enlighten me. What parts of it make a political statement clearly supporting a particular side?

Clearly no parts that you hear. I'm not interested in debating Stevie's political views. The song told me a great deal about Stevie's position and the largest point I took away from the duet had nothing to do with her being a soldier's mother or wife, visiting the troops, dispensing ipods, sympathy or compassion. I don't see it as neutral or non-committal. You do. We have a different opinion. There's no need for either of us to enlighten the other.

Michele

Christopher · #64 05-28-2012, 01:50 PM

"In a war of words between worlds
About what is wrong
About what is righteous"

These lyrics are the most telling part of the song regarding Stevies' position/opinion about these wars. Additionally, one can be of the Democratic, Republican or even Libertarian party and be for or against these wars - Party affiliation is not nessicarilay mutually exclusive to ones position on matters of war.
It's total conjecture to infer from Stevie's compassionate support of the troops & "Soldier's Angel" Stevies' political party leanings. Though IMO I think Stevie leans to the left, For the most part I believe Stevie to be party neutral and apolitical in general.

michelej1 · #65 05-28-2012, 02:44 PM

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Additionally, one can be of the Democratic, Republican or even Libertarian party and be for or against these wars .

I would agree with that much and Joe Lieberman is a perfect example.

As for Soldier's Angel, I found it more revealing and political than I'd expected of Stevie. I suppose if I'd paid more attention to her ominous and ominousity descriptions I wouldn't have been so surprised.

Michele

Macfanforever · #66 05-28-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

I remember the BAM tour ended with them collecting funds for, hmmm, Greenpeace I think.

Michele

I do remember that.I remember FM was supporting Greenpeace at on tour.

BombaySapphire3 · #67 05-28-2012, 09:34 PM

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I do remember that.I remember FM was supporting Greenpeace at on tour.

Yep and it was John McVie who was the big Greenpeace advocate in the band.I remember scattered boos in the audience at the BTM SDSU show in ultra-conservative San Diego when the subject was broached.

michelej1 · #68 05-28-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Yep and it was John McVie who was the big Greenpeace advocate in the band.I remember scattered boos in the audience at the BTM SDSU show in ultra-conservative San Diego when the subject was broached.

Well, the way it was presented was a real downer. The audience was still enjoying a concert high and then they stuck a knife in the momentum and brought everything to a screeching halt. When I saw them, even the band seemed uncomfortable standing there in the back, while Stevie made the speech about donations.

Michele

egg cream · #69 05-28-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

Clearly no parts that you hear. I'm not interested in debating Stevie's political views. The song told me a great deal about Stevie's position and the largest point I took away from the duet had nothing to do with her being a soldier's mother or wife, visiting the troops, dispensing ipods, sympathy or compassion. I don't see it as neutral or non-committal. You do. We have a different opinion. There's no need for either of us to enlighten the other.

Michele

Well, I don't actually know if we have different opinions -- that's the whole point. I don't know what you're hearing in the song, and I would like to, because I don't hear a political stance. Is it really that out of bounds to want to ask about someone's interpretation of a Stevie song on a Stevie forum?

michelej1 · #70 05-28-2012, 10:31 PM

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Well, I don't actually know if we have different opinions --

You do know. You see no political stance and I do. That's the difference of opinion. As far as discussing song interpretations on a Stevie board, sure Soldier's Angel has been discussed and dissected at length in this forum, right on down to the mmmmmmm -- which I find to be delicious.

Michele

Macfanforever · #71 05-28-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Yep and it was John McVie who was the big Greenpeace advocate in the band.I remember scattered boos in the audience at the BTM SDSU show in ultra-conservative San Diego when the subject was broached.

Ok thanks.Now I remember.

egg cream · #72 05-28-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1

You do know. You see no political stance and I do. That's the difference of opinion. As far as discussing song interpretations on a Stevie board, sure Soldier's Angel has been discussed and dissected at length in this forum, right on down to the mmmmmmm -- which I find to be delicious.

Michele

Well, we can agree on that.

Macfanforever · #73 05-28-2012, 11:14 PM

Ok. back to the topic.I can't picture Stevie getting into politics like these other entertainers Ronald Reagan, Clint Eastwood,Sonny Bono,Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse Ventura did. The list goes on..I know she won't take any crap from these other politicians with their baloney.I'm glad she don't talk and say crap about the ones in office like other artists did.That hard to do.She must of bite her tongue many times in interviews.