Mick Fleetwood Blames Nicks For Fleetwood Mac Tour Trouble - Page 18

WildHearted · #**256** 03-23-2012, 02:52 PM

^ I mean, obviously we don't know what's been said behind closed doors. I was under the impression that Lindsey was supportive of Stevie taking her time with IYD since she had such a good experience with the whole process and she hadn't enjoyed making a record that much in a long time.. at least, that's what he expressed in all the interviews that I read. And he also threw out mentions of maybe just him and Stevie doing something together re:Buckingham Nicks - I don't think he was all that preoccupied with something having to happen with FM.

Also: AS IF that is the first time Lindsey has lost patience with Stevie.

CADreaming · #**257** 03-23-2012, 02:53 PM

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Wow, first I've heard of this. Is this just Mick's opinion or does Lindsey feel the same way as Mick? Of course Lindsey has his own solo album he is promoting. Is Mick upset with Lindsey, too?

I think that's Micks opinion. Stevie said Lindsey told her not to rush....

Fireflies · #**258** 03-24-2012, 03:58 AM

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Two words: John McVie.

would you mind expanding on this?

SteveMacD · #**259** 03-24-2012, 10:32 AM

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would you mind expanding on this?

Sure. Quite simple, really. NO other bassist has been able to match the tone, feel, or character that John McVie brings to Stevie's music. Period.

MacShadowsBall · #**260** 03-24-2012, 10:56 AM

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Sure. Quite simple, really. NO other bassist has been able to match the tone, feel, or character that John McVie brings to Stevie's music. Period.

I second that.

David · #**261** 03-24-2012, 12:27 PM

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Sure. Quite simple, really. NO other bassist has been able to match the tone, feel, or character that John McVie brings to Stevie's music. Period.

What about Bootsy Collins?

Street_Dreamer · #**262** 03-24-2012, 12:29 PM

I'll just name two people, Bob Brunning and Bob Weston. Who would have thought a year ago that these two would have died in a year? Nobody knows what tomorrow brings. Hell, nobody knows what will happen an hour from now. Stevie and Lindsey both owe all of their success to Fleetwood Mac. If they hadn't joined the band, it's likely they wouldn't have had the success they did have in the band. Certainly they helped contribute to the success of the band, but Fleetwood Mac would have gone on without them, regardless of record sales. I think they both owe it to the band and to us fans to do one last album and tour. If they aren't interested and Mick is truly serious about having one last album/tour for Fleetwood Mac, he should phone up Rick, Billy, Bekka, Bob Welch and/or Dave Mason.

Matt

David · #**263** 03-24-2012, 12:56 PM

I think Fleetwood Mac should bring Carole King into the fold. She has some fans, after all.

Imagine Lindsey Buckingham shaking his tush to "I Feel the Earth Move Under My Feet."

Plus, she could play a little blues piano on "Smackwater Jack."

The NEW lineup:
Mick Fleetwood
John McVie
Lindsey Buckingham
Carole King
Stevie Nicks

Great vocal harmonies, too. A powerhouse force on adult-contemporary radio and PBS pledge break week specials.

Nobody listens to me....

SteveMacD · #**264** 03-24-2012, 02:27 PM

The NEW lineup:
Mick Fleetwood
John McVie
Lindsey Buckingham
Carole King
Cyndi Lauper

I'd be totally down with this line-up.

elle · #**265** 03-24-2012, 02:36 PM

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The NEW lineup:
Mick Fleetwood
John McVie
Lindsey Buckingham
Carole King
Cyndi Lauper

I'd be totally down with this line-up.

me too!

and the 3 songwriters in this lineup have all been on creative streaks and have no problem putting stuff out and touring. #winwin

MacShadowsBall · #**266** 03-24-2012, 02:43 PM

These lineups sound great, but I think I like to see some former Mac members return and sorta "make right" what happened to them during his/her previous tenure. You have to admit that some definitely weren't treated right and got the short end of the stick, if you will.

SteveMacD · #**267** 03-24-2012, 04:23 PM

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These lineups sound great, but I think I like to see some former Mac members return and sorta "make right" what happened to them during his/her previous tenure. You have to admit that some definitely weren't treated right and got the short end of the stick, if you will.

It depends on which former Mac members you're referring to when stating they "got the short end of the stick." Anybody prior to 1975, I'd have to say no (sorry Bob). They either left on their own or were sacked for good reason. Dave Walker MAY have gotten the short end, but he really didn't fit in with the band at that point.

Now, for the folks who came after 1987, I agree they got the short end of the stick. On their own, Billy, Rick, and Bekka didn't have big enough names to overcome the ghosts of Fleetwood Mac's past. Dave Mason had an name and a few hits on his own, but his fan base had long since dwindled, and he hadn't released a record since 1987 (and hadn't released a record between 1979 and 1987). I suspect the best time for Mason to have joined would have been in 1987 as the sole replacement for Lindsey.

Personally, I'd love to see a Mick, John, Bekka, Billy, Rick version of Fleetwood Mac, but its appeal would be limited and I doubt that any of the five would even be interested in that at this point. They could all make more money doing other projects or be involved in projects that would offer them more creative freedom.

In my hypothetical (and David's), I think bringing in people who have big hits that would easily fit into Fleetwood Mac's set and have large followings on their own would help people get over the fact that Stevie and Christine aren't there. I could be wrong.

WildHearted · #**268** 03-24-2012, 07:24 PM

I think you guys are crazy if you think Lindsey is interested in touring with Fleetwood Mac if they bring in a new member in place of Stevie etc, especially after the whole Sheryl debacle.

It's a nice hypothetical thought to have someone like Cyndi or Carole join in, but ultimately it would be a financial risk (and the whole reason for a FM tour is apparently money, so...) and I think it would be an automatic veto anyway.

MikeInNV · #**269** 03-24-2012, 10:00 PM

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I think you guys are crazy if you think Lindsey is interested in touring with Fleetwood Mac if they bring in a new member in place of Stevie etc, especially after the whole Sheryl debacle.

It's a nice hypothetical thought to have someone like Cyndi or Carole join in, but ultimately it would be a financial risk (and the whole reason for a FM tour is apparently money, so...) and I think it would be an automatic veto anyway.

And it is hypothetical, although some people sound pretty serious. I would be absolutely shocked if Fleetwood Mac ever becomes anything besides what it is now. Stevie would never quit; Mick would never fire her; I can't see Lindsey doing it without Stevie and definitely not with another other woman in her place. Although Mick was being overly dramatic in the interview, I think he correctly realizes that it's the four of them or nothing.

SteveMacD · #**270** 03-25-2012, 12:52 AM

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And it is hypothetical, although some people sound pretty serious. I would be absolutely shocked if Fleetwood Mac ever becomes anything besides what it is now. Stevie would never quit; Mick would never fire her; I can't see Lindsey doing it without Stevie and definitely not with another other woman in her place. Although Mick was being overly dramatic in the interview, I think he correctly realizes that it's the four of them or nothing.

NONE of it is SERIOUS! It's all entertainment. In the words of John Lennon, "It's just a band!"

And, it's not at all realistic. Carole King join Fleetwood Mac??? Epitome of a pipe dream. Never gonna happen. What could the band offer her? A big payday? Even if she had never made "Tapestry", she would still be swimming in more royalty money than any songwriter in Fleetwood Mac, probably combined. Career advancement? She's a solid concert draw and still holds the record for most consecutive weeks for an album by a solo female artist to be on the charts. Still, it would totally kick ass for her to be in the band. (Why don't we get Clapton, too, while we're at it?)

Cyndi Lauper would be more realistic (the first song she ever recorded was a dance cover of "You Make Loving Fun" which has surprisingly spot-on vocals), but she can pack venues on her own. Why put up with band politics? Although, given that she recently did a blues album, I could see her actually digging the notion of fronting a band like Fleetwood Mac. (Okay, I just want "Get Like You Used To Be" back in the set-list.)

You're probably right about it being the four of them or nothing, though.

That being said, I'd be happy if Stevie wasn't in the band anymore. Based on her contributions, comments, and actions, it's pretty clear to me that Fleetwood Mac really hasn't been a priority for her in thirty years or so. She said she wouldn't be the one to break up Fleetwood Mac, but she hasn't exactly been the one to make them shine (except when it serves her needs...like "The Dance") or make it easier for the band to exist. How anyone could do "Whole Lotta Trouble" and "At Last" as a solo artist while being in a band with British blues royalty, one of whom was named Melody Maker's Reader's Poll FEMALE VOCALIST OF THE YEAR for the hit she had with AN ETTA JAMES SONG...TWICE, is totally beyond me. (Hell, she could've won over some of the old Peter Green fans.)