A response to promoting IN YOUR DREAMS. Why?

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I don't understand the cynicism around here, regarding Stevie wanting to make money in the latter days of her career. She's paid her dues & she's earned the right to go out and tour for however long people still want to pay to see her. That doesn't negate her as an artist. For a considerably long span of time, she wrote more songs & recorded more music than anyone else in Fleetwood Mac. So now she's "resting on her laurels" more often than not. Big whoop.

She loves her music and she loves to make money. One doesn't cancel out the other.

I have to agree the money part Everybody love to make money.

But.Yes she loves her music.We cant take that away from her.IYD was for us and we loved it.

[tabruns]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Well, promoting the album has done some good. And Stevie knows how to beat a dead horse 6 feet under -- hence, landslide, which is well on its way to becoming Fleetwood Mac's first platinum single. After so many not up to par albums, she believes in this one and wants people to hear it. I think there are going to be surprises on this package too.

Yes, I agree. And anyone thinking that this has nothing to do with the music and is all about money is full of ****. It's obvious Nicks loves this album and wants to keep pushing it. Good for her.

[Macfanforever]

It sad the music industry did not recognize this masterpiece of hers.Over shadowing the new artists with alittle or no talent at all.What would the new talent do if there was no computer autotune in the studio.Its like steroids in sports.

[tabruns]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I don't understand the cynicism around here, regarding Stevie wanting to make money in the latter days of her career. She's paid her dues & she's earned the right to go out and tour for however long people still want to pay to see her. That doesn't negate her as an artist. For a considerably long span of time, she wrote more songs & recorded more music than anyone else in Fleetwood Mac. So now she's "resting on her laurels" more often than not. Big whoop.

She loves her music and she loves to make money. One doesn't cancel out the other.

I don't get it either, especially coming from supposed Stevie Nicks *fans*.

The "IYD was a flop" comments are annoying too because to me it's a real apples-oranges comparison that is taking IYD out of context. You have to consider IYD as it compares to it's time and where Nicks' is in her career:
1. Most artists are selling a lot less, with the very occasional exception of an Adele or a Lady Gaga. Its rare to see an album go Gold for *anyone*.
2. Nicks is a an artist in the twilight of her career, so is she selling albums in the same range as others in a similar boat? In most cases she's outsold them with IYD.
3. IYD hit #6. I mean it was a Top 10 album for chrissakes. When does a top 10 album become a "flop"?

The closest Nicks has come to a real flop as a solo artist is "Street Angel". Yes that album did finally go Gold, but for the era that it was released (when albums still sold) it did poorly and was Nicks' first album to not peak in the top 20.

[tabruns]

Originally Posted by Macfanforever

It sad the music industry did not recognize this masterpiece of hers.Over shadowing the new artists with alittle or no talent at all.What would the new talent do if there was no computer autotune in the studio.Its like steroids in sports.

Well chalk that up to new generations. Even the Rolling Stones get set aside as "old news".

This is why I think IYD was a hit, though. In spite of no support at radio it still hit the Top 10, she still had two AC hit singles, and the album has probably sold somewhere around 170,000 which is higher than what many legacy acts are able to do.

[Macfanforever]

I'm talking about todays standards about flop.Compared to the current artists.Of course .I'm not comdemning this cd is a loss.I'm just upset about it and to see it go to waste.

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by olive

"Someone suggested she's touring to bankroll
the IYD Documentary"

why would she be bankrolling her own projects ?
she couldn't possibly need to tour just to meet her day to day expenses , she must have enough to live out her life comfortably, If Christine can do it on money made during her time in Fleetwood Mac .

Where do you guys get this information?

The filming and editing costs have probably already been paid for, but promotion and physical copies of the documentary are not free. Sure she will recoup that money if sales are good, but what if they aren't? What if the documentary costs more than it makes? Then Stevie is left holding the ball. Can she afford to release something that doesn't break even? Definitely! But if she can mitigate that risk by touring with Rod, then why not? I am not saying that Stevie has to tour in order to release the documentary, but what I do believe is that if Stevie chose not to tour with Rod, then she would not be guaranteed that she could tour this year, especially to such a large audience. She then risks not being able to secure a tour this year, which would leave her financing her own promotion! Why pay to fly to New York to do nothing but promote and get paid nothing for it when you can just do that promotion while you are already there playing a show? All in all, I think the tour with Rod was most likely agreed upon with high consideration of all of her expenses, including her plans for the IYD doc.

[UndoingTheLaces]

I have a crazy radical idea about why Stevie is still touring with In Your Dreams. It may be unpopular but I'm going to state it anyway. She's doing this because...




she wants to.

[mikephxaz]

[QUOTE=UndoingTheLaces;1041968]I have a crazy radical idea about why Stevie is still touring with In Your Dreams. It may be unpopular but I'm going to state it anyway. She's doing this because...




she wants to.

Amen...Amen... Amen good for you!

[Jondalar]

IYD was not a flop. She has only had three solid albums in my opinion, and IYDs was one of them. And to get that type of music and quality from later career is a miracle. She did not release the right singles or embrace the internet quick enough. It's not too late, she can still sale 300.000 if she gets the word out. I just don't think this album will die that quick. Somewhere it will find a home.

[Aussie W/Heart]

[QUOTE=mikephxaz;1041971]

Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

I have a crazy radical idea about why Stevie is still touring with In Your Dreams. It may be unpopular but I'm going to state it anyway. She's doing this because...




she wants to.

Amen...Amen... Amen good for you!

I agree, its that simple.. & another opportunity to promote IYD's CD, & Doc.

Im hoping Stevie will do the the talk show scene as well..

[vivfox]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

I just don't think this album will die that quick. Somewhere it will find a home.

In the used CD bin?

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by vivfox

In the used CD bin?

I just really want more recording from our lady. At least one more album, a sincere one, mostly introspective ballads, with little or no co-writing and with stellar production. Her voice would suit that and there is still (barely) enough fan energy to make it worthwhile.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by vivfox

In the used CD bin?

No that was the Other Side of the Mirror.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

It's true that Stevie has plenty of money and that she never has to work another day for the rest of her life. But she isn't really a major catalogue artist. Her own solo back catalogue is largely out of print or not selling at all. The only reliable source of income she has is from Rumours and a couple of the greatest hits packages. But all of that gets split 3/4/5 ways, so her share is relatively modest. Unlike Christine, Mama got bills. As a working artist, she's got assistants, band members and probably other domestic employees on payroll (or on contract). Sure, she can take a year off, but she still has to pay all of these salaries, which means she can end up in the red for the year after expenses if she doesn't do something. I don't know about everyone else, but I would hate the thought of making a negative income, even if I was super-wealthy, especially if I am near retirement age. Hence, this is why she does at least a handful of shows every year- just to pay the overhead, if nothing else.

She should start promoting Leather and Lace and Edge of Seventeen the way she promotes Landslide. IYD dreams is really the first time I can remember where she has concentrated on her own product for very long at all. She needs to champion other songs off that album. What bothers me about Stevie is that she has songs in her own arsenol that should be Gold by now. But she doesn't talk about them much. Bella Donna and The Wild Heart could become more successful in the Catalog department if she did. Last year, many people mentioned Leather and Lace as one of their favorite songs of hers and it's like she shied away from it. Don't get it. It should be sung at ever concert and treated like Landslide.