Grammy Awards 2012 - Page 5

mezzoforte · #61 02-14-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bluefox4000

Come on. These shows are nothing to get upset over. Cause Chris brown won, Does his album become mandatory listening? No. It's just a silly show.

Mick

By letting him perform at the "biggest stage in music," the Grammys validated him.

Call it a silly show, but that represented a real forgiveness of his actions. I have a major problem with that, actually.

What can a successful performer do that won't be forgiven and forgotten in a matter of a few years?

Nico · #62 02-14-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte

By letting him perform at the "biggest stage in music," the Grammys validated him.

Call it a silly show, but that represented a real forgiveness of his actions. I have a major problem with that, actually.

What can a successful performer do that won't be forgiven and forgotten in a matter of a few years?

On the matter of Chris Brown, though, I can understand your frustration. I don't like Chris Brown or his music, and his actions in real life are despicable.

But I do believe that human being deserve a chance to reform and maybe he has. That doesn't erase what he did. But maybe he learned through his actions and the consequences that befell him. I'm not condoning what he did, but I do believe in forgiveness.

KarmaContestant · #63 02-14-2012, 12:47 PM

Personally I like Jennifer Hudson, but don't care much for her music. I thought her performance was honest and heartfelt, and surely it could not have been easy to maintain her composure - but she did and that's admirable.

A song like that always makes us think of the ones we loved, or have loved - I can't imagine how she did it, not only with the death of one of her own idols the day prior, but also considering the fact that it wasn't that long ago that her own mom and brother were murdered.

mezzoforte · #64 02-14-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nico

On the matter of Chris Brown, though, I can understand your frustration. I don't like Chris Brown or his music, and his actions in real life are despicable.

But I do believe that human being deserve a chance to reform and maybe he has. That doesn't erase what he did. But maybe he learned through his actions and the consequences that befell him. I'm not condoning what he did, but I do believe in forgiveness.

I believe in forgiveness too. Heck, I can appreciate and support Lindsey in spite of what I absolutely believe he did to Carol Ann Harris.

But the GMA incident confirmed, in my mind, that Chris Brown hasn't really learned anything. He's an angry, violent brute, and he's shown only very limited remorse for beating the crap out of his girlfriend.

bluefox4000 · #65 02-14-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nico

On the matter of Chris Brown, though, I can understand your frustration. I don't like Chris Brown or his music, and his actions in real life are despicable.

But I do believe that human being deserve a chance to reform and maybe he has. That doesn't erase what he did. But maybe he learned through his actions and the consequences that befell him. I'm not condoning what he did, but I do believe in forgiveness.

I agree. I don't like what he did one bit. But how do you know for certain that he's not really sorry for what he did? You don't. It's no excuse, but maybe he is. And like or not we ALL have darkness in us. We act on it sometimes. we all have the potential to do deplorable things. We're not proud of it. but we sometimes do things we regret. But there is redemption.

Mick

Nico · #66 02-14-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte

I believe in forgiveness too. Heck, I can appreciate and support Lindsey in spite of what I absolutely believe he did to Carol Ann Harris.

But the GMA incident confirmed, in my mind, that Chris Brown hasn't really learned anything. He's an angry, violent brute, and he's shown only very limited remorse for beating the crap out of his girlfriend.

Well, the best thing to do is simply ignore him. We live in an unfair world where people glorify undeserving pop stars, murderers are free to roam, and some of the most gifted people go almost unnoticed in many cases.

So...

Just let him continue his thing and we can refocus on people worth our time.

As for LB and CAH, believe me...Lindsey was one in a group of MANY drugged-up rock stars who did stupid, careless things. Just because his ex wrote about it doesn't mean he was the only one. And doesn't excuse him either. But I think the man he has become makes a huge impact on any suggestion of change or transformation.