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Old 07-10-2003, 12:52 AM
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I'm crying "Uncle" already, Carne! I figure there has to be at least one token conservative Republican in here to liven things up a tad. I like to stir the pot. I agree about Wal-mart taking over and putting out a lot of mom and pop stores. That is a real shame. But what am I going to do about it? I rarely shop at all. I'm so tight I squeak when I walk. My underwear has more holes in them then Swiss cheese. I still love Fleetwood Mac and can't wait to see Lindsey tear it up with one of his patented guitar solos!!!
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Old 07-10-2003, 08:07 AM
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I find any stereotypical gross lumping of groups together in a hate filled way to be very offensive. For example, I think it wrong and will always stand up against anyone that foolishly says things like all African Americans steal, all Yankees are classless rude idiots, all Californians are weird, all gay men have AIDS, etc. Therefore, I must say I find your similarly foolish inclusion of all people from the South in your diatribe against Walmart very offensive. I was born and reared in the South. I still live in the South. I and many others do not have these "southern values" you so foolishly and non-specifically assert in general. Yet, you carelessly assert them with little care and no regard for the many people I assert are like me, many of whom I know.

Moreover, your gross generalization and your lumping of what you perceive as a steadfast "southern values" are also not supported because there are historically and currently many strictly religious people and staunchly religious sects from all parts of our nation, e.g. New England, Utah, etc. Thus, I do not think the South has now or has ever had a monopoly on this area of thought.

In sum, slam Walmart or any other individual person or entity you deem to have these values all you want. Just please do not include me or any other free thinking American in your gross and unlearned generalization of what you incorrectly perceive as the South.
Oh come on, I didn't mean EVERY southern person!

And yeah, it's not fair to stereotype as there may be some in a certain race group or minority that are different from the norm. However, I also believe there are stereotypes for a reason. I happen to be Polish. Can't you tell?

Please accept my apology though. Me and all my friends happen to be an ignorant, ball-busting bunch and sometimes I forget that that doesn't translate well to internet message boards sometimes.

Actually to be honest if I join any discussion not related to music I'm just going to get myself in trouble because I always seem to make people mad. I'm really not an asshole though.

Once again, sorry.

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Old 07-10-2003, 08:47 AM
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By the way, President Bush just so happens to be doing an outstanding job!
That must be why people are turning on him like milk on a hot summer day. Bush is the worst excuse for a human being I've ever seen in my life. He did a ****ty job as governor of Texas and he's doing an even ****tier job as President.

He is a man who doesn't feel, he's a man who doesn't care about others. Don't you remember when Karla Faye Tucker was going to be executed and the awful things he said about her? She was trying to get her execution commuted and the bastard mocked her publically. How can a man mock someone who is about to lose their life? How can a man in public office do that and say it during press conferences? It was a clear indication of the kind of man he is; it foreshadowed his presidency.

His crap transferred real well when he was APPOINTED president. He killed our men and women, along with innocent Iraqi citizens. People are dying every day because of his hate and lies, all so he can flex his muscle and show that HE is a superpower.

But now his house of cards is falling. The Brits are turning against Tony Blair so fast it'll make your head spin, and he will take Bush with him. Mark my words, HE WILL NOT BE RE-ELECTED. Our economy sucks, it hasn't gotten better one bit, our people are dying, our education system is eroding away, and global opinion about America is that we are scum. With Bush as our Hitler, who can disagree?
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Old 07-10-2003, 08:50 AM
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Please accept my apology though. Me and all my friends happen to be an ignorant, ball-busting bunch and sometimes I forget that that doesn't translate well to internet message boards sometimes.


I was just on my soapbox making a point of order!

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Old 07-10-2003, 09:24 AM
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Right on, Dissention. I for one can't wait to see the stupid son of an itch go down in flames (no offense to Bahr)!
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Old 07-10-2003, 09:29 AM
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His crap transferred real well when he was APPOINTED president. He killed our men and women, along with innocent Iraqi citizens. People are dying every day because of his hate and lies, all so he can flex his muscle and show that HE is a superpower.
Wow, apparently you didn't finish watching election coverage.

If you're going to bash Bush, you might as well include all the other presidents who declared a war in which US soldiers and civilians of opposing countries were killed. Any decision Bush makes has to go through a lot of people before it's solidified.

As far as Wal-Mart goes, I don't buy music there, but I don't see the problem in getting the cheapest version of generic products there. I definitely appreciate my $1.50 sugarfree double-stick popsicles, $0.79 cordial cherries, and $0.57 packing boxes.
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Old 07-10-2003, 10:13 AM
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As far as Wal-Mart goes, I don't buy music there, but I don't see the problem in getting the cheapest version of generic products there. I definitely appreciate my $1.50 sugarfree double-stick popsicles, $0.79 cordial cherries, and $0.57 packing boxes.
It's all about me. That's what Wal-mart and other blood-sucking corporations are preying on--our basest instincts. Next time you pick up those much-needed cordial cherries for 79 cents, take a second to ponder whether the poor sucker who stocked the shelf would even be able to afford them. Chances are he/she is barely getting by on the 6.50/hour Wal-mart salary.

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Old 07-10-2003, 10:53 AM
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...........and while you're there getting those cordial cherries so "cheap" how much other needless stuff are you suckered into buying because you "saved" so much?

Look, I'm not attacking you personally, so don't get mad, but that's the way they suck customers in. Sure they offer a few things at low prices, then they get you with all the "might as wells" and add-on sales.

I save much more money, time, effort, and headache now that I don't shop there.

Carne is right about the wages and the employees. That's why they are all only part-time (they don't have to give them any benefits) and a large number of employees are stealing anything they can get away with.

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Old 07-10-2003, 01:31 PM
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Right on, Dissention. I for one can't wait to see the stupid son of an itch go down in flames (no offense to Bahr)!
LOL! Thanks to you, Carne, I now know that there is at least one other person out there who has resisted the brainwashing from the Bush administration! They are few and far between.
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Old 07-10-2003, 02:21 PM
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wal-mart sucks. I never buy music there and only go there if Ill die otherwise. Their hypocritical standpoints like selling guns but not birth control make me sick. Then again, I guess from their POV selling guns IS birth control.

As for Dubuya, I wont even go there. He's a recovering alcholoic and cocaine user. As far as our economy goes... well the Federal Reserve was enacted by an ILLEGAL vote, "claiming" the necessary radification was legal and legit - however upon further examination of legislation records, was found only 2 states voted "yes" to create said Reserve. When the US abandoned the Gold Standard a LONG time ago, Jefferson said a very prophetic statement that our nation would toil in a debt-laden society if we did just that. A nation poor and with poor morals. Seems like just what happend and gool ol TJeff was correct. Bottom line, Dubuya sucks, but the downside with the economy was started BEFORE his time (yet has only worsened). And lets not GO there with his so-called "environmental" (destruction??)....

http://www.fortune.com/fortune/caree...462970,00.html

(edit) Just found this link re: WM & their female employees.
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Old 07-10-2003, 02:31 PM
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Go to google.com and search for weapons of mass destruction. Then click on I'm feeling lucky and watch what happens=:-)
This is sooooooo funny, thanks Vianna.

As a rule, I avoid posting political opinions but I think this administration is scary enough to warrant comment. For some interesting reading, check out www.bushwatch.com.

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Old 07-10-2003, 02:54 PM
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jesus louises! had i known what i was starting, i never would have shared my Wal Mart opinion....

or maybe it's good healthy arguing. but we are getting away from the music - once again.

since we are - i have to point out to Tusky57: what's wrong with guns? a lot.
take a walk through south central LA or Harlem, or any other inner-city ghetto neighborhood and you'll see what's wrong with guns on every street corner.

your attitude is precisely what is wrong with our current bastard of a president. he has absolutely no interest in what goes on in American cities, no intellectual curiosity about anything - and as long as he's helping to pad the pockets of corporate America that fund the GOP, he doesn't give a **** about joblessness or the wretched economy. He is by far the worst president we have had in my lifetime. Short-sighted businessmen have no business running this country.
If you want to see Lindsey and Stevie throw up on stage, share your politics with them Tusky57.

And then there's the Weapons of Mass Deception.....I can't decide what's more depressing - George W. Bush or the uneducated masses who eat up every word he spoon-feeds!
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:19 PM
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I feel so passionatly against our president that I can't even discuss things without just getting ANGRY...I don't like him or what he stands for or what he CLAIMS to stands for...I think people like him are very dangerous for human-kind...and for our planet as a whole...
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Old 07-10-2003, 03:24 PM
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That must be why people are turning on him like milk on a hot summer day. Bush is the worst excuse for a human being I've ever seen in my life. He did a ****ty job as governor of Texas and he's doing an even ****tier job as President.
You are my f*cking HERO!!

He's awful! Look at what him and his cronies did to anyone who spoke out against the war? They were labeled un-american and traitors. For a man who's supposed to be leading the free world he sure didn't do anything to discourage such remarks.

When Clinton was president it was open season on him to say whatever you wanted. Fine, that's the way it should be, but suddenly a man made president by his family's money and connections you can't disagree with or challange him?

Every day people are STILL dying in Iraq and are we any safer than we were a few months ago? No, and no WMD were found either, because there were none!

The tax break he gave was for the rich. None of us here will see the benefits of it as hardly anyone here makes that kind of money. Rather then spending billions on Iraq the money would have done better spending it here at home.

AND to the real kicker is, in his tax CUTS, he's cut vetrans aid. He sent all this military people over there and he's cutting their aid for later in life. What a wonderfull guy he is! And the sad part is those men and women are supporting it!
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And then there's the Weapons of Mass Deception.....I can't decide what's more depressing - George W. Bush or the uneducated masses who eat up every word he spoon-feeds!
I can not agree more! George W. Bush is an idiot, pure and simple.

While I'm here, I'll throw in my two cents on Wal-Mart too...I'm sure you're thrilled I love Wal-Mart. I certainly don't agree with their stance on guns and censorship, and I don't buy guns (there or anywhere else) or music there. But their prices on groceries and other household necessities (diapers, school supplies, shoes, etc.) are waaay lower than at any of the three grocery stores in my town, and that is why I shop there. I'm not so stupid that I'm suckered into buying things I don't need just because they're on display with a pretty sign, and I really do save money by shopping there. With two small children to feed and clothe, saving money any way I can is a priority for me and my family. I'd love to be able to be rich enough to be high and mighty and poo-poo all the poor slobs who shop at Wal-Mart, but I'm not, and I'm not going to apologize for it.

Oh, and while this certainly falls into the TMI category, Wal-Mart does sell birth control pills as well as condoms.

ANYWAY.....uh, FM rules

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