"Love Changes" ~ First TISL Single???

mikebise · #1 12-10-2011, 08:54 PM

I just read that "Love Changes" was shceduled as the first single form TISL in Early 2000. Anyone else heard of this ?

MikeInNV · #2 12-10-2011, 10:19 PM

News to me. Where did you read it?

Johnny Stew · #3 12-10-2011, 10:25 PM

Yeah, I remember that. Luke A., who used to post here, shared the news. Luke had contacts at Warner Bros and apparently execs were quite keen on "Love Changes" -- which, of course, was produced by David Kahne, who was their vice president of A&R at the time.

markolas · #4 12-10-2011, 10:25 PM

No, but I think we just read it in the same place.

It's not one of my favorites from TISL, I must say. Every Day was a much better choice, even though I don't give a sht about singles.

BombaySapphire3 · #5 12-11-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas

. Every Day was a much better choice, even though I don't give a sht about singles.

Maybe Stevie shouldn't really either since she hasn't had a hit one in over 22 years?

johnnystorms · #6 12-11-2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Maybe Stevie shouldn't really either since she hasn't had a hit one in over 22 years?

ouch!!!!!!

StevieNicksfann · #7 12-11-2011, 03:14 AM

Yep I remember reading early press releases that stated Love Changes would be the first single. Don't know why they scrapped it. I love that song

Christopher · #8 12-11-2011, 07:46 PM

I've said it before & I'll say it again. I strongly believed "Love Changes" should've been the 1st single from TISL. Don't confuse that with it being my favorite song or best song from TISL, but while the rest of the album had a classic Stevie sound meets modern day renaissance, LC was the freshest sounding production from Stevie in a long time!

Thanks in part to David Kahne direction & production, LC was filled with funky & soulful filled verses and lots of attitude driven lyrics & vocals by Stevie, with a supple, bright & crisp mix, which would have been a perfect sound to reintroduce Stevie to radio & gain new listeners, esp. in the spring/summer of 2001. Plus, *bonus* - it was a Stevie penned song.

"Everyday" was just an ok song that could've been sung by anyone, in addition Stevie sang it in her lower register, which turns some casual listeners off, not to mention it obviously being a cover. It feels like Stevie threw Shanks a bone by covering this song, since he came in and finished, essentially rescuing, the remaining TISL sessions.

Christopher · #9 12-11-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Maybe Stevie shouldn't really either since she hasn't had a hit one in over 22 years?

Back in 2001, Stevie still had a shot, probably her last shot at a modest or even Top 40 hit single success.
In 2011, I agree, and so it seems did Stevie & her crew, as IYD does not pander to current chart sensibilities, or trends. IYD is an album that could have been released in the 80's, 90's or 2000's. It's timeless! And Stevie put her heart & soul into it w/o regard to being or sounding current. She made the record she wanted to make. One that she and her fan's have long longed for - Great to good, solidly written songs, that do not chase any trends or worry about being hip.

TISL was definitely more calculated & sometimes forced effort on Stevie's & Warners part to try & reintroduce the hit making days of Stevie Nicks of the 80's.

drzubritsky · #10 12-11-2011, 09:20 PM

I've gone back and forth on the commercial potential of "Love Changes" over the years. On the one hand, it does have a very catchy chorus and the lyrics are pretty well-crafted. However, something about her vocal misses the mark, particularly on the chorus. I suspect the song is in too low of a key, requiring her to drift toward her granny voice on the chorus. Another issue is that it sounds a lot like a warmed-over 80s track. I'm not sure how well that 80s sound would have fared on the radio in 2001.

Nonetheless, it is a good song...just not quite reaching its full potential.

KarmaContestant · #11 12-11-2011, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Maybe Stevie shouldn't really either since she hasn't had a hit one in over 22 years?

I'd say Planets of the Universe reaching number one on the dance charts counts as a hit single.

Also, Secret Love charted:
US Billboard Adult Contemporary Singles - #20
US Billboard Triple A Singles - #25

I'd say that's a hit, too. Maybe not of the same caliber as many current artists, but a top 20 hit is still very respectable for her, given the ageism that is prevalent in radio today.

Phil · #12 12-12-2011, 01:56 AM

I also dig "Love Changes" and always thought it would have made a fine single. I didn't realise it was being considered as the first single, way back in early 2000, but certainly wish those plans had come to fruition. Waiting for the album, from the initial recording sessions in December 1998 to it's eventual release in May 2001, was absolute agony for me! A taster at the beginning of 2000 would have been most gratefully received and perhaps would have paved the way for a much earlier release for the album (we know it was finished by the end of September 2000 so it could have easily been issued in time for Christmas that year).

PolishStevieFan · #13 12-12-2011, 03:45 AM

As much as I like this song I don't think it would have been good choice as the album's first single. "Everyday" wasn't either. I think they should have released "Trouble In Shangri La", a title track, as a first single. It was a strong song lyrically and melodically and should have made some impact. "Everyday" was too much in Adult Contemporary vein. As the album was heralded as a comeback for a Queen of Rock, they should have chosen more "rockish" song to start promotion.

Artemis · #14 12-12-2011, 03:47 AM

Agreed with those who think Love Changes should have been the lead single. It still sounds fresh to this day, imo. And, whilst I think TISL is the strongest song on the album, it's simply too long for a single release, and they would have had to butcher it. Ditto Fall From Grace.

Sorcerer and Planets were great singles, if only for the amazing video we got for Sorcerer.

Dodfather · #15 12-12-2011, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Christopher

"Everyday" was just an ok song that could've been sung by anyone, in addition Stevie sang it in her lower register, which turns some casual listeners off, not to mention it obviously being a cover. It feels like Stevie threw Shanks a bone by covering this song, since he came in and finished, essentially rescuing, the remaining TISL sessions.

I'd much have preferred Love Changes. Every Day is pretty dull. Who recorded it first? I know it's a John Shanks song in that he wrote/produced it - did he record it too?