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Old 09-07-2011, 01:33 PM
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YOU LIVE IN HALIFAX!?? NO WAY!!
I live in Shipley
Hey, thats great - i've only just inadvertently backtracked to your reply. Doesn't look like she will be hitting our shores this tour..yet again!!!




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Old 09-08-2011, 09:15 AM
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This really irks me.

The UK was second to the US in terms of the highest position "In Your Dreams" reached and she probably still won't tour here. It just annoys me that she's touring the US again and Australia this year and the UK is seemingly being ignored yet again. I'm still surprised she didn't manage to squeeze in a couple of dates while she was over here for a month in the summer, it's not like she'd have great difficulty selling out here. She doesn't even have to play the O2, she could play something a little smaller like the Royal Festival Hall or Shepherds Bush Empire. Fingers crossed for some dates next year but I have a feeling the hyde park show is all we're getting in the UK.

I recall something about Stevie using the success of the album, public reaction and interest in her signing in London as to wether some dates here would be worth it or not. I would say all of those factors were a success and it probably still won't make a difference in her decision. Oh well.
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Old 09-08-2011, 09:20 AM
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This really irks me.

The UK was second to the US in terms of the highest position "In Your Dreams" reached and she probably still won't tour here. It just annoys me that she's touring the US again and Australia this year and the UK is seemingly being ignored yet again. I'm still surprised she didn't manage to squeeze in a couple of dates while she was over here for a month in the summer, it's not like she'd have great difficulty selling out here. She doesn't even have to play the O2, she could play something a little smaller like the Royal Festival Hall or Shepherds Bush Empire. Fingers crossed for some dates next year but I have a feeling the hyde park show is all we're getting in the UK.

I recall something about Stevie using the success of the album, public reaction and interest in her signing in London as to wether some dates here would be worth it or not. I would say all of those factors were a success and it probably still won't make a difference in her decision. Oh well.

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Old 09-08-2011, 09:29 AM
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OH WELL.I didn't believe there was much of a chance anyway.But it's still extremely annoying considering the Australian tour is quite broad.
Moving along..Lindsey is playing here on December 15th,i'll just go see him.

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Old 09-08-2011, 09:31 AM
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I recall something about Stevie using the success of the album, public reaction and interest in her signing in London as to wether some dates here would be worth it or not. I would say all of those factors were a success and it probably still won't make a difference in her decision. Oh well.
I don't really get it either. LB has less pull than Stevie and, to take my city of Edinburgh as an example, he's playing the Usher Hall here in December. It has a capacity of just under 3,000 but is a stylish venue that has seen the likes of James Taylor in recent times. I understand that Stevie likes to travel well, and that her band and entourage are on the larger size, but does everything have to come down to the almighty dollar? Couldn't break-even be enough for the experience of playing for fans who haven't seen her solo in more than two decades?

I think the issue of whether it's her 'decision' is interesting. I suspect it's more her decision than she thinks, although she'd never go without Waddy or the girls, so I guess that's in there somewhere too.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:15 AM
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I don't really get it either. LB has less pull than Stevie and, to take my city of Edinburgh as an example, he's playing the Usher Hall here in December. It has a capacity of just under 3,000 but is a stylish venue that has seen the likes of James Taylor in recent times. I understand that Stevie likes to travel well, and that her band and entourage are on the larger size, but does everything have to come down to the almighty dollar? Couldn't break-even be enough for the experience of playing for fans who haven't seen her solo in more than two decades?

I think the issue of whether it's her 'decision' is interesting. I suspect it's more her decision than she thinks, although she'd never go without Waddy or the girls, so I guess that's in there somewhere too.
Well, it really does boil down to the almighty dollar; touring abroad for Americans is particularly expensive due to double taxation. And when you multiply that by a couple dozen musicians and crew, it becomes a money-losing proposition very, very quickly. Ultimately it boils down to the promoters and their willingness to make the gamble that Stevie will be a draw and will be profitable for them since obviously Stevie is willing to go international, e.g., Australia. And it's not like just one promoter can guarantee a string of shows across the continent; I suspect it involves multiple independent promoters. And without a critical mass of guarantees, it probably makes no sense for her to bring her show to Europe. Lindsey is a different situation because his solo payday and his overhead are much lower. I suppose Lindsey is willing to work for peanuts and/or lose money in exchange for the personal fulfillment of bringing his solo show abroad. And, to be fair, his show is well suited for clubs and small theaters, as opposed to Stevie's larger, arena-scale show. Sure, I'll bet Stevie is willing to do a club show here and there (like she does in the States), but I think she would wrinkle her nose at a 30-city tour of Europe playing clubs.
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The whole cost excuse really annoys me - how can it be less expensive to take her whole band to Australia - the other side of the world - than a hop across the Atlantic here?!? I love Stevie to bits, but her treatment of her UK/ European fans is shocking sometimes.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:10 PM
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The whole cost excuse really annoys me - how can it be less expensive to take her whole band to Australia - the other side of the world - than a hop across the Atlantic here?!? I love Stevie to bits, but her treatment of her UK/ European fans is shocking sometimes.
Has nothing to do with cost; the Oz promoter is giving her a HUGE guarantee and footing the bill, expense-wise. No non-Aussie band tours Down Under unless there is
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:21 PM
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Has nothing to do with cost; the Oz promoter is giving her a HUGE guarantee and footing the bill, expense-wise. No non-Aussie band tours Down Under unless there is
no money risk.
It's absolutely about cost. Stevie even said so in an interview whilst she was over here for HRC. I'll try and dig the interview out.
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Since I was in the shipping biz.I'm wondering about the costs of shipping of her band equipment over the pond.Or she rents amp's.lights from locals.Waddy and the band just pack their instruments and go on the plane.Anyway I hope she will pop up for you guys in the UK.
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Since I was in the shipping biz.I'm wondering about the costs of shipping of her band equipment over the pond.Or she rents amp's.lights from locals.Waddy and the band just pack their instruments and go on the plane.Anyway I hope she will pop up for you guys in the UK.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:46 AM
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Is it not about time that fans views are taken into consideration and pressure is placed with the appropriate management contacts that we demand that Stevie's fans in the UK are looked after. Lets get Stevie back for some proper shows!
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And me ?

I'll bring chocolate HobNobs and I only ever buy those on special occasions
lol. why is it that candy in the UK sounds like something out of a fairy tale?! i gotta say, it's probably the one thing i hate about being american, our candy is nowhere near as whimsically named as i think they are in other countries!
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It's absolutely about cost. Stevie even said so in an interview whilst she was over here for HRC. I'll try and dig the interview out.
True - and it's that which really irks me most. So much for it being about the fans. Stevie could affored to tour other places so that her fans could see her yet she won't because she won't swallow the cost.
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True - and it's that which really irks me most. So much for it being about the fans. Stevie could affored to tour other places so that her fans could see her yet she won't because she won't swallow the cost.
Then I suppose you are okay with working your normal full time job but taking a big paycut, or worse, owing your employers money. The reason she goes to "other places" is because they make it worth her while. She is certainly not a humanitarian mission to Australia; she is evidently making serious bank there and is playing large theatres and stadiums there. Perhaps your ire should be directed more at your local tour promoters than at Stevie? And what about all of the apathetic residents of Europe who didn't exactly run out and buy Stevie's newest album? If nobody is buying her music, chances are that they won't pay money to see her live in concert. Promoters realize this.
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